Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

[google]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8979091814042276083[/google]
I know how much everyone loves Bill but at least I balanced it with a hottie .
http://stopchildexecutions.com/
Xbone Stormsurgezz
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6894|Chicago, IL
Iran?  doing something immoral and sacreligious?

Naah, that couldn't posibly happen in such a lovely country
(and neither can haircuts.......)
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA
Don't you know that Iran is allowed to do human rights violations.  If the American Feminist movement isn't appalled that this is happening, or women are treated like cattle, then it must be ok.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7209

32 Children on death row?  Must be Jews.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7009

Harmor wrote:

Don't you know that Iran is allowed to do human rights violations.
Actually, it's not a human rights violation, rather it's a violation of a UN convention on the rights a child.  There are only two countries who haven't signed said convention: Somalia, which doesn't have a government to sign, and the US.

Harmor wrote:

If the American Feminist movement isn't appalled that this is happening, or women are treated like cattle, then it must be ok.
Iran has more female legislators than the US.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7209

Bubbalo wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Don't you know that Iran is allowed to do human rights violations.
Actually, it's not a human rights violation, rather it's a violation of a UN convention on the rights a child.  There are only two countries who haven't signed said convention: Somalia, which doesn't have a government to sign, and the US.

Harmor wrote:

If the American Feminist movement isn't appalled that this is happening, or women are treated like cattle, then it must be ok.
Iran has more female legislators than the US.
Ya bubbs, women should move to iran to feel truly free.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Don't you know that Iran is allowed to do human rights violations.
Actually, it's not a human rights violation, rather it's a violation of a UN convention on the rights a child.  There are only two countries who haven't signed said convention: Somalia, which doesn't have a government to sign, and the US.
So a country like Iran, like signed the document, has MORE moral authority than the U.S. who didn't; is that what you're saying Lizzard?
Because that would show a consistancy of thought with you. You claim your thread about the 9/11 hijackers being heroes  was a joke ( but posted in the debate and SERIOUS talk section ) but show again here a general sympathy with, and advocacy for terrorist.
Which could logically lead one to ask, Bubbalo, are you a terrorist?

Bubbalo wrote:

Iran has more female legislators than the US.
But can they wear what they want?

Last edited by ATG (2007-05-11 22:26:05)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7009

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ya bubbs, women should move to iran to feel truly free.
Because the US is so great, sexism isn't at all rampant in the corporate world.  There are so few females in upper management because they just aren't suited to it.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7209

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ya bubbs, women should move to iran to feel truly free.
Because the US is so great, sexism isn't at all rampant in the corporate world.  There are so few females in upper management because they just aren't suited to it.
You seem to forget only women can have kids.

Please go on and say iran is just as or more tolerant of a woman's rights.  It is good fun to watch.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-05-11 22:27:51)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ya bubbs, women should move to iran to feel truly free.
Because the US is so great, sexism isn't at all rampant in the corporate world.  There are so few females in upper management because they just aren't suited to it.
“Because women now hold managerial positions at most American companies, women’s advancement remains a problem that many don’t recognize as one,” said Dr. Betty Spence, President of NAFE. “In organizations where women are truly succeeding-where we find women running divisions and country operations-they have implemented tough measures, like having the board review succession planning and compensation for gender equity, and holding managers accountable with their own advancement and pay. These are policies with teeth, and I look forward to the day when all companies follow the lead of the NAFE Top 30.”

Trends among the NAFE Top 30 include:

    * 93% of Top 30 companies conduct employee surveys to determine their satisfaction with advancement opportunities.
    * 90% of Top 30 companies review compensation data for gender equity.
    * 87% of Top 30 companies adjusted policies and practices as a result of survey responses.
    * 73% of Top 30 companies have formal compensation policies that reward managers who help women advance.
    * 70% of Top 30 companies hold managers individually accountable for helping the company meet its goals regarding women’s advancement.

NAFE looked beyond corporate programs and policies, purportedly dedicated to advancing women, to their results-examining the number of women in the company overall, in senior management, and on its board of directors. NAFE also scrutinized how women fared among the company’s 5 top earners: among the Top 30 Companies, 18.7 percent of top earners are women, compared to under 6 percent in the Fortune 500.

All companies excelled in these areas, particularly the top 10: Bon Secours Richmond Health Service; Colgate-Palmolive Company; Federated Department Stores, Inc; General Mills; IBM Corporation; Inova Health System; Marriott International, Inc.; Merck & Co., Inc., Principal Financial Group and Yale-New Haven Hospital.

All three non-profits on the list-Bon Secours Richmond Health Service, Inova Health Systems and Yale New Haven Hospital-scored strongly in achieving a measure of gender pay equity. This year marked the first time NAFE opened the application process to non-profits. For-profit companies DuPont and General Mills also stood-out in pay parity.

Scholastic, Hewlett-Packard, Knight Ridder and Yale New Haven Hospital were among the companies that excelled in the representation of women in top-tier positions relative to the number of women employees overall. At Yale New Haven Hospital, women fill 100 percent of the top-tier positions reporting to the CEO.

NAFE also paid attention to the number of women on corporate boards. The New York Times Company stood out with women representing 40 percent of its board. Colgate-Palmolive, General Mills and Texas Instruments also have board ratios as high as one-third female.

“These benchmarks are absolutely crucial,” said Spence. “Given the recent high-profile gender bias lawsuits, the figures reported by our Top 30 Companies are refreshing and encouraging.”

The NAFE Top 30 Companies for Executive Women (in alphabetical order):

Aetna Inc. (Hartford, CT)
Allstate Insurance Company (Northbrook, IL)
American Express Company (New York, NY)
Bon Secours Richmond Health Service (Richmond, VA)
Bristol-Myers Squibb Company (New York, NY)
Colgate-Palmolive Company (New York, NY)
DuPont (Wilmington, DE)
Federated Department Stores, Inc (Cincinnati, OH)
Gannett Co., Inc. (McLean, VA)
Gap Inc. (San Francisco, CA)
General Mills (Minneapolis, MN)
Hewlett-Packard Company (Palo Alto, CA)
IBM Corporation (Armonk, NY)
Inova Health System (Falls Church, VA)
Knight Ridder (San Jose, CA)
Liz Claiborne, Inc. (North Bergen, NJ)
Marriott International, Inc. (Washington, DC)
Merck & Co., Inc. (Whitehouse Station, NJ)
MetLife, Inc. (Long Island City, NY)
New York Life Insurance Company (New York, NY)
Principal Financial Group (Des Moines, IA)
Sallie Mae (Reston, VA)
Scholastic (New York, NY)
Texas Instruments Incorporated (Dallas, TX)
The New York Times Company (New York, NY)
The Phoenix Companies, Inc. (Hartford, CT)
The Procter & Gamble Company (Cincinnati, OH)
WellPoint, Inc (Indianapolis, IN)
Xerox Corporation (Stamford, CT)
Yale-New Haven Hospital (New Haven, CT)

Methodology: To be named to the NAFE Top 30 Companies for Executive Women, companies with a minimum of two women on the board completed a comprehensive application that focused on the number of women in senior ranks (compared to men and to the company population), including questions about the programs and policies which support women's advancement.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7009
You do realise you just proved my point, ATG?  Even amongst the top 30 companies for women, less than a fifth of the tope earners are women.

ATG wrote:

So a country like Iran, like signed the document, has MORE moral authority than the U.S. who didn't; is that what you're saying Lizzard?
Where did I say that?  I was pointing out to a US poster that he was criticising Iran for failing to abide by an agreement that the US won't abide by either.

ATG wrote:

Because that would show a consistancy of thought with you. You claim your thread about the 9/11 hijackers being heroes  was a joke
No, I said it was sarcastic.

ATG wrote:

but show again here a general sympathy with, and advocacy for terrorist.
The people I'm talking about are terrorists how, exactly?

ATG wrote:

Which could logically lead one to ask, Bubbalo, are you a terrorist?
Based on your definition, probably.  But then, based on you definition Ghandi probably is.

ATG wrote:

But can they wear what they want?
Because the definition of freedom isn't whether you can participate in public life but what you can wear, of course.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7009

usmarine2005 wrote:

You seem to forget only women can have kids.
Which is relevant why?

usmarine2005 wrote:

Please go on and say iran is just as or more tolerant of a woman's rights.
Where did I say that?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:

You do realise you just proved my point, ATG?  Even amongst the top 30 companies for women, less than a fifth of the tope earners are women.
There are top earners amongst the elite, you have the nescience to compare the freedoms of American women to Iranian women, lol.

ATG wrote:

So a country like Iran, like signed the document, has MORE moral authority than the U.S. who didn't; is that what you're saying Lizzard?

Bubbalo wrote:

Where did I say that?  I was pointing out to a US poster that he was criticising Iran for failing to abide by an agreement that the US won't abide by either.
You advocate that Iran is morally superior  to America, one has to assume that that is what you meant.

ATG wrote:

Because that would show a consistancy of thought with you. You claim your thread about the 9/11 hijackers being heroes  was a joke

Bubbalo wrote:

No, I said it was sarcastic.
Debate and serious talk

This is maybe what you were looking for.

see this also

ATG wrote:

but show again here a general sympathy with, and advocacy for terrorist.

Bubbalo wrote:

The people I'm talking about are terrorists how, exactly?
Are you saying the Iranian government is not a terrorist regime/ What about the recent booted islamic Courts assholes in Somalia; terrorist or freedom fighters?

ATG wrote:

Which could logically lead one to ask, Bubbalo, are you a terrorist?

Bubbalo wrote:

Based on your definition, probably.  But then, based on you definition Ghandi probably is.
1) it's your, and Ghandi was a pussy, not a terrorist.

ATG wrote:

But can they wear what they want?

Bubbalo wrote:

Because the definition of freedom isn't whether you can participate in public life but what you can wear, of course.
What restrictions in American society for  participating in public life are there on woman exactly.for crying out fucking loud bubs?
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7164
That woman is hot and Bubbaloo do you do anything but try to agitate? You're a bore...
I know your intelligent... just have an opinion instead of taking the opposite side of everyone else...
Love is the answer
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6938|Menlo Park, CA

usmarine2005 wrote:

32 Children on death row?  Must be Jews.
Or somehow a conspiracy by Jews/Americans to kill Iranian kids. . . .their is no way a peace loving religion like Islam would put children on death row. . . . . . .lol
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7094|Peoria
HOLY SHIT! She is a babe, we have got to get over to that fucking country right now and get those women out from under those fucking veils. Cause seriously, schwing!


EDIT: Oh, yeah, and its a terrible thing about the kids being killed or whatever.

Last edited by Elamdri (2007-05-12 00:02:25)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6853|North Carolina
LOL @ Elamdri.

Yes, Fox definitely knows how to get the attention of a predominantly male audience.

Whatever the case, I personally don't have a problem with executing a teenager that has committed a murder in cold blood, but it would be interesting to find out the stories of each of these "children."

Perhaps, they should have used the word "minor" instead of children.  There's a big difference between executing a 17 year old and a 10 year old.
Ottomania
Troll has returned.
+62|6969|Istanbul-Turkey
this requires an invasion seriously!
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7068|London, England

Ottomania wrote:

this requires an invasion seriously!
For the women?

I reckon Iran is up there with Brazil and Sweden for you know what, it's only the veils and the headscarves that ruin it. Invade and Liberate indeed.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6853|North Carolina
For what it's worth, some American states allow minors to be tried as adults.  I believe NC is one of them.  Now, I don't know if any minors have been executed in the U.S., but I do believe there have been people who have been executed for crimes they committed as minors.

So really, this isn't that far from American policy.

Now, if they're executing 10 year olds, then I can understand the fuss.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7097

From what I've heard from Iranian women who live in Iran, they do actually have fairly similar rights to men.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7075|space command ur anus
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500072002

Fifteen US states were holding a total of 82 child offenders on death row as of August 2002. Eighteen executions of child offenders have been carried out in six states since 1990. One of those executed was 16 at the time of the offence; the others were all 17. Eleven of the executions were in Texas, the state which has carried out the largest total number of executions of prisoners since the resumption of executions in the USA in 1977 -- 281 up to 17 September 2002.

get down from your fucking high horse mr bill orily
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

herrr_smity wrote:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500072002

Fifteen US states were holding a total of 82 child offenders on death row as of August 2002. Eighteen executions of child offenders have been carried out in six states since 1990. One of those executed was 16 at the time of the offence; the others were all 17. Eleven of the executions were in Texas, the state which has carried out the largest total number of executions of prisoners since the resumption of executions in the USA in 1977 -- 281 up to 17 September 2002.

get down from your fucking high horse mr bill orily
http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGAMR510472005 .. admittedly late to the party.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7075|space command ur anus

Kmarion wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500072002

Fifteen US states were holding a total of 82 child offenders on death row as of August 2002. Eighteen executions of child offenders have been carried out in six states since 1990. One of those executed was 16 at the time of the offence; the others were all 17. Eleven of the executions were in Texas, the state which has carried out the largest total number of executions of prisoners since the resumption of executions in the USA in 1977 -- 281 up to 17 September 2002.

get down from your fucking high horse mr bill orily
http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGAMR510472005 .. admittedly late to the party.
good
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6853|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500072002

Fifteen US states were holding a total of 82 child offenders on death row as of August 2002. Eighteen executions of child offenders have been carried out in six states since 1990. One of those executed was 16 at the time of the offence; the others were all 17. Eleven of the executions were in Texas, the state which has carried out the largest total number of executions of prisoners since the resumption of executions in the USA in 1977 -- 281 up to 17 September 2002.

get down from your fucking high horse mr bill orily
http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGAMR510472005 .. admittedly late to the party.
Ah, I forgot about that....

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