CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
I only work a 37.5 hour week. And I have flexi-time and 25 annual leave days a year (not including company holidays and national holidays!)... Duffman says 'Ohhh yeahhh!'.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-12 08:48:51)

Ottomania
Troll has returned.
+62|6968|Istanbul-Turkey

CameronPoe wrote:

I only work a 37.5 hour week. And I have flexi-time and 25 annual leave days a year (not including company holidays and national holidays!)...
you visit lots of countries this is nice but what would you do when you finish that?
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7075|space command ur anus

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

35 Hours?  WTF?  Jesus Christ.
If I'm not mistaken, Germany considers 32 hours as full time.

Many European nations have shorter work weeks, because it allows more people to be employed, but I think these kinds of policies are a bit outdated.  Moving towards a 40 hour week is probably for the best.
i work 40 hours a week, and they are considering 6 hour days
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

CameronPoe wrote:

I only work a 37.5 hour week. And I have flexi-time and 25 annual leave days a year (not including company holidays and national holidays!)... Duffman says 'Ohhh yeahhh!'.
Damn...  I get 5 days vacation and 10 holidays.  I only work 40 hours a week though.

Lucky Irish!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

herrr_smity wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

35 Hours?  WTF?  Jesus Christ.
If I'm not mistaken, Germany considers 32 hours as full time.

Many European nations have shorter work weeks, because it allows more people to be employed, but I think these kinds of policies are a bit outdated.  Moving towards a 40 hour week is probably for the best.
i work 40 hours a week, and they are considering 6 hour days
Nice...  now if only I could speak Norwegian...  lol
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6802
Imaginative and Daring move, supply side economic thinking at work.

Its a case of trying to provide equal opportunity for those who want to better themselves without the burden of taxes that punish achievement, time will tell.

The people who oppose it with palpable hatred only desire equality of out come.

He was elected fairly and should be given his 100 days at least.

Its funny to see who starts calling him a Nazi and a Hitler.

That’s the progressive thinking, tolerance and encouragement of discourse they preach. We always knew they were liars, now you all know. What you do with this information is up to you.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-05-12 14:49:45)

jonsimon
Member
+224|6942

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Imaginative and Daring move, supply side economic thinking at work.

Its a case of trying to providing equal opportunity for those who want to better themselves without the burden of taxes that punish achievement, time will tell.

The people who oppose it with palpable hatred only desire equality of out come.

He was elected fairly and should be given his 100 days at least.

Its funny to see who starts calling him a Nazi and a Hitler.

That’s the progressive thinking, tolerance and encouragement of discourse they preach. We always knew they were liars, now you all know. What you do with this information is up to you.
What are YOU rambling on about? I cant make sense of all your random pronouns.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Imaginative and Daring move, supply side economic thinking at work.

Its a case of trying to providing equal opportunity for those who want to better themselves without the burden of taxes that punish achievement, time will tell.

The people who oppose it with palpable hatred only desire equality of out come.

He was elected fairly and should be given his 100 days at least.

Its funny to see who starts calling him a Nazi and a Hitler.

That’s the progressive thinking, tolerance and encouragement of discourse they preach. We always knew they were liars, now you all know. What you do with this information is up to you.
While it is true that many people who call themselves progressive are just as close-minded as many conservatives, there are plenty of openminded people among both liberals and conservatives.

Sarkozy may be blunt about certain things, but I think he's very open-minded about how to fix France.  Now, if only he and the rest of France could lessen some of their hangups about hiring immigrants.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6997|CH/BR - in UK

Not wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

What's wrong with a 35 hour week? Ever heard of quality over quantity?
Ever heard of France?
I'm getting sick of this French stereotype. What the hell? What the hell is wrong with France? Not one bit more than the USA. This "standing joke" is getting very old very fast.
France tried to get a higher standard of living by setting the work to 35 hours a week. Socially this is excellent, as it gives everyone a chance to be with their family etc. It gives people time to take care of their kids, it motivates workers to work better.
But it also decreases the overall profit of France by reducing their total productivity. That is what Sarkozy wants to improve.
I like his thinking This is a good way to have people rewarded who put more effort into their work.

-konfusion
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

konfusion wrote:

Not wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

What's wrong with a 35 hour week? Ever heard of quality over quantity?
Ever heard of France?
I'm getting sick of this French stereotype. What the hell? What the hell is wrong with France? Not one bit more than the USA. This "standing joke" is getting very old very fast.
France tried to get a higher standard of living by setting the work to 35 hours a week. Socially this is excellent, as it gives everyone a chance to be with their family etc. It gives people time to take care of their kids, it motivates workers to work better.
But it also decreases the overall profit of France by reducing their total productivity. That is what Sarkozy wants to improve.
I like his thinking This is a good way to have people rewarded who put more effort into their work.

-konfusion
As someone else here has said, Americans typically parrot the British in their ridicule of France without really knowing the history behind the tension.

That being said, I can still respect France for helping us during the Revolution.  Had it not been for that, we probably would have lost against the British. We paid the French back by saving them during WW2, but we did that with the help of the other Allies as well.

But yeah, again, I think Sarkozy's got the right idea.
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6900|Ontario, Canada
wow 35 hours a week? congratz france, your good for nothing in this world.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6997|CH/BR - in UK

d4rkst4r wrote:

wow 35 hours a week? congratz france, your good for nothing in this world.
Read the post above, moron.

-konfusion
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

Did any other European states follow France's lead with the 35 hour work week? I understood it was an idea that was meant to reduce unemployment. But doesn't that also just force lower wages since employers would have to hire more employees to cover the gaps in service/production? Lower wages/lower spending/lower economic growth/ higher unemployment..etc..etc. France's unemployment rate hasn't fallen below 8 percent in a quarter century. Those numbers would scare the hell out of Americans who now see rates at 4.6 .When faced with no job or working 40+ hours a week I'll take the latter. Hard work builds character anyways .
Xbone Stormsurgezz
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Kmarion wrote:

Did any other European states follow France's lead with the 35 hour work week? I understood it was an idea that was meant to reduce unemployment. But doesn't that also just force lower wages since employers would have to hire more employees to cover the gaps in service/production? Lower wages/lower spending/lower economic growth/ higher unemployment..etc..etc. France's unemployment rate hasn't fallen below 8 percent in a quarter century. Those numbers would scare the hell out of Americans who now see rates at 4.6 .When faced with no job or working 40+ hours a week I'll take the latter. Hard work builds character anyways .
Ireland has a 4.3% unemployment rate and our working week is circa 40 hours or slightly under. France are just inept and stuck in their ways.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Ottomania wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I only work a 37.5 hour week. And I have flexi-time and 25 annual leave days a year (not including company holidays and national holidays!)...
you visit lots of countries this is nice but what would you do when you finish that?
Finish travelling? Never!

Next stop Portugal (June) and then I am thinking of getting my passport cancelled and renewed so that I can visit Iran.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6938|Menlo Park, CA

usmarine2005 wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

What's wrong with a 35 hour week? Ever heard of quality over quantity?
lol........ ok.  I work about 50 hours a week, and my quantity and quality are just fine.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Did any other European states follow France's lead with the 35 hour work week? I understood it was an idea that was meant to reduce unemployment. But doesn't that also just force lower wages since employers would have to hire more employees to cover the gaps in service/production? Lower wages/lower spending/lower economic growth/ higher unemployment..etc..etc. France's unemployment rate hasn't fallen below 8 percent in a quarter century. Those numbers would scare the hell out of Americans who now see rates at 4.6 .When faced with no job or working 40+ hours a week I'll take the latter. Hard work builds character anyways .
Ireland has a 4.3% unemployment rate and our working week is circa 40 hours or slightly under. France are just inept and stuck in their ways.
That's awesome, even the UK is hovering at a decent rate 5.5 ish? But Those countries are not forcing a 35 hour work week are they? There are some industries that must go outside those restrictions. It doesn't mean as a whole nation the standard should be 40+ hours though. I'm for just allowing more room for the sick ambitious people who enjoy working themselves night and day.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Kmarion wrote:

That's awesome, even the UK is hovering at a decent rate 5.5 ish? But Those countries are not forcing a 35 hour work week are they? There are some industries that must go outside those restrictions. It doesn't mean as a whole nation the standard should be 40+ hours though. I'm for just allowing more room for the sick ambitious people who enjoy working themselves night and day.
Our legal maximum average working week is 48 hours (not including breaks, etc.). It's illegal not to get 11 consecutive hours off work in every 24 hour period.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

That's awesome, even the UK is hovering at a decent rate 5.5 ish? But Those countries are not forcing a 35 hour work week are they? There are some industries that must go outside those restrictions. It doesn't mean as a whole nation the standard should be 40+ hours though. I'm for just allowing more room for the sick ambitious people who enjoy working themselves night and day.
Our legal maximum average working week is 48 hours (not including breaks, etc.). It's illegal not to get 11 consecutive hours off work in every 24 hour period.
I'd say thats quite a big difference from 35. When I drove for UPS we had restrictions with the amount of hours we were allowed to be out on the road (Obviously for safety reasons). They recently changed it before I left and I believed the law was that you had to have 10 hours off between shifts. Anything over 8 hours was overtime and the pay was around 45 usd an hour. So most drivers were pushing the restrictions everyday to bring in good money. This meant all the guys who wanted to give their hours up and go home to have a life outside of work could do so easily. Amazing how everyone won with no government interference.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA
In the United States you get paid 1x your rate for the first 8 hours, 1.5x your rate for the next 4 hours, and 2x your rate beyond that.

On federal holidays you get paid 2x your rate I believe (it may be 1.5x, I don't know for certain).



Now if they could only get that 'no-doze' pill that allows me to sleep 2 hours a-day...I may actually be able to buy a house.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7048|132 and Bush

Harmor wrote:

In the United States you get paid 1x your rate for the first 8 hours, 1.5x your rate for the next 4 hours, and 2x your rate beyond that.

On federal holidays you get paid 2x your rate I believe (it may be 1.5x, I don't know for certain).



Now if they could only get that 'no-doze' pill that allows me to sleep 2 hours a-day...I may actually be able to buy a house.
Varies by employer. If we worked on national holidays at UPS it was triple time.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA

Kmarion wrote:

Varies by employer. If we worked on national holidays at UPS it was triple time.
And by state.

I pay my salaried employees overtime eventhough they are salaried!  Of course I have Flex-time as well...if they work less than 40 hours they don't get paid unless they have vacation saved up.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6802

Kmarion wrote:

Harmor wrote:

In the United States you get paid 1x your rate for the first 8 hours, 1.5x your rate for the next 4 hours, and 2x your rate beyond that.

On federal holidays you get paid 2x your rate I believe (it may be 1.5x, I don't know for certain).



Now if they could only get that 'no-doze' pill that allows me to sleep 2 hours a-day...I may actually be able to buy a house.
Varies by employer. If we worked on national holidays at UPS it was triple time.
at UPS you earned your money. I felt bad for you guys.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6802

jonsimon wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Imaginative and Daring move, supply side economic thinking at work.

Its a case of trying to providing equal opportunity for those who want to better themselves without the burden of taxes that punish achievement, time will tell.

The people who oppose it with palpable hatred only desire equality of out come.

He was elected fairly and should be given his 100 days at least.

Its funny to see who starts calling him a Nazi and a Hitler.

That’s the progressive thinking, tolerance and encouragement of discourse they preach. We always knew they were liars, now you all know. What you do with this information is up to you.
What are YOU rambling on about? I cant make sense of all your random pronouns.
It seems some one took the short bus to school.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA
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