SpaceApollyon
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stef10 wrote:

Well, it seems like they think allah is a name that their god has. Like one man has the name Michael...
Wha???
Its not a 'name' like Michael. Its 'God' in Arabic.
CameronPoe
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SpaceApollyon wrote:

stef10 wrote:

Well, it seems like they think allah is a name that their god has. Like one man has the name Michael...
Wha???
Its not a 'name' like Michael. Its 'God' in Arabic.
I don't think Stef will get that. You've made it far too difficult for him to comprehend. Dumb it down a bit.
stef10
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You should think that, but some muslims say it like it is a name. And if he is a moongod then it is most likely a name.

Cameron, please do not be so childish to say that I am a retard that does not think far when really I like to think things well through and when I see something weird I like to dig closer.

And may I ask why some muslims may not like that non-muslims say allah if it only means god?

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:04:52)

CameronPoe
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stef10 wrote:

You should think that, but some muslims say it like it is a name. And if he is a moongod then it is most likely a name.

Cameron, please do not be so childish to say that I am a retard that does not think far when really I like to think things well through and when I see something weird I like to dig closer.
Well why can't you comprehend the fact that Allah = Yahweh = God (all Abrahamic). It's a fact, live with it. We've hammered this silly bullshit out several times before.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-12 16:05:52)

stef10
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Because when I see so many things that point the other direction I simply can not agree.

Then I need to search more!

And when I suddenly see that Allah was really wroshipped as a moon-god then I can not agree

Why can people then be silly enough to believe a prophet that said allah was god and then in every possible way fails the criteriers to becoming a prophet from god. It does not require a porfessor to see that this is more that suspecious.

So simply as things are at the moment I will never say that Allah is god.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:13:37)

RedTwizzler
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Marlboroman82 wrote:

Kommander_Kale wrote:

"On this day alone, Jesus fulfilled over 30 prophecies!"
OMG! What a haxxor! Not one, not two but over 30 prophecies!!!!! I liked how they cited references and backed that one up. Really professional work.
yea there are alot of questionable facts in all of this
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa... There were facts in this?

Typical Anti-Islamic, Pro-Christian propaganda. Gotta love the USA.
SpaceApollyon
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stef10 wrote:

You should think that, but some muslims say it like it is a name.
There is no way in hell that Muslims use the word 'Allah' the same way we use names like Michael.
Would you care to provide some proof of your claim?
stef10
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Damn, then I need to find that video from youtube!

link

wtf does that not work?

If you think it over, does something not seem a but suspecious?

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:24:50)

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stef10 wrote:

Damn, then I need to find that video from youtube!
You could try asking a muslim on the forum. m3thod will open your eyes to the facts if you ask him.
stef10
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Well, the video is on!
SpaceApollyon
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stef10 wrote:

Well, the video is on!
Just finished watching it, and I'm a bit confused about why you posted it. The guy on the video speaks ten minutes about whether or not the word Allah is in the bible. How is that proof of Muslims using 'Allah' as a common name?
m3thod
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SpaceApollyon wrote:

stef10 wrote:

You should think that, but some muslims say it like it is a name.
There is no way in hell that Muslims use the word 'Allah' the same way we use names like Michael.
Would you care to provide some proof of your claim?
That is correct.  You don't use the name 'Allah' for an individual.  That remains in exclusively use for God. Calling somone Allah would sure piss off a new people for sure.  It also wouldn't be used in a humerous way for example as Liverpool Fans would refer to Robbie Fowler as 'God'.

The name Mohammed is also somewhat exclusive example:

Mohammed Abdullah Khan would be known as Abdullah Kahn....you dont really use the Mohammed bit.  The name Mahmood or Mahmoud has been derived from Mohammed to attempt to negate the need to use Mohammed....not that people really bother.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-05-12 16:37:43)

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stef10
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Well, i have not watched it in some days, but the first thing occurs after 1 second. If we have the same gods then we does he say" is allah is the bible?"
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stef10 wrote:

So simply as things are at the moment I will never say that Allah is god.
Would it matter?  You're not even muslim!
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stef10
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Yes it would! If I said that then I would not be a Christian or a Jew. well, if I was a jew then I would still be a Jew but not one that prays to the god of the Jews.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:42:31)

SpaceApollyon
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stef10 wrote:

Well, i have not watched it in some days, but the first thing occurs after 1 second. If we have the same gods then we does he say" is allah is the bible?"
The whole video is about a guy explaining that the word 'Allah' is the same word as 'God'.
stef10
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Just hear what he says and think then it will come!
m3thod
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stef10 wrote:

Yes it would! If I said that then I would not be a Christian or a Jew.
Make your mind up which one are you?

And no it wouldn't.  No muslim would give a damn whether or not a hate filled teenager would acknowledge the name 'Allah' as God.

Tis a sad sight.
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stef10
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Well, I really can not say that I am a Jew if there was a reason to believe, because it is nearly impossible to figure who is a Jew by blood.

Well, this pretty much closes it.


Then really it is 50 againts 50. Wh is god?

Well, you decide who to belive in.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:48:29)

CameronPoe
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The D&ST Hall of Infamy:

1. Xietsu
2. Ikarti
3. stef10
SpaceApollyon
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stef10 wrote:

Just hear what he says and think then it will come!
I have no interests in thinking whether or not Islam, Christianity and/or Judaism have the same god. Such ponderings have zero value to me. The guy on the video is convinced that these major religions have the same god. The God = Allah. And he rants about the issue for ten minutes. So what?

The thing that you said was: Muslims use 'Allah' like we use 'Michael'.
...and such a statement is utter BS
stef10
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CameronPoe wrote:

The D&ST Hall of Infamy:

1. Xietsu
2. Ikarti
3. stef10
Well, is that your retaliation because I was right?

Last edited by stef10 (2007-05-12 16:58:47)

m3thod
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stef10 wrote:

Well, I really can not say that I am a Jew if there was a reason to believe, because it is nearly impossible to figure who is a Jew by blood.

Well, this pretty much closes it.


Then really it is 50 againts 50. Wh is god?

Well, you decide who to belive in.
Look kid you are what you are.  Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindi, Sikh whatever.  Only the hate filled assholes give a damn what you believe.

Chose a faith that you can relate with, follow it to the extent that you want, live a clean, law abiding life and no one need bother you and vice versa.
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CameronPoe
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stef10 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

The D&ST Hall of Infamy:

1. Xietsu
2. Ikarti
3. stef10
Well, is that your retaliation because I was right?
lol. Despite being wrong you called it a 50-50. And then you changed your mind in the space of one post to conclude that you 'won'. You're pretty mixed up.
m3thod
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SpaceApollyon wrote:

stef10 wrote:

Just hear what he says and think then it will come!
I have no interests in thinking whether or not Islam, Christianity and/or Judaism have the same god. Such ponderings have zero value to me. The guy on the video is convinced that these major religions have the same god. The God = Allah. And he rants about the issue for ten minutes. So what?

The thing that you said was: Muslims use 'Allah' like we use 'Michael'.
...and such a statement is utter BS
He may be referring to the fact the extremists/loonies are always chanting Allah ho Akbar? Hence derived that fact it's a normal name to say as per Michael?
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