CameronPoe wrote:
You are demeaning those that voted for Gore so I'm exaggerating your farcical statement. It's called humour.
it failed
CameronPoe wrote:
without any evidence to support such a sweepingly ludicrous claim.
Try addressing what I actually say instead of being evasive, its getting very old and tiring.
“ evidence “ Why not look at the map? You have no idea of the population areas of the USA If you do not see it is pretty accurate. Not Farcical or sweepingly ludicrous. In fact the last three post have pretty much nailed you for that title but , you earned it. The pompous act is entirely unsuited for your depth.
Hunter/Jumper wrote:
A case of condescension that is completely unfounded. How you propose to look down on people is really beyond me. Its been my experience that people in the rural areas have to be more independent , self regulating self, reliant self sufficient and rugged individualists as they don’t have and have not learned to rely on the vast infrastructure and government agencies that only an urban area can provide.
CameronPoe wrote:
Gimme a break. Life in the country is simple. I'm from the country myself. Pace of life is slower, no homeless people, no high murder/crime rates, no overloaded hospitals/schools. They're GENERALLY more blinkered to the state of the nation than those in the city. That doesn't diminish their right to vote for whoever they want of course.
Please then, reciprocate and give me a break.
Again Try addressing what I said . See below.
Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Congratulations in tipping your hand so completely as the urban, leftist, elitist your want to be. Looking down on anyone who doesn’t live in a city by minimizing their importance. Our founding Fathers predicted this could happen so they created the electoral college to offset the power the electorate of a densely populated area would have. They felt the deep agricultural areas should have a voice proportionately as strong. Thank GOD !The urban centers are important! They are, but.. The people who live in the rest of the country are the ones who feed the world and create the things we actually need. Gore Won the slums of the Urban centers and the Liberal elite. He couldn’t win the average working taxpayers raising a family. We are not fooled.
So because I called you on everything you said , You try and pretend The debate is about City/Urban vs. Rural
The words I used were
“anyone who doesn’t live in a city” which doesn’t mean the Deep woods, desert, mountains or farm land, You twisted it that direction with your deliberate misinterpretations ( < Here I assume you are not stupid, please correct me if I am wrong however )
Your constant effort to twist and deceive is alarming as is your comfort with it. FAIR & BALANCED?
Hunter/Jumper wrote:
This wouldn’t be because people in the city tend to be more dependent , need regulating, tend to become reliant, cant suffice are soft and are not individualists? They don’t create problems that are rare in rural areas?
Words like (Repeat offender),( Habitual criminal ) were created in urban centers and are usually used in context only there. It certainly appears to me the Liberal policies that are employed in dense urban areas seem to create a self perpetuating class of people the have become completely dependent upon the government, which in turn keeps them at living a subsistence level.
CameronPoe wrote:
People in the city tend to be more dependent? Not a fan of the products of hi-tech manufacturing jobs eh? Not fond of global financial transactions and the movement of capital eh?
Its clear that perhaps in Ireland, the lines between city and country are a little more sharply drawn. The USA ( with the Exception of the New Orleans French Quarter, NYC SoHo, and Boston, I may have missed some ) Grew up around the Automobile, the “ hi tech ” industries and manufacturing bases you speak of are not restricted to urban areas in fact in the last 40 years or so corperations have made it a point to relocate in more open areas for tax purposes and other reasons. “The Silicon Valley” is a typical example, these places are referred to as “tech centers” or “industrial parks” and are usually very suburban. Simply put, you cant speak for Americans. ( do you speak for anyone save sad, disenfranchised communists ? Humor..) So again
Another case of condescension that is completely unfounded. How you propose to look down on people is really beyond me. but you do it much to often to suit your caliber.
CameronPoe wrote:
The reason poor people don't live in the country is because it's more expensive and requires motor vehicles, etc.
Your out of your depth completely here and I won’t educate you.
CameronPoe wrote:
You seem to believe that life can be some utopian Garden of Eden where nobody is poor which is patently ridiculous.
When did I say this ? Ever Is this poe or is your little brother at the keyboard?
CameronPoe wrote:
Country folk have to worry about whether the crop is gonna be good this year.
don’t you mean farmers ? Pray tell what happens to farmers who don’t produce a good crop? Anyone ? No worries !
CameronPoe wrote:
City folk worry about decisions that affect the entire region.
You mean Government officials don’t you? Albany and Sacramento (state capitals ) don’t really fall into your narrow perceptions of cities as you need are car to live in either. I cant speak for any other states but Im sure most others have the same set up with the exception of Boston.
Even in Washington D.C. a car is essential. So “your analogy is poor and tired !”
CameronPoe wrote:
Logistics, the distribution of products,
OH Yes lots of Trucking hubs and Shipping in NYC, Freight trains don’t even enter it. Lost again.
CameronPoe wrote:
the supply of vital services, research and development, politics, governance.
The only Government in NYC is NYC’s Government.. Research in NYC = Mt. Sinai, Colombia.. The USA is littered with Research Centers that are not urban.
CameronPoe wrote:
The people in the city hold a great responsibility,
What is it that responsibility that only an urbanite possesses?
CameronPoe wrote:
greater than those in the country when one realises that food can be imported (probably for cheaper than those charged domestically). ,
Wait, you just relized food can be imported? lol Were do you think imported food comes from? Please tell me you aren’t that dumb!
CameronPoe wrote:
Don't get me wrong country folk have an important role, but not a vital one for maintaining a civilised society in this modern predominantly urban world.
“predominantly urban world. Try and look back at the population map. Does it appear
“predominantly urban ? Actually I feel like I am defining voltage to a New Guinea Tribesman here.
The Cities would starve and die without the things produced in the agricultural areas( i.e. not cities
). The Reverse is not true, Did American Indians have secret cities hidden some were ? Eskimos ? Sorry, you have Gone astray again !
CameronPoe wrote:
You're kind of proving my point when you say: "(Repeat offender),( Habitual criminal ) were created in urban centers and are usually used in context only there." It shows that those in the country have a sanitised view of the state of the country. Thanks for proving my point.
People outside of the Urban areas ( sans Liberals ) just have a more realistic approach to community and law enforcement. Your point is moot, a pattern is evolving.
CameronPoe wrote:
PS Very few people enjoy living at a subsistence level, the vast majority of humans strive to better themselves and earn a good living so your statement that city life 'keeps people living at a subsistence level' is laughable. The reasons are far more complex than that.
At this point your well past embarrassing yourself but, Here we go again..
Hunter wrote:
It appears Liberal policies that are employed in dense urban areas seem to create a self perpetuating class of people the have become completely dependent upon the government, which in turn keeps them at living a subsistence level.
Is not the same thing as
poe wrote:
your statement that city life 'keeps people living at a subsistence level.
Honestly, Was that my statement and its meaning or are you are you deliberately mendacious?
Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Again I ask , Where do you get the detached sense of superiority ? Its wholly inappropriate to insult people in mass, Then Refer to Yourself as “FAIR & BALENCED “ your appearing more and more to display the characteristics of a self important, snob and fraud. Who displays in your last post alone, More evidence of narrow provincial thinking than anyone you obviously look down on.
poe wrote:
I don't look down on people from the country. We're all equal. But by virtue of the fact that country folk ARE sanitised as regards seeing the true ills of society in a given nation they can sometimes be less informed when making their voting decisions..
The city has special secret Television that only liberals can access ? WTF
poe wrote:
But that's their right - self interest dominates the politics of certain countries.
So demonstrably incorrect its comical. Really Who here is displaying the characteristics of a sanitized view of society? The naïveté of adolescence? Tell us
what country’s politics are not dominated by self interest in your un-sanitized and superior, enlightened and progressive view?
poe wrote:
Fair & Balanced' - I thought I explained this already. It's a dig at Fox News. You can say you are something constantly but it means nothing - get it?
Yes, are you referring to yourself I hope?
Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-05-15 15:16:38)
