Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7008|Long Island, New York

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Pretty nice. That GTS'll go good for you. You'll want to up the PSU if you go SLI (which you should).
Any reccomendations? I dont know what is a decent manufacturer... i do know that a decent quality lower watt PSU, is better than a poor quality higher watt PSU...
Go Thermaltake. Get an 850W. 800 might do it.

Make sure you have a GIGANTIC case if you go SLI though. I suggest a Lian Li.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6993|...

as for the ram just check EVGAs compat guide the specific board you are buying.

btw ... wise choices.

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-05-13 09:50:32)

=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7055|England
What sort of wattage should i be looking at?

EDIT: 800W?! Blimey!

Was thinking of

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … subcat=111

Last edited by =Karma-Kills= (2007-05-13 09:53:28)

=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7055|England
Oh yeh, what about thermal paste?
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6964|N. Ireland
Get an X2900XT. Or at least wait for the 8800 to go down in price now that the 2900 is out! Arctic Cooling 5 works well.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Pretty nice. That GTS'll go good for you. You'll want to up the PSU if you go SLI (which you should).
Any reccomendations? I dont know what is a decent manufacturer... i do know that a decent quality lower watt PSU, is better than a poor quality higher watt PSU...

ghettoperson wrote:

Switch the RAM to Crucial Ballistix. OCZ is nice, but those sticks don't use D9GMH, whereas the Crucial does.
What is D9GHM? I chose the OCZ becuase of the SLI features, as i thought with an Nvidia GPU, and NForce motherboard it would fly...?
D9GHM is a model of IC made by Micron that are rather wonderfully good. You find them on just about all high end RAM.
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7055|England

leetkyle wrote:

Get an X2900XT. Or at least wait for the 8800 to go down in price now that the 2900 is out! Arctic Cooling 5 works well.
I have heard 8800 > 2900, but anyways this is only ideas... so im not *too* worried about pricing atm.

Arctic Cooling 5 paste is good then? Ill take your word for it!
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7020|UK

I wouldnt bother with the sound card, atleast not with the specific motherboard youve choosen, unless you have awsome speakers you wouldnt notice it.

The 8800GTX>2900XT, but thats hardly suprising, wait for the benchmarks and such to surface comparing the GTS with the XT.  That psu is the one I am getting (or will be, I originally ordered the 670 version, but after a week of it sitting in out of stock, and the 2900 apparantly needing 750, i'm going for that one.  Look at silverstone for awsome cases, I've got a TJ-09 sitting empty for some strange reason in my spare room, it is awsome, shall fill it up eventually

Martyn

Last edited by Bell (2007-05-13 11:38:19)

CrazeD
Member
+368|7143|Maine

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

No need for a floppy. You can use a thumb drive as a floppy if you need it.

EDIT: If you want a bigger PSU check out the Thermaltake Toughpower 750w.
Can USBs be used in windows setup. Eg insert SATA driver is usally done via floppy, will it recognise a USB during install?
Yes, I believe so.

Though on my new MSI motherboard I didn't have to do that.

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

My PSU should be k right? Quality over quantity?
I'm not sure of the quality of Enermax as I have never used it and haven't read much about it. Though supposedly it is a good, solid brand. The Thermaltake Toughpower 750W is also an excellent power supply.

600 - 650W is plenty though, as long as you have a good amount of amps on the +12V rail (you're gonna want 40 - 50A).
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,079|7242|PNW

CrazeD wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Looks good other than the Arctic Cooling fans. The case fans are "okay", but there are better ones. The CPU cooler is pretty crappy, though. You're better off going with a Zalman CNPS9500 or one of the Scythe or Thermaltake ones.

I also recommend getting two 74GB Raptors instead of the one 150GB Raptor. It will be 148GB of space, but you can put them in a RAID array and make it twice as fast.
Changed the HSF, can you reccomend any better case fans?

I looked into the 2 x 74GB RAID 0, but id be paying £50 more, for the same space, and a small speed increase. Plus the Raptor X is pretty, and the CM 830 case has a special design / holder to show it off - apparently!
It's not a "small speed increase", it's just about twice as fast as a single Raptor. Your choice though.
That's paper-bench illusion. In real-world computing, it doesn't help all that much. I'm using two 74GB Raptors in RAID0 myself, so can speak from personal experience.

The advantage to getting a 150GB Raptor is that you can add another for a 300GB RAID0 setup in the future when the drive's price drops another $75-$100 USD.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-13 22:05:57)

GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

I would suggest Corsair HX620W PSU instead of enermax. corsair PSUs are actually Seasonic but they are very good and quiet. Radeon HD 2900XT has driver issues at the moment with AA modes but that will be fixed soon. It will be faster then but we'll see how much.

Last edited by [69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN (2007-05-13 22:30:48)

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Snowmanimal
Not so unique forum title
+30|7013|My head
i'd say coolermaster PSU.  but thats just me.
PvtStPoK
paintball > bf2
+48|6985|montreal, quebec

usefull case: X-NAVIGATOR ATX Black Metal Case with 500W PS with Side Window it comes with all cables you need, good cooling system (5 fans), a LCD temperature display for DH and CPU (always usefull is overclocked), 2 fans controller, one in fornt other in back
LEDs are annoying, but you get used to.

Monitor:

9url=http://www.extreme-pc.ca/showproduct.asp?productid=370365&menu1id=12&menu2id=138&menu3id=165]Samsung 205BW 20" LCD Wide (Black) 6ms DVI[/url] only 20", but its the best you can get for quality/price

Cost is in Canadian dollars

with the money you save only with those 2, you can afford a second HD.


Im not sure if im right, but your mobo only support DDR2 memory and your video card is DDR3, you might want to double check if card will work with mobo


/2cents
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7055|England
Thanks for the continued input.

Realistically, what PSU will i need?

Im looking at SLI, Dual Core, 2 Optical drives and 3 HDDs as worst case scenario.

Looking at Corsair 620W:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-004-CS

and, Enermax Infiniti 720W:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-031-EN
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Thanks for the continued input.

Realistically, what PSU will i need?

Im looking at SLI, Dual Core, 2 Optical drives and 3 HDDs as worst case scenario.

Looking at Corsair 620W:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-004-CS

and, Enermax Infiniti 720W:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu … =CA-031-EN
what gfx cards you are planning to use on SLi? that is important to know because cards like 8800GTX need more than one pci-e power cable from psu which means 4 pci-e cables needed when running SLi.
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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

If you're looking at SLi, you'll be wanting round about a 1000W PSU. A 8800 GTX consumes about 350W on it's own at load.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

ghettoperson wrote:

If you're looking at SLi, you'll be wanting round about a 1000W PSU. A 8800 GTX consumes about 350W on it's own at load.
nope it consumes less than 220w. radeon 2900XT crossfire needs 1000w. over 700w is enough for 8800GTX SLi
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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

If you're looking at SLi, you'll be wanting round about a 1000W PSU. A 8800 GTX consumes about 350W on it's own at load.
nope it consumes less than 220w. radeon 2900XT crossfire needs 1000w. over 700w is enough for 8800GTX SLi
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=9

Bottom of the page.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

ghettoperson wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

If you're looking at SLi, you'll be wanting round about a 1000W PSU. A 8800 GTX consumes about 350W on it's own at load.
nope it consumes less than 220w. radeon 2900XT crossfire needs 1000w. over 700w is enough for 8800GTX SLi
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=9

Bottom of the page.
lol, ya pwned ur self. thats the hole system's power need hahahahah

edit: We have tested SLI for you guys and power consumption rose towards a 512 Watt peak.
source: http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/391/9/

Last edited by [69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN (2007-05-14 10:58:10)

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ghettoperson
Member
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[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


nope it consumes less than 220w. radeon 2900XT crossfire needs 1000w. over 700w is enough for 8800GTX SLi
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=9

Bottom of the page.
lol, ya pwned ur self. thats the hole system's power need hahahahah
I know that's what it says, but if that was the case no one would have bothered inventing a PSU over about 150w till the 8800 came along. I think they may have labled it wrong or something. And based on what you're saying, you need a 1000w for 2x 2900XT, but only 350w for a high end rig with one of the same card in? Don't be ridiculous.
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7055|England
Probs looking at 8800GTS 640 SLi, maybe GTX though. Im pretty sure both say SLi complaint though. Or there any other PSUs i should be looking at?
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

Putting it through this I get about 740W. Guess you were more correct, although I'm still not sure about why that graph said what it did. Doesn't make sense either way.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6885|Finland

ghettoperson wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=9

Bottom of the page.
lol, ya pwned ur self. thats the hole system's power need hahahahah
I know that's what it says, but if that was the case no one would have bothered inventing a PSU over about 150w till the 8800 came along. I think they may have labled it wrong or something. And based on what you're saying, you need a 1000w for 2x 2900XT, but only 350w for a high end rig with one of the same card in? Don't be ridiculous.
one GTX for high end rig -> 500w PSU
two GTXs for high end rig -> about 750w PSU 
you need to have some extra power so the psu runs more cooler and at better efficiency

EDIT: and for karma-kills: Thermaltake Toughpower 850w has 4 pci-e power cables so it can easily handle 8800GTX SLi

Last edited by [69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN (2007-05-14 11:07:34)

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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7120

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

[69th_GFH]GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


lol, ya pwned ur self. thats the hole system's power need hahahahah
I know that's what it says, but if that was the case no one would have bothered inventing a PSU over about 150w till the 8800 came along. I think they may have labled it wrong or something. And based on what you're saying, you need a 1000w for 2x 2900XT, but only 350w for a high end rig with one of the same card in? Don't be ridiculous.
one GTX for high end rig -> 500w PSU
two GTXs for high end rig -> about 750w PSU 
you need to have some extra power so the psu runs more cooler and at better efficiency

EDIT: and for karma-kills: Thermaltake Toughpower 850w has 4 pci-e power cables so it can easily handle 8800GTX SLi
Oh wait, I calculated that with GTS's. With a GTX I get about 800w.
Snowmanimal
Not so unique forum title
+30|7013|My head
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/powercalc.jsp

try that to see how much power you really do need.  it takes a little while to figure out all the details but its really useful.


multicore (yours is a dual core) processors count as a single processor.  if you are buying 2 processors then put in 2 processors.  and so on.

Last edited by Snowmanimal (2007-05-14 11:13:35)

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