13rin
Member
+977|6926
A friend sent this e-mail to me.  Source unknown:

Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant"
is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed Pharmacist

"I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with
seed.

Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started
building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the
barbecue.

Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs,
the table...everywhere. Then some of the birds turned mean: They would
dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own
pocket. And others birds were boisterous and loud: They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food..

After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. I took down
the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up
their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.


Soon, the back yard was like it used to be...quiet, serene and no one
demanding their rights to a free meal.

Now lets see...our government gives out free food, subsidized
housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born here to be a automatic citizen. Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor:  your child's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press "one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than "Old Glory" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7075|IRELAND

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
Or maybe the government should help set up a few bird feeders in other areas. Or encourage the birds to feed of the land.

I like birds.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6942
People and their analogies. When will anyone learn that you can only take them so far?
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7070|Little Bentcock
Get rid of those damed bird feeders.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
Enjoy anarchy my friend. Best start exercising the right to bear arms asap!

PS Are you trying to tell me that governmental control of tax revenue is like leaving a bunch of seeds out in the open? Do the government dump a load of money on the pavement and let the dregs of society battle it out for their 'seeds'. Please. Some people and their simplistic analogies.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-16 05:26:09)

|BFC|Icenflame
Member
+11|6924|Cape Town - South Africa
lol Poe !!!

yeah round them all up and throw them in camps and kick them out! I thought America was the land of the free where ANYONE could make their dreams come true this is obviously not the case.

You think you've got a problem with illegal immigrants try living in South Africa the "richest nation" in Africa we are considered Africa's USA where you can get a job and earn a decent living although we have an unemployment rate of 43% we still have huge problems with Illegals from Zimbabwe pouring over the boarder to find work to feed their families back home.  Then we have all the Cameroonians/DRC's (Democratic Republic of Congo) Nigerians, Somalians hell every other african out there on top of which we have 11 Official Languages !

Ha you think you guys have it bad!!! everyone deserves a chance and if they contribute to their foster country then by all means live among us and become a South African...
13rin
Member
+977|6926

|BFC|Icenflame wrote:

lol Poe !!!

yeah round them all up and throw them in camps and kick them out! I thought America was the land of the free where ANYONE could make their dreams come true this is obviously not the case.

You think you've got a problem with illegal immigrants try living in South Africa the "richest nation" in Africa we are considered Africa's USA where you can get a job and earn a decent living although we have an unemployment rate of 43% we still have huge problems with Illegals from Zimbabwe pouring over the boarder to find work to feed their families back home.  Then we have all the Cameroonians/DRC's (Democratic Republic of Congo) Nigerians, Somalians hell every other african out there on top of which we have 11 Official Languages !

Ha you think you guys have it bad!!! everyone deserves a chance and if they contribute to their foster country then by all means live among us and become a South African...
I wish they would.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domestic … amp;rpc=22
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6989|Texas - Bigger than France
Wow, crazy.

However, I really hope the case makes it to the supreme court, so at least the government would be forced to make a commitment either way.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
Make a commitment? If an illegal immigrant got within 200m of a law court I'd be demanding to know why they hadn't been repatriated yet! I don't understand the American approach to immigration control at all.
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7096|Washington DC

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Now lets see...our government gives out free food, subsidized
housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born here to be a automatic citizen. Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families: you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor:  your child's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English: Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to press "one" to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than "Old Glory" are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
You are mixing up two issues:  welfare & illegal immigration

Illegal immigration:  All of the illegal immigrants I encounter do not take advantage of "free" services, particularly something like an emergency room, unless it is a life & death situation.  If they need medical care, they go to one of the no-questions-asked clinics.  Illegal immigrants do a lot to stay under the radar screen.

Welfare:  Now, as far as welfare, your argument assumes that if welfare disappears, than all problems disappear.  No.  Absolutely not.  If you decrease welfare, do you know what will increase?  Crime, and tons of it.  It is a tradeoff:  crime vs. welfare

In your story, the starving birds will not just "go away", they will break into your house, peck your eyes out, and steal all the food in your house.

Welfare and other such services, put in perspective, are simply a proactive crime prevention mechanism.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6989|Texas - Bigger than France

CameronPoe wrote:

Make a commitment? If an illegal immigrant got within 200m of a law court I'd be demanding to know why they hadn't been repatriated yet! I don't understand the American approach to immigration control at all.
If there is an active case, they are IN court.

I'm talking about a legal ruling on immigrant rights by the Supreme Court....settle the issue...
sexecuti0ner
What kinda guy are you are?
+148|6679

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Now lets see...our government gives out free food, subsidized
housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born here to be a automatic citizen. Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands.

Maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
Yes, the illegal immigrants in this country sometimes take advantage of our generosity, and the tax-payers are the ones who have to pay for it.  But free food, subsidized housing, free medical care, and free education are also used by tax-paying citizens.  I don't think that "taking down the bird feeder" would be fair to these people.  I do agree that illegal immigration is a problem in this country, but I don't think that eliminating services that many Americans have come to rely on is the answer.
Fen321
Member
+54|6945|Singularity

|BFC|Icenflame wrote:

lol Poe !!!

yeah round them all up and throw them in camps and kick them out! I thought America was the land of the free where ANYONE could make their dreams come true this is obviously not the case.

You think you've got a problem with illegal immigrants try living in South Africa the "richest nation" in Africa we are considered Africa's USA where you can get a job and earn a decent living although we have an unemployment rate of 43% we still have huge problems with Illegals from Zimbabwe pouring over the boarder to find work to feed their families back home.  Then we have all the Cameroonians/DRC's (Democratic Republic of Congo) Nigerians, Somalians hell every other african out there on top of which we have 11 Official Languages !

Ha you think you guys have it bad!!! everyone deserves a chance and if they contribute to their foster country then by all means live among us and become a South African...
Thank you for proving that US immigration problem is a tad bit dramatized.

11 official languages?

haha really puts things into perspective imo.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

CameronPoe wrote:

Make a commitment? If an illegal immigrant got within 200m of a law court I'd be demanding to know why they hadn't been repatriated yet! I don't understand the American approach to immigration control at all.
That makes two of us.
Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6791|New York
Can't we shoot the "birds?"

I'm sorry but this issue really pisses me off. Afterall they come here and steal our jobs, drain our healthcare and social services, commit crime and clog our legal system and courts, demand rights they have no claim to, drive without insurance, wave their stupid flags etc. etc. etc.  I say round them up and ship them back.  It would be different if the majority of them were skilled workers like doctors and teachers but this country does not need millions of extra gardeners, landscapers, housekeepers or whatever.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7109|USA

Villain{NY} wrote:

Afterall they come here and steal our jobs..... this country does not need millions of extra gardeners, landscapers, housekeepers or whatever.
LMFAO. Yeah I was pissed when I found out Ronaldo got that housekeeper job over me.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
because illegal immigrants are the majority who use our countries social services.

not really.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7109|USA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

because illegal immigrants are the majority who use our countries social services.

not really.
Yep. Take that bird feeder away and the millions of 'poor' Americans lose out too. But thier liberals anyway so who cares.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

Villain{NY} wrote:

Can't we shoot the "birds?"

I'm sorry but this issue really pisses me off. Afterall they come here and steal our jobs, drain our healthcare and social services, commit crime and clog our legal system and courts, demand rights they have no claim to, drive without insurance, wave their stupid flags etc. etc. etc.  I say round them up and ship them back.  It would be different if the majority of them were skilled workers like doctors and teachers but this country does not need millions of extra gardeners, landscapers, housekeepers or whatever.
lets send all those beaners back!
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6727
A friend sent this e-mail to me.  Source unknown:

"I bought a bird feeder. I set it up outside the factory I own, that I built after cutting a deal with the government to plow the birds' normal feeding grounds under in exchange for me supporting measures to make it illegal for anyone else in the town limits to feed the birds.

Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But it doesn't really matter because I'm making a good profit by charging my workers out of their pay for the feed and telling them that the Sierra Club is forcing me to provide for these undocumented birds.

Then came the poop. It was everywhere: in the smoking area, the parking lot, all over my workers' cars, but I don't really care because my parking spot has a cover over it. Then some of the birds turned mean: They would dive bomb my workers and try to peck them even though they had fed them out of their own
pockets; I told them they'd better not complain to OSHA about it or they'd be on the unemployment line tomorrow.

After a while, I did have to let some of the malcontents go. It wasn't really a big deal because I managed to get subsidies for my business, so I was still in the black and I got to keep the birds. I've managed to deflect most of the local criticism by sponsoring politicians who want to build giant nets at the town line to keep the birds out; we both know they're going to find a way through, but it mollifys the suckers by making them think their representatives are actually doing something and that I really want to keep the birds out. Right now I've got more birds than workers, but I'm still making money and if the birds get out of line, I can always have animal control take away the troublesome ones, or maybe just shoot them. It's not like anyone around here will really care either way."

Story fixed. You're welcome.

Last edited by HunterOfSkulls (2007-05-16 11:08:16)

13rin
Member
+977|6926

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

A friend sent this e-mail to me.  Source unknown:

"I bought a bird feeder. I set it up .......    .......money and if the birds get out of line, I can always have animal control take away the troublesome ones, or maybe just shoot them. It's not like anyone around here will really care either way."

Story fixed. You're welcome.
You're out there.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6965|USA
in terms of welfare - i propose a time limit - you have 6 months (for example) of welfare to help you find a job and work your way up.  people who are given free money need an incentive other than more free money to better themselves.  In the context of illegal immigration, this policy, and the policy of harsher punishment to employers for employment of illegal aliens, would limit the resources illegal aliens could exploit. 

in terms of illegal immigrants using government services - i would like someone to present facts concerning percentages of their use vs use of 'poor' Americans.  if the percentage of illegal usage is substantial, the situation has become fubar.  possible solutions would include mass deportation and new policies of background checks to 'purify' our population.  unrealistic.  the only thing left is cut the problem at the source - the border.  secure it.  however, this does not solve many [other] problems...
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6938|Menlo Park, CA
Absolutely! I love this post!! TAKE DOWN THE FUCKING BIRD FEEDER!!

NO MAS ILLEGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6727
With all due respect, saying the border is the source of the problem is like saying your skin is the reason you got cut. They aren't crossing the border for the fuck of it, because it's there and it's poorly secured. They're crossing it because there's something on the other side they want, something they have a decent idea will be given to them, that they can't get at home: jobs. Build a fence. Build a wall. Build both of them 200 feet high and top them with razor wire and broken glass and put sentry towers with fixed machinegun emplacements. They'll dig under it, they'll go over it, they'll con or sneak their way through it. As long as there's jobs on one side and shit on the other, it might as well not be there at all. Walls and fences aren't going to change that. Cute little stories likening Mexicans to filthy, pushy vermin looking for a handout isn't going to change it either. All you're doing is bitching about the birds and ignoring the people feeding them and the people making sure they can't eat somewhere else. Maybe we should try deporting the people who hire them and give away American jobs or the people who enforce the trade deals driving Mexican agriculture and manufacturing into the shitter. Or maybe it's just easier to be a dolt regurgitating recycled bonehead propaganda about the Brown Hordes coming to take over the US from within, since asking the tough questions of why and how this is happening is too "out there" for some people.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7153
Fill the bird feeder with rat poison.  Just kidding, but really illegals are a huge problem that needs to go.

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