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should the parents be of blame for leaving Madeleine McCann alone

YES. kids should never be left alone59%59% - 77
NO. they was 50 yards away, and checked on them regular29%29% - 38
NULL VOTE. can make up my mind10%10% - 14
Total: 129
2007-05-17 05:58:15
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|7103|UK
Its been almost 20 days since the little girl Madeleine McCann dissapeard from her hotel apartment in the Portugeze town of Praia Da Luz.

On the 3rd of may Madeleines family went for a meal in a small restraunt no more then 50 yards from where they were staying, they was taking it in turn to go check on the kids every so often, but on one check they found that there 3 year old daughter was missing from there hotel appartment.

This has now turned into a massive hunt for the little girl, and i hope and prey to god that she turns up safe and well, but as much as i hope she turns up safe and well i have this niggle in the back of my head telling me that she should NEVER of been left alone in the room in the firts place, now as a parent i have been in situations were i may have left my kids for 5 mins (EG POPPED TO THE CAR TO GET A TOY THEY LEFT).

this thread is no way meant to make them look like bad parents as i am sure they are not, nor is it to make them feel any guilt for there option of leaving the child. i am just intrested to get the veiws of others.

BUT WHAT I DO ASK IS THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE PRAY TO WHOM EVER YOUR GOD IS THAT SHE TURNS UP SAFE AND WELL

BTW I VOTED YES

Last edited by Rubix-Cubes (2007-05-17 08:07:48)

2007-05-17 06:01:43
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6934|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
You never leave a child alone like that!! Those fucks deserve to be fucked!! Oh they took turns checking on them, whoop de fucking doo!! They should have been with them or they should have been at home!!
2007-05-17 06:03:07
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7068|London, England
Jesus you're crying so much about this like it's the end of the world. Chill down man, worse shit happens everyday in the UK itself.

It's the parents fault entirely, who in their right mind would leave their children like that for dinner, in a foreign country. I have sympathy for the little girl, i know what it's like to be very young and have no idea where your parents are or what's going on (extremely scary and it wasn't your average lost in the supermarket one) but i have no sympathy for the parents for leaving her like that.
2007-05-17 06:03:13
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7109|USA
Blaming the victims is tasteless. I voted No.
2007-05-17 06:08:06
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7068|London, England
What i also don't like is the witchunting that is going on because of this. Seemingly innocent people who were actually helping the investigation are having their lives destroyed by the tabloids on accusations of being responsible. Fucked up.
2007-05-17 06:10:16
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6934|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
Quick question, are any of you a parent?
2007-05-17 06:12:06
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

SgtHeihn wrote:

You never leave a child alone like that!! Those fucks deserve to be fucked!! Oh they took turns checking on them, whoop de fucking doo!! They should have been with them or they should have been at home!!
You don't have kids I can see.

My wife and I were talking about this the other day; it could happen.
2007-05-17 06:14:28
pedigreeuk
I'm English, not British!
+113|7218|Rotherham, England
Without going into detail about whose at fault and who isn't i'd just like to add this.

What kind of parents in there right mind leave young children alone in a foriegn town with nothing but a couple of toys and stuff for company, while the selfish fucked up parents fuck off to the local restaurant for a piss up and food! So fucking what if they checked on them every so often, I personally don't believe that one iota and think that they were sat there doing what the fuck they want while the kids were out of sight, out of mind so to speak.

I think there are the most undeserving of parents and if that's the way they look after children then quite honestly the other kids should be taken away from them too!

The above rant (allbeit short) is in no way intended to take anything away from the sadness and heartbreak that her family are no doubt feeling now, but I fear unfortunately it's a case of too little too late, with a sharp undertone of if you don't want to lose something you should look after it better in the first place!

/rant

Yes I am a parent, so yes I feel qualified to comment on this in the manner I have done.

And I hope that she is found safe and well in the very near future!

Last edited by pedigreeuk (2007-05-17 06:15:41)

2007-05-17 06:15:24
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6934|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

ATG wrote:

SgtHeihn wrote:

You never leave a child alone like that!! Those fucks deserve to be fucked!! Oh they took turns checking on them, whoop de fucking doo!! They should have been with them or they should have been at home!!
You don't have kids I can see.

My wife and I were talking about this the other day; it could happen.
Actually I have a 6yr old I have not seen since his mother disappeared, I would never leave my son like that. He is ether with me or with someone I trust
2007-05-17 06:15:38
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
I would say no - never ever leave your kids unattended for however short a time.
2007-05-17 06:19:24
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7096

I've had a huge debate about this on another forum. Leaving your kids alone in an environment where you believe them to be safe is not a very big deal. Everyone over reacts massively with 'bla bla bla lazy parents, they don't care etc' but the reality is that they did and do care, they would not have left her if they were not 100% sure she was safe. Most likely the kids were all asleep in bed, and the parents figured rather than wake them up it was better just to leave them to sleep.
2007-05-17 06:32:53
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7213|Cambridge (UK)
I'm sorry, but if I had kids, I would never leave them alone like that.
2007-05-17 06:45:58
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6997|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

ghettoperson wrote:

I've had a huge debate about this on another forum. Leaving your kids alone in an environment where you believe them to be safe is not a very big deal. Everyone over reacts massively with 'bla bla bla lazy parents, they don't care etc' but the reality is that they did and do care, they would not have left her if they were not 100% sure she was safe. Most likely the kids were all asleep in bed, and the parents figured rather than wake them up it was better just to leave them to sleep.
Naiveity isn't an excuse
2007-05-17 06:49:19
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6910|Tyne & Wear, England
I don't care how close they were and how regularly they kept checking, it was irresponsible.  I have said that from the start.

I cannot imagine for one second leaving my future kids unattended, at such a young age.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2007-05-17 07:43:07
MrE`158
Member
+103|7070
Leaving a three-year-old unattended for a half-hour is irresponsible, so far as I'm concerned.  30 minutes is a long time in the world of small children.

If the kid was 7 or 8 or so, sure, they're much better able to take care of themselves, but 3?  That's a big risk, even if the child is at home in your own house.  To do it while away on holiday in a foreign country is worse.  Hell, the parents didn't even bother to get the in-hotel babysitter.

I sincerely hope that little girl turns up safe and well, I really do.  But those parents made a serious mistake, they were overly casual with their child's safety.
2007-05-17 08:07:05
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|7103|UK

SgtHeihn wrote:

Quick question, are any of you a parent?
yes i am, single farther of 4 year old lad. and as i said the only time i leave him ALONE is if i pop to the car to get some shit, not more then a few Min's, but i consider that a little bad, OK he is in my home in a chair happily playing with some toys, and likelihood of him being snatched is low, BUT what if he starts chocking on a toy or falls down, OK i don't mollycoddle him, i don't want him to be queer when he grows up, BUT i do make sure that I know what he is doing as much as i can..
2007-05-17 08:24:43
MrE`158
Member
+103|7070

Rubix-Cubes wrote:

SgtHeihn wrote:

Quick question, are any of you a parent?
yes i am, single farther of 4 year old lad. and as i said the only time i leave him ALONE is if i pop to the car to get some shit, not more then a few Min's, but i consider that a little bad, OK he is in my home in a chair happily playing with some toys, and likelihood of him being snatched is low, BUT what if he starts chocking on a toy or falls down, OK i don't mollycoddle him, i don't want him to be queer when he grows up, BUT i do make sure that I know what he is doing as much as i can..
That's kinda my point:  You don't need to consider baby-snatchers or kidnappers when leaving a child alone, just the kid's safety.

Small children get badly hurt all the time even while under their parents supervision.  A toddler that wanders into the next room can pull something down on their heads and get seriously injured.  They might chew on something that's bad for them, there's any number of horrible things that can happen in a home, no matter how well taken care of the children are. 

With all the things that can happen to a kid, what kind of parent would leave such a small child alone for half an hour?
2007-05-17 08:25:42
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Blaming the victims is tasteless. I voted No.
So, if I leave my child at the house of a known pedophile you wouldn't feel me to be at all irresponsible?

Also, the literary skills of the OP concern me.......................
2007-05-17 08:25:53
Titch2349
iz me!
+358|6799|uk

I feel sorry for the child, not the parents.

However, i still hope that she turns up safe and well

Last edited by Titch2349 (2007-05-17 08:26:53)

2007-05-17 08:55:25
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6892|The Land of Scott Walker
As a parent, I would not be comfortable leaving my child alone for that long at that age.  I even worried about leaving my daughter in the living room while I took a 5 minute show on Saturday morning. 

That said, I don’t know if I can blame the parents.  I’m on the fence on this one.  On one hand, they did go check on her periodically, but on the other hand, they left a young toddler alone.  If the little girl had not been taken, this wouldn’t be news.  So the real issue is that there are disturbed people out there who snatch kids.  That could happen even if you run into the gas station to pay and come right back out.  I can’t imagine the worry these parents are experiencing, I don’t think beating them over the head helps anything.
2007-05-17 09:01:09
Black Vaine
Member
+43|7069|K-Town, Sweden
It is sad...

But, hundreds of children are abducted each year.. Why is it such a big fuzz over this? Celebs are donating money now to whoever might tip the police etc...
2007-05-17 09:35:55
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6997|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Black Vaine wrote:

It is sad...

But, hundreds of children are abducted each year.. Why is it such a big fuzz over this? Celebs are donating money now to whoever might tip the police etc...
I don't think hundreds of kids get abducted every year, not in the UK anyway.  However i would say that hundreds run away but I think any kidnapping hits the news.

With that in mind, my mum made the suggestion that she could have just wondered out of the villa by her self and gone into the sea or something.  My cousin did it when were on holiday oce, luckily we were in a complex so he couldn't get very far.  With the recent arrests of Robert Murrat and that Russian bloke, it seems that possibility has slipped out of everybodies minds...
2007-05-17 09:44:26
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

KILLSWITCH wrote:

I don't care how close they were and how regularly they kept checking, it was irresponsible.  I have said that from the start.

I cannot imagine for one second leaving my future kids unattended, at such a young age.
You will.
2007-05-17 09:53:39
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|7103|UK

Black Vaine wrote:

It is sad...

But, hundreds of children are abducted each year.. Why is it such a big fuzz over this? Celebs are donating money now to whoever might tip the police etc...
I think the reason that this case has become so big is that the police in Portugal failed the parents, the authorities were very slow to organise any search or question locals at the time of the report, thus making it big headlines in the uk, i mean it would have been big anyways, but now all the press and there local Portuguese government are trying to make a mends by making the incident as public as possible
2007-05-17 09:54:25
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6910|Tyne & Wear, England

ATG wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

I don't care how close they were and how regularly they kept checking, it was irresponsible.  I have said that from the start.

I cannot imagine for one second leaving my future kids unattended, at such a young age.
You will.
OK maybe whilst they are sitting in the living room playing with toys and I am in the kitchen making dinner.  Or when I am off to fill the car with petrol and I have to pay the petrol station.

But this is different, in the examples above they would be within my line of sight/distance of hearing.

I can safely say that there is no way in hell I would have done what Madeline's parents done though.  It doesn't necessarily make them bad parents, we all make mistakes.  But unfortunately they are paying the consequences for a mistake.

I just hope she comes home safe.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

 

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