Why would an illegal immigrant want to pay taxes, and how could they pay taxes without a social security number? The only illegals who bother to steal social security numbers are going to do it for the benefits. Gain some knowledge before you form an opinion.xBlackPantherx wrote:
"Illegal immigrants" stimulate our economy. They take shitty jobs, they pay taxes and social security even though they will never be able to collect it. Without them, at least 1-2, if not more, people would be gone in our lives thanks to the dickhead we know and hate as Bush. As well as the guy who shot someone in the face.
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How is coming here illegaly not a crime?xBlackPantherx wrote:
Your statement doesn't even make sense.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Speak for yourself... commie.xBlackPantherx wrote:
at least 1-2, if not more, people would be gone in our lives thanks to the dickhead we know and hate as Bush.I agree, I am saying the bush administration is TRYING to do something about the immigration "problem". They are doing very little, but yes, they are doing something in which I disagree. I say that if an illegal immigrant breaks the law (other than coming in illegally) and they get discovered, they should probably get deported depending on what the crime was; but if they are law biding, tax paying, social security paying, hard working immigrants, LEAVE THEM BE.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Are you suggesting that the Bush administration is doing something about the illegal immigration issue? I don't know, the way you write renders your point difficult to make out.xBlackPantherx wrote:
"Illegal immigrants" stimulate our economy. They take shitty jobs, they pay taxes and social security even though they will never be able to collect it. Without them, at least 1-2, if not more, people would be gone in our lives thanks to the dickhead we know and hate as Bush. As well as the guy who shot someone in the face.
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But a lot of people have no problems with immigrants who want to work. It's the ones who break our laws (besides the one about being here illegally) that Americans are generally pissed off at.
Deadmonkiefart wrote:They have already commited a crime by coming over illegaly. They are not being repremanded for it, so what is going to stop them from performing other illegal actions? They have already proved their unwillingness to follow our laws by being here.
If you would actually READ, I never said it wasn't a crime, I said OTHER THAN coming over here ILLEGELY.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
How is coming here illegaly not a crime?xBlackPantherx wrote:
Your statement doesn't even make sense.Dezerteagal5 wrote:
Speak for yourself... commie.xBlackPantherx wrote:
at least 1-2, if not more, people would be gone in our lives thanks to the dickhead we know and hate as Bush.I agree, I am saying the bush administration is TRYING to do something about the immigration "problem". They are doing very little, but yes, they are doing something in which I disagree. I say that if an illegal immigrant breaks the law (other than coming in illegally) and they get discovered, they should probably get deported depending on what the crime was; but if they are law biding, tax paying, social security paying, hard working immigrants, LEAVE THEM BE.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Are you suggesting that the Bush administration is doing something about the illegal immigration issue? I don't know, the way you write renders your point difficult to make out.
But a lot of people have no problems with immigrants who want to work. It's the ones who break our laws (besides the one about being here illegally) that Americans are generally pissed off at.
Deadmonkiefart wrote:They have already commited a crime by coming over illegaly. They are not being repremanded for it, so what is going to stop them from performing other illegal actions? They have already proved their unwillingness to follow our laws by being here.
You get this everyday. I can easily name a bunch of things that has for example asians taking racism to the extreme etc. Depends on the person, but then again you get blacks who blame everything on the white man, vice versa. What your saying is too vague, thats 2 people in a billion world wide.
I've not been the subject of racist remarks but if I've ever had an issue its always been with asians (arabs, muslims etc) not just me but friends too. UK favours them. Out of everyone in the UK the ones who cause the most problems are muslims. I've had a fair share of problems with quite a few of them, some of which involved them playing the race card when nothing racist was said.
I've not been the subject of racist remarks but if I've ever had an issue its always been with asians (arabs, muslims etc) not just me but friends too. UK favours them. Out of everyone in the UK the ones who cause the most problems are muslims. I've had a fair share of problems with quite a few of them, some of which involved them playing the race card when nothing racist was said.
we're all goddamn wetbacks to the native americans.
Diffrent skin color can be changed by a few more, or a few less pigments.TrollmeaT wrote:
QFT, couldn't have said it better myself.Superslim wrote:
Skin color has nothing to do with the fact that some people as just plain assholes.
Regardless of an immigrants intentions or work ethic, if they came here illegally then they should be punished in some form or another. I know they love this countries freedoms and the chance it offers for a decent life but they need to do it legally like the so many millions of immigrants before them. Commiting a felony as your first act upon arriving in this country isn't the way you show love or respect.
I'm white in a country which is 85% white...I have, short hair, I'll usually wear a jumper, levis, normal shoes...nothing out of the ordinary yet I always get dirty looks/eyeballed by airport security when I walk through the metal detectors.
1) They do get punished, they have to pay social security on which they can never collect.Villain{NY} wrote:
Regardless of an immigrants intentions or work ethic, if they came here illegally then they should be punished in some form or another. I know they love this countries freedoms and the chance it offers for a decent life but they need to do it legally like the so many millions of immigrants before them. Commiting a felony as your first act upon arriving in this country isn't the way you show love or respect.
2) Some peoples' lives are so bad that they can not wait. Go fucking live on the street for a god damn week and see how you feel with nothing.
3) They contribute to our economy, thats about as much fucking respect as you can get
4) Stop talking
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1) If that's even true that's not punishment.xBlackPantherx wrote:
1) They do get punished, they have to pay social security on which they can never collect.Villain{NY} wrote:
Regardless of an immigrants intentions or work ethic, if they came here illegally then they should be punished in some form or another. I know they love this countries freedoms and the chance it offers for a decent life but they need to do it legally like the so many millions of immigrants before them. Commiting a felony as your first act upon arriving in this country isn't the way you show love or respect.
2) Some peoples' lives are so bad that they can not wait. Go fucking live on the street for a god damn week and see how you feel with nothing.
3) They contribute to our economy, thats about as much fucking respect as you can get
4) Stop talking
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2) Most countries on Earth are worse off than the United States, should we let everyone with a bad life come flooding into our country so our government can't take care of anyone? There are people from this country that live on the streets and have nothing so that's not a good point.
3) Stealing jobs from legal citizens, and draining our resources isn't helping the economy.
4) Relax we're just debating, it's nothing personal.
No country can illegaly come in easily or in quantities.Villain{NY} wrote:
1) If that's even true that's not punishment.xBlackPantherx wrote:
1) They do get punished, they have to pay social security on which they can never collect.Villain{NY} wrote:
Regardless of an immigrants intentions or work ethic, if they came here illegally then they should be punished in some form or another. I know they love this countries freedoms and the chance it offers for a decent life but they need to do it legally like the so many millions of immigrants before them. Commiting a felony as your first act upon arriving in this country isn't the way you show love or respect.
2) Some peoples' lives are so bad that they can not wait. Go fucking live on the street for a god damn week and see how you feel with nothing.
3) They contribute to our economy, thats about as much fucking respect as you can get
4) Stop talking
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2) Most countries on Earth are worse off than the United States, should we let everyone with a bad life come flooding into our country so our government can't take care of anyone? There are people from this country that live on the streets and have nothing so that's not a good point.
3) Stealing jobs from legal citizens, and draining our resources isn't helping the economy.
4) Relax we're just debating, it's nothing personal.
It is punishment, they have to give up they're little money for nothing that will benefit them in any way.
They do not steal jobs, they merely take the crappy ones in which no one else will.