Major_Spittle
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Why can people on the forum post that Christians/Jews are stupid/dangerous/evil .......  but when I said " You try to live next to a bunch of Islamic sand monkeys ",  in reference to Israel trying to live next to Palestine which is run by Hamas, I get threatened with a ban for being " racist ".  Then I get called all sorts of other names (bigot, prejudice, bias) yet the people who criticize Jew/Catholics/Mormons seem to not get called this or threatened.

What if I said "you try to live next to a bunch of Nazi goat yodelers" in 1939 in reference to the Nazis attacking European countries?  Is this racist?  Prejudice? Bias?

I do feel the teachings of Mohammad is evil.  I will call terrorists firing rockets from behind a wall into residential areas many things to illustrate how stupid and primitive they are.  Hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization, Islam is a religious belief system and Muslims are people that practice Islam and neither are much different than the Nazi party.  And both practice violence and hate toward ANYONE that doesn't share their belief system.  If not, explain this:


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (the devote follower of Islam and leader of Iran) Quotes:
Oct. 2006
"The Zionist regime is counterfeit and illegitimate and cannot survive."
May 2006
Israel is "a regime based on evil that cannot continue and one day will vanish."
April 2006
"The Zionist regime is an injustice and by its very nature a permanent threat. Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation. The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."
April 2006
"We say that this fake regime (Israel) cannot not logically continue to live. Open the doors (of Europe) and let the Jews go back to their own countries."
Dec. 2005
"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred... If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel... Why should the innocent nation of Palestine pay for this crime?"
Oct. 2005
"Israel must be wiped off the map... The establishment of a Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world."



Iraq fired Scud Missiles at Israel during the first Gulf War.  I suppose this had nothing to do with religion either.

All of the Warring in the ME between Sunni and Shite.

All the terrorist organizations that kill people in the name of Islam while quoting the Qua ran.

The virtual vacuum non Islamic religions in Islamic countries.

The treatment of Women and non Muslims in Islamic countries.

Why Muslims haven't policed and brought to justice the supposed minority belonging to "radical and violent" hate groups in their religion?

How can such violent hateful repressive people run so many countries in the Middle East if Islam is so peaceful and doesn't stand for repressing women, minorities, nonbelievers, Shites, Sunnis,  ....

Gee, the Middle East and Europe under the rule of the Nazi party appear to have a lot in common.  You must be Nazi/Muslim to have rights and if you are not Nazi/Muslim you will certainly be killed if you speak out against Nazism/Islam.  Islam/Nazism must be spread by the sword.  Muslims are superior to Infidels(nonbelievers).  Nazis/Arians are superior to other races.  There were Nazis that went to non Nazi countries and didn't kill people there while holding their beliefs and I am sure people thought them to be generally nice before WW2.  There are Muslims that move from Islamic countries to non Islamic countries and still hold their beliefs, don't kill people, and are generally nice people. 

....But this doesn't change that it is a dangerous, flawed, hateful, belief system as practiced by the majority of followers and the most Devout followers of the religion and they are the ones that want to kill or convert all non Muslims.

If that part of the world were all Catholics living and warring that way I guarantee it would be tolerated much less by Christians, Americans, and this forum.

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2007-05-18 18:27:39)

Parker
isteal
+1,452|6838|The Gem Saloon
you just need to specify.....

wahabists are the lowest form of shit life on this earth....not even worthy enough to be called animals.

not all of islam though.
l41e
Member
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Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
Major_Spittle
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+276|7098|United States of America

k30dxedle wrote:

Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
If one Muslim is not a terrorist, Islam is peaceful and a good force on humanity.

See where this is going?
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6764|South Carolina, US
Is there some website where we can copy and paste a sufficient response to this crap, or has anyone even bothered?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7115|UK
broken record.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
l41e
Member
+677|7092

Major_Spittle wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
If one Muslim is not a terrorist, Islam is peaceful and a good force on humanity.

See where this is going?
Yep. This is going towards the conclusion that every ethnic, religious, cultural, geographic, linguistic, and whatever else group of people is a massive terrorist organization wanting to take over the world.

m3thod wrote:

broken record.
Major_Spittle
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+276|7098|United States of America

k30dxedle wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
If one Muslim is not a terrorist, Islam is peaceful and a good force on humanity.

See where this is going?
Yep. This is going towards the conclusion that every ethnic, religious, cultural, geographic, linguistic, and whatever else group of people is a massive terrorist organization wanting to take over the world.
Only if you don't take into account the relavence of actual events perpatrated by the ethnic, religious, cultural, geographic, linguistic, and whatever else group of people you are judging.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6972|Global Command
Religion FTL.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7210|UK
I saw the topic name and KNEW it would be written by you...

You got flamed by me for calling "Islam is a disease". You prejudice knob.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-18 18:58:41)

Dauntless
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ATG wrote:

Religion FTL.
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
Chou
Member
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Whoa dude you were bored before making this thread? lmao getting drunk here
Poseidon
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usmarine
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Excuse me but how?  I think Bush, Fox, and Iraq have been discussed more.
m3thod
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Excuse me but how?  I think Bush, Fox, and Iraq have been discussed more.
Christian Fundamentalism = Bush
Islamic Fundamentalism = Iraq

FOX should be blown up.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
Banned
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m3thod wrote:

FOX should be blown up.
Fair enough.  Does not mean the dead horse ain't being beaten.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7118|Canberra, AUS
I think we've all gotten over the fact that there are Islamic terrorists, and yes they want to kill us etc. etc. Ho hum. What's on TV?

However, when you start generalizing...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Major_Spittle
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Vilham wrote:

I saw the topic name and KNEW it would be written by you...

You got flamed by me for calling "Islam is a disease". You prejudice knob.
Actually YOU said that statement is Racist because you think Islam is a race and then you quoted the dictionary for the meaning of Race and still couldn't figure it out and thought it was a race and then we all had a good laugh at your expense and now you call me prejudice instead which is just as laughable because if you are Islamic you follow the teachings in the Quaran which I disagree with many of its teachings so me disliking Islam and saying it is a disease is not prejudging anything, I just judged a religion......  So we are back to you not being the brightest pixel on the monitor, yet you are very opinionated and vocal.

Just out of curiosity, how young are you?  And as always, go Hemp!!!!

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2007-05-18 20:53:30)

Bubbalo
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Because the people who say Christians/Jews are stupid are either saying all religions are stupid or are referring to specific Christians/Jews.
Bubbalo
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+541|7005

Major_Spittle wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
If one Muslim is not a terrorist, Islam is peaceful and a good force on humanity.

See where this is going?
Who here has ever said that?
Major_Spittle
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+276|7098|United States of America

Bubbalo wrote:

Because the people who say Christians/Jews are stupid are either saying all religions are stupid or are referring to specific Christians/Jews.
I have no problem with that.  You can't say just one religion is stupid, more stupid, or dangerous without saying all religions are???  You should be a Mod on this site with that reasoning.  If someone follows a religion that is stupid, what does that make them in your opinion? 

Go Hemp!!!
Bubbalo
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Major_Spittle wrote:

You can't say just one religion is stupid, more stupid, or dangerous without saying all religions are???
There is a difference between saying that Islam is a religion that leads to violence and saying that all followers of Islam are violent.

Major_Spittle wrote:

If someone follows a religion that is stupid, what does that make them in your opinion?
A member of the majority of the population.
Major_Spittle
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Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Some Muslims are terrorists. Therefore all Muslims are bad. Some Caucasians are or were members of the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore all Caucasians are racists. Some objects in space are stars. Therefore Earth is a star.

See where this is going?
If one Muslim is not a terrorist, Islam is peaceful and a good force on humanity.

See where this is going?
Who here has ever said that?
It is a philosophical rhetorical question of method of reason.

If all fish live underwater and a trout is a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout live underwater.
B. If it rains you must eat kipper

If trout die when left out of water and trout are a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout die out of water
B.  Fish die out of water

It is a necessary limit of conversion, no the answer is not B to either statement.

Go Hemp!!!!
Bubbalo
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+541|7005

Major_Spittle wrote:

It is a philosophical rhetorical question of method of reason.

If all fish live underwater and a trout is a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout live underwater.
B. If it rains you must eat kipper

If trout die when left out of water and trout are a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout die out of water
B.  Fish die out of water

It is a necessary limit of conversion, no the answer is not B to either statement.
Oh, wow?  Really?  I didn't realise?  I guess these things come slow to Philosophy majors.........................

I have seen people criticise Islam and it's followers on an almost daily basis due to the fact that someone of them are terrorists, that was the point of the original statement.  Yet I have yet to see anyone argue that Islam is any more a force for good than any other religion.  That was my point.  Also, there was no rhetorical question in that, and it isn't a philosophical method of reasoning.  It's a demonstrably flawed method of reasoning occasionally used by idiots who don't even realise what they're doing and when someone points out the flaws in it will refuse to admit to it (read: you).
Major_Spittle
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Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

You can't say just one religion is stupid, more stupid, or dangerous without saying all religions are???
There is a difference between saying that Islam is a religion that leads to violence and saying that all followers of Islam are violent.

Major_Spittle wrote:

If someone follows a religion that is stupid, what does that make them in your opinion?
A member of the majority of the population.
I agree with your comment to each statement, so what is your problem.  Reading and understanding are two different things.  I said Islam is a disease, like in a Mental disorder, like in a rational person could never follow that belief system.  Islam is at the root of much violence and repression.  It would suck to live in a Islamic state.  It would suck to live in a non Islamic state adjacent to an Islamic state.  It would suck to live in Israel and they are not the problem.  This is what I was stating on the Israel is evil and wants to be bombed thread.

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