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2007-05-18 21:25:26
unnamednewbie13
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I'm going to say this in as much a detached manner as possible:

Apparently, white male Christians are to be held to higher standards than everyone else. Burden and a blessing (by way of biased compliment), brought to you by the media, justice system and politicians. This "we shouldn't, but they can (it's their culture)" attitude is just as dangerously racist as anything else that falls under the definition of the term. Justice is not blind, and has an opinion of its own.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-18 21:27:09)

2007-05-18 21:25:47
Major_Spittle
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Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

It is a philosophical rhetorical question of method of reason.

If all fish live underwater and a trout is a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout live underwater.
B. If it rains you must eat kipper

If trout die when left out of water and trout are a fish, what does it mean:

A. Trout die out of water
B.  Fish die out of water

It is a necessary limit of conversion, no the answer is not B to either statement.
Oh, wow?  Really?  I didn't realise?  I guess these things come slow to Philosophy majors.........................

I have seen people criticise Islam and it's followers on an almost daily basis due to the fact that someone of them are terrorists, that was the point of the original statement.  Yet I have yet to see anyone argue that Islam is any more a force for good than any other religion.  That was my point.  Also, there was no rhetorical question in that, and it isn't a philosophical method of reasoning.  It's a demonstrably flawed method of reasoning occasionally used by idiots who don't even realise what they're doing and when someone points out the flaws in it will refuse to admit to it (read: you).
You think that Islam is more a force for good than any other religion.  Ouch, and rhetorical means that no answer was expected or need by the person stating the question.  Good luck with your Major.  And Go Hemp!!!!
2007-05-18 21:26:03
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7005

Major_Spittle wrote:

I agree with your comment to each statement, so what is your problem.  Reading and understanding are two different things.  I said Islam is a disease, like in a Mental disorder, like in a rational person could never follow that belief system.  Islam is at the root of much violence and repression.  It would suck to live in a Islamic state.  It would suck to live in a non Islamic state adjacent to an Islamic state.  It would suck to live in Israel and they are not the problem.  This is what I was stating on the Israel is evil and wants to be bombed thread.
So, you don't think that saying Islam is something a rational person could never follow is maybe an insult to the huge number of perfectly rational people who follow Islam?  And you don't think that saying Islam is at the root of much violence and oppression is insult both to those followers of it who oppose the violence and oppression and to those who have been violently oppressed for being Islamic?  And you don't think both of these ignore history and the facts (i.e. Golden Age of Islam)?
2007-05-18 21:28:29
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7005

Major_Spittle wrote:

You think that Islam is more a force for good than any other religion.
Where did I say that?

Major_Spittle wrote:

Ouch, and rhetorical means that no answer was expected or need by the person stating the question.
Yet you did expect an answer to your question because you knew someone would respond.  Mine, for example.

Major_Spittle wrote:

Good luck with your Major.
Thanks, I'm doing nicely so far.

Last edited by Darth_Fleder (2007-05-19 12:05:42)

2007-05-18 21:31:04
Major_Spittle
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Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

I agree with your comment to each statement, so what is your problem.  Reading and understanding are two different things.  I said Islam is a disease, like in a Mental disorder, like in a rational person could never follow that belief system.  Islam is at the root of much violence and repression.  It would suck to live in a Islamic state.  It would suck to live in a non Islamic state adjacent to an Islamic state.  It would suck to live in Israel and they are not the problem.  This is what I was stating on the Israel is evil and wants to be bombed thread.
So, you don't think that saying Islam is something a rational person could never follow is maybe an insult to the huge number of perfectly rational people who follow Islam?  And you don't think that saying Islam is at the root of much violence and oppression is insult both to those followers of it who oppose the violence and oppression and to those who have been violently oppressed for being Islamic?  And you don't think both of these ignore history and the facts (i.e. Golden Age of Islam)?
Maybe I don't care if facts hurt.  All because a Retarded boy won the 50 yard dash at the Special Olympics he is still Retarded whether it hurts his feeling or not.  Here is your gold medal.

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2007-05-18 21:31:21)

2007-05-18 21:31:25
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6973|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

You think that Islam is more a force for good than any other religion.
Where did I say that?

Major_Spittle wrote:

Ouch, and rhetorical means that no answer was expected or need by the person stating the question.
Yet you did expect an answer to your question because you knew someone would respond.  Mine, for example.

Major_Spittle wrote:

Good luck with your Major.
Thanks, I'm doing nicely so far.

Major_Spittle wrote:

And Go Hemp!!!!
And you're a fuckwit!!!
Just because he said go hemp? or do you guys go back or something?
2007-05-18 21:33:52
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7005

Major_Spittle wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

I agree with your comment to each statement, so what is your problem.  Reading and understanding are two different things.  I said Islam is a disease, like in a Mental disorder, like in a rational person could never follow that belief system.  Islam is at the root of much violence and repression.  It would suck to live in a Islamic state.  It would suck to live in a non Islamic state adjacent to an Islamic state.  It would suck to live in Israel and they are not the problem.  This is what I was stating on the Israel is evil and wants to be bombed thread.
So, you don't think that saying Islam is something a rational person could never follow is maybe an insult to the huge number of perfectly rational people who follow Islam?  And you don't think that saying Islam is at the root of much violence and oppression is insult both to those followers of it who oppose the violence and oppression and to those who have been violently oppressed for being Islamic?  And you don't think both of these ignore history and the facts (i.e. Golden Age of Islam)?
Maybe I don't care if facts hurt.  All because a Retarded boy won the 50 yard dash at the Special Olympics he is still Retarded whether it hurts his feeling or not.  Here is your gold medal.
Yet somehow a religion which right now has some adherents killing people becomes the most violent religion on the planet regardless of history?
2007-05-18 21:34:54
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7005

ATG wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

You think that Islam is more a force for good than any other religion.
Where did I say that?

Major_Spittle wrote:

Ouch, and rhetorical means that no answer was expected or need by the person stating the question.
Yet you did expect an answer to your question because you knew someone would respond.  Mine, for example.

Major_Spittle wrote:

Good luck with your Major.
Thanks, I'm doing nicely so far.

Major_Spittle wrote:

And Go Hemp!!!!
And you're a fuckwit!!!
Just because he said go hemp? or do you guys go back or something?
Nope, because he's a twit who doesn't have clue what he's talking about.
2007-05-18 21:35:30
Scorpion0x17
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Major_Spittle wrote:

...a Retarded boy with developmental delay won the 50 yard dash at the Special OParalympics he is still Retarded has developmental delay...
2007-05-18 21:36:45
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6973|Global Command

Major_Spittle wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

I agree with your comment to each statement, so what is your problem.  Reading and understanding are two different things.  I said Islam is a disease, like in a Mental disorder, like in a rational person could never follow that belief system.  Islam is at the root of much violence and repression.  It would suck to live in a Islamic state.  It would suck to live in a non Islamic state adjacent to an Islamic state.  It would suck to live in Israel and they are not the problem.  This is what I was stating on the Israel is evil and wants to be bombed thread.
So, you don't think that saying Islam is something a rational person could never follow is maybe an insult to the huge number of perfectly rational people who follow Islam?  And you don't think that saying Islam is at the root of much violence and oppression is insult both to those followers of it who oppose the violence and oppression and to those who have been violently oppressed for being Islamic?  And you don't think both of these ignore history and the facts (i.e. Golden Age of Islam)?
Maybe I don't care if facts hurt.  All because a Retarded boy won the 50 yard dash at the Special Olympics he is still Retarded whether it hurts his feeling or not.  Here is your gold medal.
But, a guy standing on a flag pole going " Hey you're a bunch of RETARDS " will only rile up the retards. It's not like they will stop being retards.
Conversely, knowing about a religion can cause one to have strong feelings about it. Many Americans got introduced to Islam on 9-11 and had a good sit down when they saw nick Bergs head off. The fact is, not all Muslims are insane. They are here among us. It is unwise to lump them all together. This also does not negate the fact that 85% of the senseless murder worldwide every year is commited by Muslims. But again, white christian skin heads believe in Jesus, so fuck 'em all anyway.
2007-05-18 21:38:31
Bubbalo
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

...a Retarded boy with developmental delay won the 50 yard dash at the Special OParalympics he is still Retarded has developmental delay...
Actually, Special Olympics is right, Paralympics is for those with physical disabilities.

Last edited by Bubbalo (2007-05-18 21:40:07)

2007-05-18 21:39:47
Major_Spittle
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bubblegum wrote:

I have seen people criticise Islam and it's followers on an almost daily basis due to the fact that someone of them are terrorists, that was the point of the original statement.  Yet I have yet to see anyone argue that Islam is any more a force for good than any other religion.
Clearly I missed your point here, because you have no point unless it is that:

A.  People dislike Islam on this forum???
B.  You think since nobody says Islam is a good religion on this forum that my statement that Islam is a disease is unfounded???
C.  You have gotten into the cough syrup again???
2007-05-18 21:45:53
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6973|Global Command

Major_Spittle wrote:

bubblegum wrote:

I have seen people criticise Islam and it's followers on an almost daily basis due to the fact that someone of them are terrorists, that was the point of the original statement.  Yet I have yet to see anyone argue that Islam is any more a force for good than any other religion.
Clearly I missed your point here, because you have no point unless it is that:

A.  People dislike Islam on this forum???
B.  You think since nobody says Islam is a good religion on this forum that my statement that Islam is a disease is unfounded???
C.  You have gotten into the cough syrup again???
The ceaseless caustic charm is what endears me to you Spit. Despite what other people may say about you, I see the occasional gems from you and I sit back and think, " that guys a fucking genius, ". Now work on your marketing, convince people instead of hitting them over the head. Here;

https://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/httpdocs/images/blogcontent/ebay/advanced-selling-techniques-contents.jpg
2007-05-18 21:46:07
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
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Thank you Spittle, I think everybody is aware by now that you have exactly zero clue how to construct a rational argument. All you've got is weak generalizations ("Everybody here hates Christians and loves Islam"), a tendency to act like even the most carefully thought-out post is equal to one of your trite little "Islam iz a disease" verbal tics and a really annoying tendency to attribute words and thoughts to people who've never expressed anything similar to your claims. Seriously man. Decaf. Ritalin. Thorazine. Something for fuck's sake so the rest of us don't have to endure another round of you jerking yourself off with the BB.
2007-05-18 21:49:11
Major_Spittle
Banned
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ATG wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


So, you don't think that saying Islam is something a rational person could never follow is maybe an insult to the huge number of perfectly rational people who follow Islam?  And you don't think that saying Islam is at the root of much violence and oppression is insult both to those followers of it who oppose the violence and oppression and to those who have been violently oppressed for being Islamic?  And you don't think both of these ignore history and the facts (i.e. Golden Age of Islam)?
Maybe I don't care if facts hurt.  All because a Retarded boy won the 50 yard dash at the Special Olympics he is still Retarded whether it hurts his feeling or not.  Here is your gold medal.
But, a guy standing on a flag pole going " Hey you're a bunch of RETARDS " will only rile up the retards. It's not like they will stop being retards.
Conversely, knowing about a religion can cause one to have strong feelings about it. Many Americans got introduced to Islam on 9-11 and had a good sit down when they saw nick Bergs head off. The fact is, not all Muslims are insane. They are here among us. It is unwise to lump them all together. This also does not negate the fact that 85% of the senseless murder worldwide every year is commited by Muslims. But again, white christian skin heads believe in Jesus, so fuck 'em all anyway.
I have no problems with Retards, just for the record.  And if you can fill a whole countries with 10 million plus people that all live under the law of there religion by choice, and part of this law is that women can be killed like cattle if they get raped and infidels are subhuman not entitled to rights of muslims, that is pretty damning evidence that the religion is fucked.  Also consider that these are the most devout followers, live in the birthplace of the religion, are the majority of the followers, and they can't even get along without killing each other.

Things that make you go, hmmmmmm.

GO HEMP!!!
2007-05-18 21:50:05
ATG
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Hemp!
2007-05-18 21:57:20
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7098|United States of America

ATG wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

Clearly I missed your point here, because you have no point unless it is that:

A.  People dislike Islam on this forum???
B.  You think since nobody says Islam is a good religion on this forum that my statement that Islam is a disease is unfounded???
C.  You have gotten into the cough syrup again???
The ceaseless caustic charm is what endears me to you Spit. Despite what other people may say about you, I see the occasional gems from you and I sit back and think, " that guys a fucking genius, ". Now work on your marketing, convince people instead of hitting them over the head. Here;
techniques-contents.jpg[/url]
My approach to selling gutters:

You got some shit stain worthless gutter on your house you must be a moron.  I'll sell you this gutter so your neighbors don't think this is a crack house.

Your approach to selling gutters:

Nice sir, I noticed your gutters are in disrepair.  Can I interest you some new ones that will increase the value of your home.

Either way we all know you were thinking what I was saying.
2007-05-18 21:59:21
ATG
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+5,233|6973|Global Command
Lol, not exactly, but close.
2007-05-18 21:59:22
Major_Spittle
Banned
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ATG wrote:

Hemp!
It takes the edge off liberals if they think you are a pot head too.

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2007-05-18 21:59:35)

2007-05-18 22:04:42
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7218|Noizyland

Major_Spittle, you are being warned/flamed/banned for saying things like "Islam is a disease" because it shows a huge generalisation of 1.2 billion people, (22% of the world's population,) just because of the bullshit that the mass-media shoves down our throats.
Yes we see a lot of Muslims on TV threatening to kill us for reasons we don't care to learn about, but you simply cannot represent the views and feelings of 1.2 billion people in a news show, especially when media outlets target the 'interesting' ones who are into terrorism.
Islam and islamic law are very different to what we have in the western world, we generally see it as too harsh. Honestly though who are we to judge? You may bring up stories like of that teenager who was stoned to death and hold that up as an example of why you think Islam is a disease, but much worse than that happens every day in countries that are predominantly Christian, especially in African nations. We just don't hear about it from the media because it doesn't involve an angry man pointing at us and saying that he wants to destroy us.

If you only look at those horrific sensationalist news bites they show us every day and judge 1.2 billion people on them you just become a casualty of the mass-media. Don't believe everything you read in the news, and especially don't judge a large group of people on the views and actions of a minority.
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2007-05-18 22:09:19
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6973|Global Command
Don't ban him!
2007-05-18 22:14:32
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7218|Noizyland

I didn't, but he has been temp-banned before for doing those generalisations, (which is why I mentioned 'banned', it was't a threat. )
Anyway I'm not going to ban him because he argues a point instead of being one of those ignorant fuckhead types.
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2007-05-18 22:16:16
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6973|Global Command
You de man!
2007-05-18 22:17:28
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7098|United States of America

Ty wrote:

Major_Spittle, you are being warned/flamed/banned for saying things like "Islam is a disease" because it shows a huge generalisation of 1.2 billion people, (22% of the world's population,) just because of the bullshit that the mass-media shoves down our throats.
Yes we see a lot of Muslims on TV threatening to kill us for reasons we don't care to learn about, but you simply cannot represent the views and feelings of 1.2 billion people in a news show, especially when media outlets target the 'interesting' ones who are into terrorism.
Islam and islamic law are very different to what we have in the western world, we generally see it as too harsh. Honestly though who are we to judge? You may bring up stories like of that teenager who was stoned to death and hold that up as an example of why you think Islam is a disease, but much worse than that happens every day in countries that are predominantly Christian, especially in African nations. We just don't hear about it from the media because it doesn't involve an angry man pointing at us and saying that he wants to destroy us.

If you only look at those horrific sensationalist news bites they show us every day and judge 1.2 billion people on them you just become a casualty of the mass-media. Don't believe everything you read in the news, and especially don't judge a large group of people on the views and actions of a minority.
Islam is a religion, not 1.2 billion people.  Can I not disagree with its teachings, or do I have to convert or be banned?

I have never judged 1.2 billion Muslims, I judged their religion by the actions and societies they created from its teachings.  Warn/Flame/Ban away, if you don't like my opinions.  Long Live Yerded!!!

and as always, GO HEMP!!!
2007-05-18 22:23:01
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7218|Noizyland

My Hemp shirt got paint on it, I had to put it in the wash.
Anyway, If you say "Islam is a disease" you are basically shitting on the faith of 1.2 billion people. It isn't a nice thing to do really. Although you can disagree with Islamic teachings or the societies that run on Islamic law, I suggest you put it more eloquently so you don't come across as a Bigot. That's all.

And I never threatened to ban you, I was mentioning times in the past you have been banned for this. Jeeze, I'm a nice person I swear!
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