ATG
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+5,233|6976|Global Command
Intelligent design is a byproduct of empty space.
/discuss.

I will elaborate should anyone step up with something good.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7290|Alberta, Canada

So you are saying that empty space (like a sheet of white paper) is what is created after a design is made?
That's what I understand.

I'm sure I'm wrong, so I don't quite follow you.

My mind is hurting trying to think of a good reason to agree or disagree with that.

Last edited by Ryan (2007-05-19 20:14:17)

ATG
Banned
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Some scientists have tried to argue that if only we knew enough about the laws of physics, if we were to discover a final theory that united all the fundamental forces and particles of nature into a single mathematical scheme, then we would find that this superlaw, or theory of everything, would describe the only logically consistent world. In other words, the nature of the physical world would be entirely a consequence of logical and mathematical necessity. There would be no choice about it.
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ATG
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+5,233|6976|Global Command

Ryan wrote:

So you are saying that empty space (like a sheet of white paper) is what is created after a design is made?
That's what I understand.

I'm sure I'm wrong, so I don't quite follow you.

My mind is hurting trying to think of a good reason to agree or disagree with that.
Not exactly. Almost the reverse of what you said.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7290|Alberta, Canada

I kinda follow you, but you lost me again at the end.

You are saying that this superlaw only describes logic, and nothing else?
And the entire world is a consequence of this superlaw/theory?
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7122|Florida, United States

ATG wrote:

Some scientists have tried to argue that if only we knew enough about the laws of physics, if we were to discover a final theory that united all the fundamental forces and particles of nature into a single mathematical scheme, then we would find that this superlaw, or theory of everything, would describe the only logically consistent world. In other words, the nature of the physical world would be entirely a consequence of logical and mathematical necessity. There would be no choice about it.
Hmm.... this is slightly confusing but it sounds plausible.  Since almost anything physical can be measured, it means we have ways of using math to analyze physics, meaning it's plausible to believe that there is a super formula that sums it all up.
ATG
Banned
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It's like...mold growing in a basement. What else would grow there?
In an empty universe, something must grow. When we are it and we view ourself we seem preternatural; above nature, with some deeper higher meaning, lol.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7028|the dank(super) side of Oregon
what you are describing is god as a mathematical equation.
usmarine
Banned
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You need a deep boot in your ass cheech.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6965|Montucky

ATG wrote:

Intelligent design is a byproduct of empty space.
/discuss.

I will elaborate should anyone step up with something good.
ATG... Lay off the Dope...
PspRpg-7
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+961|7145

usmarine2005 wrote:

You need a deep boot in your ass cheech.
I lol'd.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

S3v3N wrote:

ATG wrote:

Intelligent design is a byproduct of empty space.
/discuss.

I will elaborate should anyone step up with something good.
ATG... Lay off the Dope...
Never!
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7122|Canberra, AUS
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
ATG
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+5,233|6976|Global Command
Think about it.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6989|Texas - Bigger than France
chaos theory
schoedinger's cat
that shit about a bear + woods

put all that together and it explains everything

But, since it's philosophy time:
There are limitations to knowledge at all times.
Man is curious & inventive.
Put that together and it means that man will create a reality based on knowledge gaps, essentially creating a seperate truth from actual reality if necessary.

In other words - observing something changes what actually is happening.  Especially when commenting on it, because of predetermined facts which equates to bias.  The fundamental flaw in the scientific method of reasoning.

I was dumb enough to take nine hours of philosophy class in college...so far I've only used what I've learned on this website.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
Lol------------ Atg
HeavyMetalDave
Metal Godz
+107|7105|California
The Universe is a giant organism living nowhere....
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA
When there was nothing, something existed.  If everything can be explained then there will be no faith.  Did the Universe exist and we happened, or did God exist and he willed it to happen?

Basically what I'm asking is God an egg?
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211

ATG wrote:

Some scientists have tried to argue that if only we knew enough about the laws of physics, if we were to discover a final theory that united all the fundamental forces and particles of nature into a single mathematical scheme, then we would find that this superlaw, or theory of everything, would describe the only logically consistent world. In other words, the nature of the physical world would be entirely a consequence of logical and mathematical necessity. There would be no choice about it.
It's "math heads" trying to find an absolute answer to hard social questions in the way that you are applying it, or that I am sensing from your previous posts and view points. I believe that the way it is being sought after is more for the research and understanding of the universe, not of behaviors.

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