SEREMAKER
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I have done slight upgrades on my other computers but this will be my very first custom-built computer. I'm exicted and hope everything goes smooth. Now I want to do this on a budget and I know I could go bigger but I have money line that I won't cross.
Please post suggest on my best approach to this whole job. I have rebuilt engines in the past so I'm pretty handy with tools.

Case
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/11-129-021-18.jpg

power supply
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/17-116-001-08.jpg

chip
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/19-115-017-03.jpg

motherboard
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/13-121-059-02.jpg

4xmemory
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/20-231-121-02.jpg

hard drive
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/22-136-011-03.jpg

2nd hard drive
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/22-144-122-06.jpg

card reader
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/20-302-003-02.jpg

1st driveDVD Burner
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/27-136-118-02.jpg

2nd driveDVD drive
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/27-106-067-02.jpg

video card
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/14-150-189-07.jpg

sound card
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/29-102-005-08.jpg
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6989|Montucky
Putting the bastard together is easier than rebuilding a 350. Installing the software on the other hand was annoying for me anyway.
SEREMAKER
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yeah software I don't look forward to espically the OS
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6989|Montucky
If you need help let me know, i've built 3 Computers to date.
SEREMAKER
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how does the hardware look
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
BeerzGod
Hooray Beer!
+94|7041|United States
You're on a budget but chose a 150GB Raptor? I would drop that for something else because they're not all they're hyped up to be. 7,500 vs. 10,000 isn't a noticeable change, and despite what a lot of people think, Raptors do not give you any advantages or boost gaming in any way whatsoever. With the extra money you'll save from that, I would suggest getting a more prestigious brand of ram, or a better motherboard. I would also add a CPU cooler to your list because the ones bundled with the Intel chip do not work that well. Other than that, I would say it's a so-so system... good luck to you on your first one.
Darkfire
Helping you help yourself
+34|6949| Texas
the case is very nice i actually just got one for myself and love it
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7210|Toronto | Canada

My (uneducated) opinion is that you should invest in a DX10 card and not waste your money on a DX9 card that will become outdated once DX10 is in use.  Consider it a future investment.

Also, if you do that you might want to get a bigger PSU... 550W
[-DER-]Omega
membeR
+188|7298|Lithuania
Everything on your list is top-of-the-line except for the PSU and GPU.

Given your other hardware choices, you're probably building this rig to prepare for the future generation games, so why not get an 8800GTS/GTX (for the sheer power & DX10) & a PSU such as This

Last edited by [-DER-]Omega (2007-05-21 19:41:07)

https://bf3s.com/sigs/fe717ed1eb823c939460a42f15bced7dd0057c51.png
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7237|Cambridge (UK)
1. Get yourself an antistatic wrist strap (and use it).

2. Install CPU and RAM onto mobo, outside of case.

3. To begin with install mobo (with CPU and RAM), main HDD video card and one CD/DVD drive only into case.

4. Install Windows and make sure mobo, ram, cpu, hdd and video card are all happy.

5. Install sound card, 2nd HDD and other drives all individually and test test test before going on to the next component.

Some utils you might find usefull:

memtest86
Sandra
3DMark and PCMark
Hitatchi Drive Fitness Test (I believe it'll work OK with non-hitatchi drives).

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-05-21 19:42:43)

SEREMAKER
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I was trying to find a good case with good air flow to keep the heat down

and the DX10 card well I havn't heard any prices and so far the only game on DX10 that looks interesting is Crysis
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6989|Montucky

BeerzGod wrote:

You're on a budget but chose a 150GB Raptor? I would drop that for something else because they're not all they're hyped up to be. 7,500 vs. 10,000 isn't a noticeable change, and despite what a lot of people think, Raptors do not give you any advantages or boost gaming in any way whatsoever. With the extra money you'll save from that, I would suggest getting a more prestigious brand of ram, or a better motherboard. I would also add a CPU cooler to your list because the ones bundled with the Intel chip do not work that well. Other than that, I would say it's a so-so system... good luck to you on your first one.
Corsair Ram is recommended by me, and i suggest the same about the Harddrives. I've run XFX graph cards for a year now and I have no complaints.

4 gigs is a bit overkill, i'd go with this for ram.
jsnipy
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+3,277|6993|...

just get a second burner. You are spending the money anyway, get the x-fi with the front panel.
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7237|Cambridge (UK)

SEREMAKER wrote:

yeah software I don't look forward to espically the OS
what OS d'u plan to use? - it's pretty easy - for windows anyhoo - just boot from the CD, make sure you load any SATA drivers if you need them and follow the prompts...
SEREMAKER
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looking around I found this
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/14-121-072-02.jpg
a DirectX 10 card

Last edited by SEREMAKER (2007-05-21 19:48:30)

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7210|Toronto | Canada

What OS are you going with?  4GB with XP really isnt needed, even with Vista I can run anything on max easily with 2GB.  Until later things come out the money from the extra 2GB can be used towards something else.  Do you have everything else?  Mouse?  Speakers?  Keyboard?  Monitor(look up my monitor )?

Oh, and I have that case and its beautiful at night (as in right now).
BeerzGod
Hooray Beer!
+94|7041|United States

SEREMAKER wrote:

I was trying to find a good case with good air flow to keep the heat down

and the DX10 card well I havn't heard any prices and so far the only game on DX10 that looks interesting is Crysis
The DX10 cards are just better, period. Doesn't matter if you're playing any DX10 ultilized games or not, you have to think about what's coming out in the next few months. So the question is do you spend a little bit more money right now to save yourself money in the future or not? 4GB of ram is also very overkill... Windows only supports 3GB doesn't it?? 2GB is more than enough to run anything and everything, but if you want more, just get 3GB instead, and it'll save you more money. I would also recommend not getting a PSU any less than 700W, but that's just a personal opinion. I'd rather have more than enough power to feed to my components than there be the slightest chance that anything is starved of juice.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7210|Toronto | Canada

SEREMAKER wrote:

looking around I found this
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ … 072-02.jpg
a DirectX 10 card
go with 8800GTS or GTX - far better bang for your buck
jsnipy
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+3,277|6993|...

Actually when you go to the os, slip all of your drivers, setup info in on one shot ... http://www.nliteos.com/  easy
SEREMAKER
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I was thinkin Vista 64 bit but I'm not sure with all these complaints I've heard
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7210|Toronto | Canada

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130082
Look there 8800GTS 320MB with a combo deal for an 850W PSU
SEREMAKER
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Hows this one
https://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/14-130-082-10.jpg

Last edited by SEREMAKER (2007-05-21 19:58:11)

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SEREMAKER
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oh can a DX10 8800GTS card run in a XP m.c., INTEL Pent.D 3.0 Ghz, 2 GB RAM ??????
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7237|Cambridge (UK)

SEREMAKER wrote:

I was thinkin Vista 64 bit but I'm not sure with all these complaints I've heard
If you've got the cash, buy Vista Ultimate Retail (not OEM) - then you get both 32bit and 64bit - 32bit Vista is a little more stable, but 64bit is what you want for the future.

Oh, and don't listen to the people saying "don't get 4GB ram" - they're right in that you'll almost certainly not need it right now, but I can guarantee that if you do only get 2GB you'll be wishing you'd bought 4 within a year - particularly if you go with 64bit Vista.


Oh, and regarding DX10 - DX10 cards will work with XP, just not as DX10 cards - it'll work as DX9 only - for DX10 you need Vista.
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|7113|Deep In The South Of Texas
Here's what I'd change:

PSU: Corsair HX520W
Well built PSU with plenty of amps(40 total on the 12V)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB
x2 in RAID0

Video Card: EVGA 8800GTS
DX10

Sound: X-Fi XtremeGamer
I have the Fatal1ty Pro, and it's really not worth the extra $$ compared to the regular XtremeGamer

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