Athlon64 X2's using S939? Plus some help on building my new system

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2007-05-22 08:54:53

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

Hello, its me again, I havent been on BF2s for ages but most of you probably dont even know me anyways.

Anyways, I want to upgrade my current system, specs are as follows:

ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE (Socket 939, nForce 4 SLI)
Athlon64 3500+ @ 2,2Ghz
6800 Ultra @ 425/2100
4x80GB HDD
GEIL 2x512MB Dual Channel DDR400 @ Stock speeds, frequencys and timings.
2THEMAX ( HK BRAND) 480W PSU

So there you have it, my current system, just about 1 year and 9 months old. I want to upgrade some stuff so it isnt as slow, games now are taking advantage of dual-core and im still on a single core. Piece of crap now, but back then it was top-notch. Anyways I was wondering if any of you know of any socket 939 X2's i can buy. I live in hong kong so buying stuff wouldnt be so easy and therfore there is no newegg and sadly, I dont do e-bay or any online transfers either. So it would be great if you guys could recommend any Socket 939 X2's for me.

Along side with the CPU upgrade (if possible), I will upgrade to 2Gb Dual CHannel and just get a single WD320GB HDD to lessen the heat in my case. I will also be upgrading to a 600-700W PSU. Other than that I have one more thing I hope you guys can help out.

As you can see, my specs arent exactly brand new and I have trouble with BF2 on high mainly because I do not have enough wattage to power my OC'ed GPU. So these are my new specs:

ASUS Striker Extreme
Core 2 DUo E6600 and OC it to 3.2 at 8*400
Corsair PC26400 2 x 1GB Dual Channel @ 400
ASUS EN 8800GTX
WDCavair SE WD7500AAKS 750GB
2 Lite On LH20AIH DVD Burners
XFI Extreme Gamer
CM extreme power pro 850W
Antec Nine Hundred
Scythe Infinity with quad fan setup or Zalman CNPS9700
Any random card reader
Evercool Rocket V GPU cooler
Altec Lansing Model 251 5.1 Speakers
Logitech diNovo Bluetooth Desktop
Dell E228WFP 22" Widescreen 1680x1050

I was wondering if you guys had any feedback on that new system, I might also wait till the Q3 price drop so i can get myself a C2Q 6600 quad core at acheaper and more affordable price. If you think that any compontent is not worth it please let me know and give me some alternative choises. Thanks folks in advance, talk to you guys soon.

~JaM

PS: All currencies in HK are 7.8USD:1HKD and around 15Pounds:1HKD but stuff here seems to be alot cheaper than those I see in the US and Canada. My system costs a total of ~19000HKD.

wooops currencies r the other way round thx for pointing tat out ninja

Last edited by JaMrulezass (2007-05-23 04:57:37)

2007-05-22 08:57:36

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|7036|Area 51

I believe the X2's are all AM2 of Socket F. New rig looks pretty awesom to me. I'm not a PC expert but it looks awesome

2007-05-22 08:59:06

Villain{NY}: Banned; +44|6815|New York

I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.

2007-05-22 09:01:57

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7187

Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.

X2 3800+ and all that...

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2007-05-22 09:10:31

Villain{NY}: Banned; +44|6815|New York

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...

The FX-60 was the last and best AMD Dual Core for the 939 right?

2007-05-22 09:14:43

Kbo_Marquez: Member; +0|6934

Villain{NY} wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...
The FX-60 was the last and best AMD Dual Core for the 939 right?

i think so...

2007-05-22 09:24:38

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7052|SE London

You really don't need an 850W PSU for that setup. Even if you were to get another card to run in SLI you'd be fine on less than that. 750W is ample for 8800GTXs in SLI, even if you were considering doing that, otherwise a 600W PSU would be plenty for you.

2007-05-22 09:52:49

Stormscythe: Aiming for the head; +88|7020|EUtopia | Austria

Villain{NY} wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...
The FX-60 was the last and best AMD Dual Core for the 939 right?

negatory. Opteron series blow the FX-60

2007-05-22 12:30:35

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7038|NYC / Hamburg

Stormscythe wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

X2 3800+ and all that...
The FX-60 was the last and best AMD Dual Core for the 939 right?
negatory. Opteron series blow the FX-60

amen

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2007-05-23 01:31:19

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...

Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

And thanks a lot Berster7, however, ive read many reviews recommending a 600 for a GTS and most say that you should need a 700 minimum for a GTX, especially if you're overclocking. So I'll rethink that issue, plus, getting a 850W is much more future-proof in my opinion as newer cards get more and more power hungry. My 6800U OC is a pain in the ass when it comes down to power consumption.

Last edited by JaMrulezass (2007-05-23 05:00:24)

2007-05-23 04:01:02

Stormscythe: Aiming for the head; +88|7020|EUtopia | Austria

JaMrulezass wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...
Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103002
Take this one, it should be sufficient for all of your desires.

2007-05-23 04:25:25

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7187

JaMrulezass wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Villain{NY} wrote:
I believe the only AMD dual core made for the 939 was the FX-60.
X2 3800+ and all that...
Sweet... does that mean i can get an X2 6000+ as well? And one more question too, are 939 X2's rare or very common, because I cant seem to find any which is frustrating or maybe I'm going to have order them.

And thanks a lot Berster7, however, ive read many reviews recommending a 600 for a GTS and most say that you should need a 700 minimum for a GTX, especially if you're overclocking. So I'll rethink that issue, plus, getting a 850W is much more future in my opinion as newer cards get more and more power hungry. My 6800U OC is a pain in the ass when it comes down to power consumption.

4800+ is the highest. I don't see why you should upgrade your old system.

2007-05-23 04:36:29

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

Opteron thanks, I sure will consider.

And thanks for telling me the highest cyborg ninja, by the way, i needa upgrade because my single core 3500+ is slow at some stuff especially when it comes to encode a movie on Nero, a full length 2 hour movie takes around 1 and a 1/2 hours to encode which is just frustrating. Right now, I might either chose a Opteron or a 939 x2 4000+ coming in at 2.0Ghz with the 2Mb Cache, i really dont wanna overclock my old system and I think itll be fine that will, I'll just overclock my 6800 Ultra, anyways, thanks for the help guys. O yeah, anyone got comments on my upcoming rig? Some people say that the Samsung 226BW is outstanding, but some say that the Dell 22" one is perfectly fine, which one should I choose?

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2007-05-23 04:48:03

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7187

Opteron, higher OC's since they're made especially for servers (more care )

2007-05-23 04:54:15

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

I guess i can get an Opteron and OC it but the most likely scenario is that when I get my new gaming rig I'll probably just leave this old one and never touch it again. Hehe. I'm considering if its even worth upgrading it since 2 computers isn't actually that useful. I've also got a friend who specializes in building computers for people as a living and just recently, I gave him my other spare computer parts.

However, I didnt give him my other set of keyboards, which means I'll have a left over keyboard, an extra set of Logitech 2.1's, 2 17" LCD (considering I give away my computer) and yet another set of Altec Lansing speakers. Maybe I could run Tri-screen since I'm already on dual right now. But crap, the 8800GTX only supports 2 screens, is it possible to run an 8800GTX and a 6800ULTRA together? MOst preferbly in SLI? So then I get 4 DVI Ports? Or should i just give away this 6800Ultra too and buy one of those PCI-E Cards with DVI Outputs?

2007-05-23 04:56:52

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7187

About running 8800 and 6800 together.... Not gonna happen. You can always get a monitor adapter to run more screens though.

2007-05-23 05:02:49

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
About running 8800 and 6800 together.... Not gonna happen. You can always get a monitor adapter to run more screens though.

Roger, thanks alot.

BTW, anyone tried out the Scythe Infinity with quad fan setup? Or should i trust Zalman,the CNPS 9700? Also, I might be pushing the limits of the 6600 by going to 9*400, although my lengthy research has shown that some people cannot get it up to that speed, system refuses to boot but the 3.2 is definately possible.

2007-05-23 05:05:23

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

And also another question, performace-wise, which is better? 2 320's in raid 0 or 1 750GB HDD?

2007-05-23 05:08:34

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7187

JaMrulezass wrote:
And also another question, performace-wise, which is better? 2 320's in raid 0 or 1 750GB HDD?

RAID 0 if you know how to set it up.

2007-05-23 05:12:17

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

Yup, I can do raid, with the help of some people, thanks a lot. Anyone here tried those aftermarket coolers tho? I've read all those reviews and by the looks of test results, the 9700 seems like shit compared to the big typhoon and the scythe infinity and ninja.

2007-05-23 12:27:34

Profitteroles: Member; +11|6709|Dartford

Why dont you just buy a 939 x2 processor another 1gig of ram and a 8800 will be a much cheaper option for similar performance

2007-05-23 12:32:13

Darkfire: Helping you help yourself; +34|6949| Texas

the nine hundred is very nice, i just got one

not a big deal but id throw in another Antec(so it matches) 120 mm blue LED fan for the side of the case, it just doesn't look "complete" with out it

2007-05-23 12:46:17

Teknoir: Member; +5|7117|St. Paul, Minnesota

With that system board and configuration your best bet would be to go with the AMD FX-60 processor. They used be around $1100!! Now you can get them dirt cheap! AND, they are still AWESOME processors!

What's more, you'll stretch the life of your PC by a couple more years. I've been using that processor now for over a year and love it!

I did push my memory up to to 2 gigs of high-end RAM though. (DDR400 of course)

The only deficency with the FX-60 I would say is in overclocking. I've pushed it to 2.8 ghz, but didn't see THAT much in the way of improved speed. A little, but not enought to justify overheating it.

As far as your RAID question... that's totally up to you. You would see a little bit of a performance boast from 2, 320 gig drives Striped. (RAID 0). Problem is if you lose one drive, you've lost both effectively. But then again, if you lost your 750 gig HDD, you're in the same boat!! Just remember you need SATA HDDs to set up the RAID. If you can... give it a shot. If nothing else for the expereince of doing it. it's a little extra work, but worth it I think.

Just depends on how valuable your data is. I go into building a PC knowing my HDD will fail eventually and plan accordingly with a back-up plan.

2007-05-23 12:50:33

Teknoir: Member; +5|7117|St. Paul, Minnesota

OH.... I also might add I'm using two PCI-E GeForce 7800 GT OC graphics cards (SLI enabled). I've seen them at around $200-$250 each now. Still work really well with everything I play.

2007-05-23 22:57:01

JaMrulezass: Member; +47|6935|Hong Kong

Profitteroles wrote:
Why dont you just buy a 939 x2 processor another 1gig of ram and a 8800 will be a much cheaper option for similar performance

True, but my system is nera obselete, with my new system however, i can upgrade that to quad core easily in the future if i so wish.

But with my current system, i cant even upgrade to DDR2! and DDR3 is coming out. And anyways, my A8NSLID has some problems with not being able to handle 3 or more sticks of ram, when i tried 4 x 512 or even 3 x 512, it would startup and go beeep! "System failed memory test", search it up on google and you'll know what i mean.

I could upgrade to 2 x 1 GB which will hopefully work but I dont think its worth it if I' getting a new system afterall but however, I do need to upgrade my PSU, most likely to an Antec True Power Trio 650W, heard some good effiency ratings out of it.

And plus, I'm a bit of a fanboy I'm on the Intel side but however, i have nothing against AMD, its just that conroes kick the crap out of the X2's (whatever codename they are).

And thanks for the RAID advice Teknoir, I've just changed my mind and i will be running 2 320's. I really dont mind data lost that much as I always mate a backup either on DVDs or my USB Drive so I guess RAID 0 is the way to go for me. And also, I dont actually think I would even like to run SLI or Crossfire unless I have to, the newest top-notch card will always be better than its last gen's top notch cards in SLI. I mean the 7950GX2 in quad SLI is on par and sometimes below a single 8800 GTX so theres no need to even talk about the ripoff, the 8800 Ultra.

Finally, Yes Darkfire, the nine hundred seems sweet to me those of you who dont have it, I suggest you check out one of those video reviews, search em up on Youtube easily.

So yeah, i guess i dont really wanna upgrade my current system, its going to become obselete in another year or so. And just incase you ask, although the Striker Extreme has SLI capability and I dont like SLI, I'm still getting that Mobo as reviews are awesome, bundles up with GRAW (and my EN8800GTX will bundle with a copy of Mark06, GTI Racing and yet another copy of GRAW) and that the SE has some sweet ass nice overclocking feautre, on-board LEDS and so on.

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