BF2S Forums Poll for dedicated commanders

Load up my macro, and spam "page up/page down" for a few minutes.

Trying to outkill the enemy without taking any flags will usually lead to a loss.  You have to be really really dominant to have, for example, only one uncap flag, and defeat an enemy who has all the other flags, and all their CO resources and armour and cars and choppers etc.

To get the team to change, I'll try a combination of lecturing/hectoring combined with how I use the Commander assets.  Biggest barrier here is what I have always considered a weakness in the BF2 game, namely the lack of a useful "chat" area.  Our messages, even if we take the time to type them out, are displayed in the same portion of the screen as all other in-game messages, and can be quickly scolled off the screen by someone spamming "Yes sir yes sir" or "I need a medic here."

Anyway, try typing to the team and using VOIP to squad leaders.  Tell them they will lose if they do not take some flags.  And then use your Commander assets to support them.  Instead of constantly dropping UAV and supplies in the area where that useless tank is spawn-killing, show them the empty flags with UAV.  "Order" a squad to take a particular flag.

Joining the action and fighting, or taking the flags yourself, is as always your last resort.  Commanders should not fight, unless it is to defend a base, or if it is 16-size map.  However, if you fly into a rage and absolutely can't stand it anymore, and have to take a flag...take someone with you.  If you go alone, good enemy Commander will spot you and arty you before you cap the flag. 

If the team refuses to listen, in the dying minutes of the round, get on the chat board again and remind them of why they lost.  Then try again in the next round.  If they still don't listen, and still stand around the meatgrinder of the first flag, you might as well find another server.  Either you are a bad Commander, or you just have a bad team that cannot be saved.  It happens.  Move on.

Oh, and I wouldn't use the 2nd option in the poll, dropping arty on your own troops.  Just because people do not understand how to win is no reason to TK them.

I usually will just move on to another server or the other team.  If they won't play because they are too busy sniping or whatever, time to get on a team that is ready to play as a team, instead of just kills and/or pts.

I try not to get into that problem. If my team is crap from the previous round I won't command them. It feels pointless commanding a crappy team - like I'm doing all the work with no reward.

I usually send squads that appear to be clan guys on the important jobs, since they tend to work together better.

If that doesn't work, I Fortify my position and await the inevitable base-rapetastic finale.

In this order:

1. Tell the team to start getting flags
2. Give orders to a few squads
3. Start getting flags myself

Samtheman53 wrote:

Have a big go at them and get kicked for swearing

.been there ,done that,got the t-shirt

YOUR LANGUAGE IS UNACCEPTABLE DUNC

.for f***s sake,its a f***ing war,so f*** you admin ,stop being such a prick and take a f***ing flag

KICKED

and whats wrong with tea?,drink of champions,more caffeine than coffee

Being the passive observer-type commander (Find a hole, sit in it, direct the battle from there), it would normally be along the lines of rebuke and type angrily at the squads until bored of it, and then go to trying to kill as many of the enemy as possible with the arty to up my KDR, before leaving the server before I lose.

On another note, which one of you idiots wrote the guide advising people to hunt down the enemy commander and stab him? That keeps happening to me lately.

Samtheman53 wrote:

Have a big go at them and get kicked for swearing

, Yea, i forgot that one !   It happens; some teams ....

I use a lot of the options i mentioned, but not all in the same round of course.
The rampage - while being in command - is a cool way to let off the steam; some call it "leading by example", hehe. Much better than arty on your own troops indeed.

A small pop-up window for what is typed by the commander- just below  the minimap (upper right of screen- would be nice to give it more visibility; i.e. only 1 pop-up in 5 minutes to avoid spam.
Or just a display of the typed command text in orange ? (DICE , are you listening? lol)

Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2007-05-23 16:12:54)

I keep on UAVing and Scanning for the team. When we are pushing them back, I'd say, "Go, go, go!".

WinterWayfarer wrote:

I keep on UAVing and Scanning for the team. When we are pushing them back, I'd say, "Go, go, go!".

Yes ! The SAS commander in SF can do that (commo-rose), it sounds like a barking dog: KOW-KOW-KOW

Last edited by MajorHoulahan_MASH (2007-05-23 16:18:13)

rambo style alone ftw. sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. couple times my team has won thanks to my last minute rush+flag cap.