Cougar
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Good little read here.  I really don't see how anyone could support this president after the past 6 years have passed.  Love of one's country does not mean love of one's president.  Only fools think like that.

Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. wrote:

Ralph Waldo Emerson said it best, "The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons." And no administration in U.S. history has spoken louder, or as often, of its honor.

So let us count our spoons.

Emergency Management: They completely failed to manage the first large-scale emergency since 9/11. Despite all their big talk and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on homeland security over the past four years, this administration proved itself stunningly incompetent when faced with an actual emergency. (Katrina Relief Funds Squandered)

Fiscal Management: America is broke. No wait, we're worse than broke. In less than five years these borrow and spend-thrifts have nearly doubled our national debt, to a stunning $8.2 trillion. These are not your father's Republicans who treated public dollars as though they were an endangered species. These Republicans waste money in ways and in quantities that make those old tax and spend liberals of yore look like tight-fisted Scots.

This administration is so incompetent that you can just throw a dart at the front page of your morning paper and whatever story of importance it hits will prove my point.

Katrina relief: Eleven thousand spanking new mobile homes sinking into the Arkansas mud. Seems no one in the administration knew there were federal and state laws prohibiting trailers in flood zones. Oops. That little mistake cost you $850 million -- and counting.

Medicare Drug Program: This $50 billion white elephant debuted by trampling many of those it was supposed to save. The mess forced states to step in and try to save its own citizens from being killed by the administration's poorly planned and executed attempt to privatize huge hunks of the federal health safety net.

Afghanistan: Good managers know that in order to pocket the gains of a project, you have to finish it. This administration started out fine in Afghanistan. They had the Taliban and al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden trapped in a box canyon. Then they were distracted by a nearby shiney object -- Iraq. We are now $75 billion out of pocket in Afghanistan and its sitting president still rules only within the confines of the nation's capital. Tribal warlords, the growing remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda call the shots in the rest of the county.

Iraq: This ill-begotten war was supposed to only cost us $65 billion. It has now cost us over $300 billion and continues to suck $6 billion a month out of our children's futures. Meanwhile the three warring tribes Bush "liberated" are using our money and soldiers' lives to partition the country. The Shiites and Kurds are carving out the prime cuts while treating the once-dominant Sunnis the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinians, forcing them onto Iraq's version of Death Valley. Meanwhile Iran is increasingly calling the shots in the Shiite region as mullahs loyal to Iran take charge.

Iran: The administration not only jinxed its Afghanistan operations by attacking Iraq, but also provided Iran both the rationale for and time to move toward nuclear weapons. The Bush administration's neocons' threats to attack Syria next only provided more support for religious conservatives within Iran who argued U.S. intentions in the Middle East were clear, and that only the deterrent that comes with nuclear weapons could protect them.

North Korea: Ditto. Also add to all the above the example North Korea set for Iran. Clearly once a country possesses nukes, the U.S. drops the veiled threats and wants to talk.

Social Programs: It's easier to get affordable -- even free -- American-style medical care, paid for with American dollars, if you are injured in Iraq, Afghanistan or are victims of a Pakistani earthquake, than if you live and pay taxes in the good old U.S.A. Nearly 50 million Americans can't afford medical insurance. Nevertheless the administration has proposed a budget that will cut $40 billion from domestic social programs, including health care for the working poor. The administration is quick to say that those services will be replaced by its "faith-based" programs. Not so fast...    "Despite the Bush administration's rhetorical support for religious charities, the amount of direct federal grants to faith-based organizations declined from 2002 to 2004, according to a major new study released yesterday....The study released yesterday "is confirmation of the suspicion I've had all along, that what the faith-based initiative is really all about is de-funding social programs and dumping responsibility for the poor on the charitable sector," said Kay Guinane, director of the nonprofit advocacy program at OMB Watch.."

The Military: Overused and over-deployed.

    Former Defense Secretary William Perry and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright warned in a 15-page report that the Army and Marine Corps cannot sustain the current operational tempo without "doing real damage to their forces." ... Speaking at a news conference to release the study, Albright said she is "very troubled" the military will not be able to meet demands abroad. Perry warned that the strain, "if not relieved, can have highly corrosive and long-term effects on the military. (More)

With military budgets gutted by the spiraling costs of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the administration has requested funding for fewer National Guard troops in fiscal 2007 -- 17,000 fewer. Which boggles the sane mind since, if it weren't for reserve/National Guard, the administration would not have had enough troops to rotate forces in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 40 percent of the troops sent to those two countries were from the reserve and National Guard.

The Environment: Here's a little pop quiz: What happens if all the coral in the world's oceans dies? Answer: Coral is the first rung on the food-chain ladder; so when it goes, everything else in the ocean dies. And if the oceans die, we die.

The coral in the world's oceans are dying (called "bleaching") at an alarming and accelerating rate. Global warming is the culprit. Nevertheless, this administration continues as the world's leading global warming denier. Why? Because they seem to feel it's more cost effective to be dead than to force reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. How stupid is that? And time is running out.

Trade: We are approaching a $1 trillion annual trade deficit, most of it with Asia, $220 billion with just China -- just last year.

Energy: Record high energy prices. Record energy company profits. Dick Cheney's energy task force meetings remain secret. Need I say more?

Consumers: Americans finally did it last year -- they achieved a negative savings rate. (Folks in China save 10 percent, for contrast.) If the government can spend more than it makes and just say "charge it" when it runs out, so can we. The average American now owes $9,000 to credit card companies. Imagine that.

Human Rights: America now runs secret prisons and a secret judicial system that would give Kafka fits. And the U.S. has joined the list of nations that tortures prisioners of war. (Shut up George! We have pictures!)

I could go on for another 1,000 words listing the stunning incompetence of the Bush administration and its GOP sycophants in Congress. But what's the use? No seems to give a fig. The sun continues to shine in this fool's paradise. House starts were up in January. The stock market is finally back over 11,000.

But don't bother George W. Bush with any of this. While seldom right, he is never in doubt. Doubt is Bush's enemy. Worry? How can he worry when he has no doubts?
You may have seen this image in the other thread:
https://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.png

And if you have any doubts or would like to challenge that by talking a bunch of BS about the GDP, check this out:
https://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/debt_gdp.png

Also, here is a nice chart showing the national debt adjusted for inflation up to 2005:
https://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/inflation.gif

And finally, Bush keeps talking his jive about how we are coming out ahead in the war and all, but it seems odd to me that when we supposedly "won" we spent less money and lost fewer lives than after we "helped rebuild" the country.
https://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Iraq-war-cost.gif


YES FEARLESS LEADER, YOU MAY DO NO WRONG!!!
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So, again, I have no fucking clue why ANYONE, would dislike our fearless Czar.
Marlboroman82
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like wed read that, btw why does mman always reply first to everyone of your threads
Marlboroman82
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surgeon_bond wrote:

like wed read that, btw why does mman always reply first to everyone of your threads
because cougars threads are the only ones i ever read
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Zukabazuka
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Duh its his secondary acount =P

But I still can't believe how USA elected him the second time.
Marlboroman82
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Zukabazuka wrote:

Duh its his secondary acount =P

But I still can't believe how USA elected him the second time.
what? i chose the lesser of two evils. john kerry is a gutless prick
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UnknownRanger
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Marlboroman82 wrote:

jesus
mtb0minime
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Marlboroman82 wrote:

Zukabazuka wrote:

Duh its his secondary acount =P

But I still can't believe how USA elected him the second time.
what? i chose the lesser of two evils. john kerry is a gutless prick
QFT. Bush > Kerry, only slightly.
Cougar
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surgeon_bond wrote:

like wed read that, btw why does mman always reply first to everyone of your threads
But you will take time to reply.  Brilliance.
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Bush wtfpwns everyone.
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oChaos.Haze
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True that.  I tend to have both liberal and conservative views, and Bush plays to NEITHER.  Our government is HUGE, and is spending vast amounts of money, removing rights one at a time, and possibly spying on us as well.  None of which fit into the true republican theme.  And as for liberal acts, well obviously he doesn't do that.

Like when it comes to the military, I'm conservative.  I think bigger and badder is better.  When it comes to an individual's rights, I'm liberal.

I think liberals and conservatives are closer than we think.  The American people have been played like a fiddle by this administration.  Their goal seems to me to be to drive a wedge between the two sides.  To create a void where noone knows exactly what to think, or how to act to stop it.  We just bicker amongst ourselves, rather than standing up and bickering with the people who decide for us. 

Think about it.  Besides the 4 or 5 "flash point" arguments, ie abortion, gay rights, gun control, and so on, we all want pretty much the same thing.  To be left alone, feel safe, have some personal freedom to do and say as we want, and have some cash in our pocket.  A conservative can still want to provide help to the homeless, and a liberal can still think guns are a good idea.  In fact, I think that most Americans, fall into the gray area in the middle where even if you don't agree with something, you are fine with letting other people do it.

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2007-05-24 11:46:20)

usmarine
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UnknownRanger wrote:

Marlboroman82 wrote:

jesus
Lotta_Drool
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Gwb -ftl

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2007-05-24 11:48:18)

unnamednewbie13
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Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
Lotta_Drool
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
They can spend 300+ Billion rebuilding a country full of people that hate the US and manage to do nothing about the border with Mexico.
usmarine
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
They can spend 300+ Billion rebuilding a country full of people that hate the US and manage to do nothing about the border with Mexico.
It is not full of people who hate the US, but since you have been there, I guess you know that.

Also, the border has been an issue before most of you were born, this is not a new thing.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-05-24 12:00:55)

specops10-4
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Huh, before this thread I have always felt bad for Bush a bit when people started bashing him.  Now I have no sympathy.
Lotta_Drool
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
They can spend 300+ Billion rebuilding a country full of people that hate the US and manage to do nothing about the border with Mexico.
It is not full of people who hate the US, but since you have been there, I guess you know that.

Also, the border has been an issue before most of you were born, this is not a new thing.
The Republicans had the Senate, Congress, and Whitehouse and did nothing after running on the Illegal Imigration issue.

If Iraq is not full of people that hate the US, then why do our troops get attacked and the people doing have the ability to disappear among the population?

Last edited by Lotta_Drool (2007-05-24 12:04:29)

usmarine
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

If Iraq is not full of people that hate the US, then why do our troops get attacked and the people doing have the ability to disappear among the population?
Because a lot of them are not even Iraqis.  And it is easy to blend since they speak and dress the same.
sharpshot19
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
They can spend 300+ Billion rebuilding a country full of people that hate the US and manage to do nothing about the border with Mexico.
It is not full of people who hate the US, but since you have been there, I guess you know that.

Also, the border has been an issue before most of you were born, this is not a new thing.
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

If Iraq is not full of people that hate the US, then why do our troops get attacked and the people doing have the ability to disappear among the population?
Because a lot of them are not even Iraqis.  And it is easy to blend since they speak and dress the same.
Not to mention the general fear the insurgents have instilled into the Iraqi people when they (iraqi people) help U.S. Troops out in any way shape or form.  Car bombs that kill 40 some Iraqi people aren't just innocent bystanders, they were made an example by the insurgents as to what happens when you help out those boys'n'girls in desert cammies.
usmarine
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Cougar wrote:

Stephen Pizzo, News for Real.
http://www.newsforreal.com/

And you bitch about Fox?  WTF is this site?
KEN-JENNINGS
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yes, of course US presidents have the omnipotent ability to dramatically shift climate and economics during their term. And people say we shouldn't worship them or the flag.
No, but they do the bidding of the people that actually care.  Georgy probably just wants to sit back, eat some pretzels, watch TV, and play with some MicroMachines.  Rove, King George I, Cheney, Corporate Interests, Military/Industry Interests, etc. all make sure Georgy does the best he can to fulfill their personal/political desires.

And yes, Bush demanding billions of dollars (not going in the troops pockets) for the war while insisting on tax cuts definitely shifts the economy.
ghettoperson
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Stephen Pizzo, News for Real.
http://www.newsforreal.com/

And you bitch about Fox?  WTF is this site?
Most of those figures in that article look fairly familiar really, doesn't too me too like he pulled them out of his ass.
usmarine
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ghettoperson wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Stephen Pizzo, News for Real.
http://www.newsforreal.com/

And you bitch about Fox?  WTF is this site?
Most of those figures in that article look fairly familiar really, doesn't too me too like he pulled them out of his ass.
I know.  But if someone posted something from FOX....

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