boozie
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I have $1200-1500 that I was looking to spend on a new computer at ibuypower.  I already have a monitor.

Things I'm leaning towards:
E6420
nvidia 8800 gts 320 mb (not getting sli)
windows xp
2 gig of ram - probably just getting corsair that they offer.

Major questions:
What's a good mobo that they offer to keep me in my price range (NO OC'ING, sli not needed but I don't care if it's on it)
I was leaning towards thermaltake armor jr, but need to know what psu should I get?
Is staying xp for now while leaving the possiblity of upgrading to vista down the road a good idea?

I am not very good at troubleshooting computers so I like the way ibuypower works.  Piecing it together on my own is cheaper sure, but I save time and effort this way so please help me out while staying within the restraints of their website.  Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
link52787
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what mobo are they offering you as the choices?
boozie
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The ones that seem to be closest to my price range are:

Asus P5N-E SLI nForceĀ® 650i SLI
MSI P6N SLI-F nForce 650i SLI Chipset
MSI P965 Neo-F i965P

They claim the thermaltake armor jr comes w/ a 420 watt psu, but I'm not sure if the replacements are any better quality wise because I don't know what's in it.

I'm not sure if it'd be worth upgrading to
500 Watt -- NZXT PF-500 Power Supply

or not.
link52787
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here are the reviews on the boards:

Asus:

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Asu … _650i_SLI/

MSI P6N:

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1092/m … index.html

MSI P965

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardw … _platinum/

With first hand experience I only dealt with the P965 chipsets so my opinion will lead me to pick the MSI P965.
boozie
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Can anyone explain the differences between

MSI P6N SLI-F
MSI P6N SLI-FI
MSI P6N SLI-platinum

I can't even find a sli-f on their website =/ and I dont' know what the F or the I stand for anyways.

edit:

F = gigabit ethernet
I = firewire
platinum = high end platform, can anyone go into further detail?
I'm assuming that means like better cooling on the board and possibly a better OC'er.

So ibuypower lists it as "MSI P6N SLI-F nForce 650i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, PCI-E MB"

Isn't IEEE 1394 firewire??? 

I read a good review of ibuypower.com at tomshardware which I assumed to be a pretty decent place since it was linked from newegg.  Is it safe to get a computer from these guys?

Last edited by boozie (2007-05-24 06:07:49)

heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6859|New York

boozie wrote:

Can anyone explain the differences between

MSI P6N SLI-F
MSI P6N SLI-FI
MSI P6N SLI-platinum

I can't even find a sli-f on their website =/ and I dont' know what the F or the I stand for anyways.

edit:

F = gigabit ethernet
I = firewire
platinum = high end platform, can anyone go into further detail?
I'm assuming that means like better cooling on the board and possibly a better OC'er.

So ibuypower lists it as "MSI P6N SLI-F nForce 650i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, PCI-E MB"

Isn't IEEE 1394 firewire??? 

I read a good review of ibuypower.com at tomshardware which I assumed to be a pretty decent place since it was linked from newegg.  Is it safe to get a computer from these guys?
IEEE firewire is resident on the board. Basically, when there is a massive list like that, it tells you what is resident on the board.

I don't know anything about ibuypower.com, but the platinum mobo is pretty sexy.

The platinum mobo overclocks well, and the main difference I can see between this board and the FI board is that this one supports quad core, while FI doesn't. Seems like a pretty standard board other than that.
If you don't have the details: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813130081

Also, look at the pictures to get an idea of what the rear IO panel looks like.
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Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|7020|EUtopia | Austria
Meh, don't buy there, by far too expensive. Building a PC should be no problem for anybody capable of reading intructions and using his common sense!
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7218|The United Center
Do not buy from ibuypower.

According to pretty much every review about them, one of two things will happen.

1. You get the exact computer you asked for, in mint condition, and you never have to contact their customer service department.  You are happy.

2. You get the exact computer you asked for, broken right out of the box.  You cannot fix the computer yourself because it voids the warranty.  You have to send in (and pay for shipping) your new computer and wait upwards of three months for it to come back, if they even choose to fix it for you.  Your computer was possibly built with parts that failed quality assurance testing from the manufacturer, hence why you were able to get it at such a low cost.  Essentially, you are unhappy...and out of $1500.

Seriously.  Read up on that company.  I was going to buy a machine from them but decided to read some reviews...and now I'm definitely glad I didn't use them.  Apparently your chance of success with them hovers around 50%, which, in my honest opinion, is not nearly high enough when you'll be spending that kind of money.
boozie
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Stormscythe wrote:

Meh, don't buy there, by far too expensive. Building a PC should be no problem for anybody capable of reading intructions and using his common sense!
Here's the thing, sure I can play kinex and I can read.  ~$100-$300 bucks to save me TIME and HASSLE is more than worth it by far.  I loathe troubleshooting computers.  I can put everything together all fine and dandy but when it doesn't turn on I'm screwed and likely to give myself an ulcer.  I have no experience w/ this and frankly don't feel like stressing myself out gaining any.  Give me something that does what I want and I'll pay for it.

So now I'm back to the drawing board it sounds like.  Does anyone actually have a good website where I can customize my computer and expect to get a working product for a *decent* price?

What about tigerdirect.  I know I can piece together somethign at a nearby warehouse but will I pay a ton getting it built for me?  I bet they charge $100 bucks just to install the OS =/.

Anyone else here have any experience at ibuypower?

edit:
The review was not at tomshardware it was at anandtech.com
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdo … 29&p=1

I guess they got the good side of the coin flip?  This place seemed very ideal for me assuming I get a working product.

Last edited by boozie (2007-05-24 07:56:20)

heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6859|New York
Try unitedmicro.com.

I got my current rig from there, before I knew how to build computers.
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boozie
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Is there anywhere reliable online that I can buy a mobo/cpu that's been tested together?  My biggest fear is pretty much mounting the cpu.  Easy for some of you probably, but I don't want to screw with it.  And it'd be nice to know that's not why the computer isn't working when I do run into problems building my own.  I've heard of like monarch before but I can't find them online anywhere.
link52787
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boozie wrote:

Is there anywhere reliable online that I can buy a mobo/cpu that's been tested together?  My biggest fear is pretty much mounting the cpu.  Easy for some of you probably, but I don't want to screw with it.  And it'd be nice to know that's not why the computer isn't working when I do run into problems building my own.  I've heard of like monarch before but I can't find them online anywhere.
mwave.com I think.

you have to pay a small fee but they will test compatibility.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7008|Long Island, New York
Just build your own. That's what I'm doing.

It's not hard at all.
boozie
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Poseidon wrote:

Just build your own. That's what I'm doing.

It's not hard at all.
I already covered this....
The_Killer
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This is a good site my Friend got a comp from here hasn't had a single problem.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

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