BF2S Forums Purdue researchers announce new "instant" hydrogen techology for cars

OrangeHound wrote:

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/New_Process_Generates_Hydrogen_from_Aluminum_Alloy_To_Run_Engines_And_Fuel_Cells_999.html

Oh how I want a hydrogen alternative to gas powered vehicles ... is this the solution to producing hydrogen in the quantities we need?  Or, another cold-fusion?

Still not as cost efficient as fossile fuels but very interesting for the future .....

It's more efficient than being held hostage by the Royal family. I think Americans would be willing to bear it (If they really thought about the consequences of not doing so).  It is the bottom line business that won't have it. Cut overseas military expenditures and the billions of dollars we feel we have to donate to Israel (Israel will still exist without our charity). That might allow for considerable tax breaks to balance the cost. In the long run not only would this make Americans more secure it might even be more economical.

Kmarion wrote:

It's more efficient than being held hostage by the Royal family. I think Americans would be willing to bear it (If they really thought about the consequences of not doing so).  It is the bottom line business that won't have it. Cut overseas military expenditures and the billions of dollars we feel we have to donate to Israel (Israel will still exist without our charity). That might allow for considerable tax breaks to balance the cost. In the long run not only would this make Americans more secure it might even be more economical.

This tech is still so new it`ll take atleast 10-15 years before we can see this implemented into mass produced cars, and the car manufactorers are doiung their own research on the issue, imagine the sales of the brand that could supply cars running on hydrogen as efficient as a gasoline car and only pure destilled drinkable water as a biproduct.

This is the tech Toyota is using the most research funds on atm and they`ll prolly have the first series of cars for the public - this is the tech the manufactorers want for the future, make no mistake about that.

konfusion wrote:

I agree with Kmarion - I think the public will want it more than the businesses. The "big guys" out there making billions off of oil won't have it.

-konfusion

Not just the oil business. Consider how much a slight fuel price increase would have on a company like UPS that puts thousands of trucks on the road everyday.

I was debating this with my father the other night (he is an electrical engineer for Northrup) and his view was that the Hydrogen technologies is the auto industries way of trying to maintain the status quo (combustion engines that need to be fueled).  His money is on Solar paneling for house hold roofing that is probably only about 5 years from being readily available to replace conventional roofing and should be affordable.  At that point All Electric cars with improved Batteries become the primary means of transportation.  Your House would collect energy during the day and should be enough to cover at least what is needed to charge the car, ideally, good days, you would be supplying excess energy back to the grid.  he said the bidirectional meters are on the way so that the electric companies can monitor if you generate electric and are supplying the grid rather than just pulling energy.  He expects that it will change the way we are billed for power and everything will move this directions.  A hand full of Nuke plants would provide power in the winters and during bad weather streaks.

He also pointed out that the cost will likely never be lower than that of newer battery technology which can already be recycled, so electric cars are much more likely than hydrogen in the long run.

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KnowMeByTrailOfDead wrote:

He also pointed out that the cost will likely never be lower than that of newer battery technology which can already be recycled, so electric cars are much more likely than hydrogen in the long run.

Inside a city yes, out on the road no.

Pure electric cars to replace all other cars is not a viable solution for the near future, and your dads dream is so many years into the future, it will take way longer than 10 years before all houses are equipped with solar panels and even then i can hardly comprehend much energy being routed back into the grid.

Varegg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

It's more efficient than being held hostage by the Royal family. I think Americans would be willing to bear it (If they really thought about the consequences of not doing so).  It is the bottom line business that won't have it. Cut overseas military expenditures and the billions of dollars we feel we have to donate to Israel (Israel will still exist without our charity). That might allow for considerable tax breaks to balance the cost. In the long run not only would this make Americans more secure it might even be more economical.

This tech is still so new it`ll take atleast 10-15 years before we can see this implemented into mass produced cars, and the car manufactorers are doiung their own research on the issue, imagine the sales of the brand that could supply cars running on hydrogen as efficient as a gasoline car and only pure destilled drinkable water as a biproduct.

This is the tech Toyota is using the most research funds on atm and they`ll prolly have the first series of cars for the public - this is the tech the manufactorers want for the future, make no mistake about that.

Actually the biggest problem is gas companies not wanting a new cheaper (in the long run) resource so their fighting to keep gas on the market as top priority. If H2 powered cars were in high demand it would take around 5years max if there was not ignorant competition. I would rather have a gas powered car anyways since they produce more power.

hahaha thats my school go "Purdue" boilermakers