san4
The Mas
+311|7135|NYC, a place to live
Edit: A post with facts and information deserves a serious response.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

As A Result Of The President's Tax Cuts, Every Taxpayer Who Paid Taxes Will Get Tax Relief This Year. In addition to cutting taxes on everyone who pays income taxes, the Administration has doubled the child tax credit, reduced the marriage penalty, cut taxes on dividends and capital gains, and put the Federal death tax on the road to extinction. As a result, in 2007:

113 million taxpayers will receive an average tax cut of $2,216.
45 million families with children will receive an average tax cut of $2,864.
27 million small business owners will receive an average tax cut of $4,711.
Over 5 million individuals and families will see their income tax liability completely eliminated.
These statistics are bogus. Bush gave the super-rich huge tax cuts and that raises the average tax cut but it only affects a few bigshots. If Bill Gates gets a $100 million tax cut and you get a $1 tax cut, the average tax cut is $500,000.50.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

Energy-Today, President Bush Directed The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) And The U.S. Departments Of Energy (DOE), Transportation (DOT), And Agriculture (USDA) To Take The First Steps Toward Regulations Using The "Twenty In Ten" Plan As A Starting Point.  The President has directed these agencies to take the first steps toward regulations that would cut gasoline consumption and greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles, using as a starting point his "Twenty in Ten" plan to reduce U.S. gasoline consumption by 20 percent over the next 10 years.
I have a question--how long has this guy been president? And why didn't he do this five years ago? If the $300 billion spent in Iraq had been spent to develop alternatives to arab oil, the US would be better off. And arab US-haters would be screwed.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

On April 2, 2007, The Supreme Court Ruled That The EPA Must Take Action Under The Clean Air Act Regarding Greenhouse Gas Emissions From Motor Vehicles.
In Response To The Supreme Court's Ruling, The President Directed Cabinet Agencies To Take The First Steps Toward Regulations Based On "Twenty In Ten" That Will Make Our Economy Stronger, Our Environment Cleaner, And Our Nation More Secure For Generations To Come.
The Supreme Court said Bush "must" do something about the environment and he did something about the environment? Is that supposed to be impressive that he complied with a court order?

whitehouse.gov wrote:

Since The President Took Office, The Federal Government Has Invested $12 Billion To Develop Cleaner, Cheaper, And More Reliable Energy Sources.
We spend $12 billion every couple of months in Iraq. And he's spent $12 billion in six years on alternative energy? Why doesn't he just come out and say, "fuck alternative energy!"

whitehouse.gove wrote:

The President Has Devoted $37 Billion To Climate Change-Related Activities Since 2001.  The President has requested an additional $7.4 billion for FY 2008 – $205 million more than this year. This amount would support a wide range of climate change-related research, development, and deployment programs, voluntary partnerships, and international aid efforts.
This is beyond lol. For most of his term, he denied that global warming existed and that humans were causing it. How much of that $37 billion was spent arguing against the need to take action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions? And we're still talking about puny amounts of money for a problem that could cause the earth to more or less die.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

We Are Well On Track To Meet – And Currently Projected To Exceed – The President's 2002 Goal Of Reducing U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emission Intensity 18 Percent By 2012.  U.S. greenhouse gas intensity declined by 2.5 percent in 2005, much faster than the average decline of 1.9 percent over the 1990-2005 period.
I am afraid to ask what greenhouse gas "intensity" is. Why don't they just talk about how much they have reduced greenhouse gas emissions? Sounds like bullshit to me.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

Since The President Took Office In 2001, The Administration Has More Than Doubled Funding For Border Security – From $4.6 Billion In 2001 To $10.4 Billion In 2007.
And the border is still pathetically easy to cross. What kind of border security does the US have if thousands of tons of illegal drugs cross the border every year?

whitehouse.gov wrote:

As A Result Of This Investment And Other Deterrence Factors, The Number Of People Apprehended For Illegally Crossing Our Southern Border Is Down By Nearly 27 Percent In 2007 From This Point In 2006.
This is a joke, right? Why are the number of arrests down? Is it because fewer people are trying to cross the border? Or is it because illegal immigrants are just doing better at avoiding capture?

whitehouse.gov wrote:

Reducing Deficits Each Year and Balancing the Budget by 2012
The President’s FY2008 Budget reduces the deficit each year and reaches a balanced budget within five years. A strong economy and better spending restraint will help us achieve this goal, while continuing to invest in the Nation’s prosperity and security.
Does this actually say "spending restraint"?????

Last edited by san4 (2007-05-24 21:33:06)

Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7153

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Zukabazuka wrote:

Duh its his secondary acount =P

But I still can't believe how USA elected him the second time.
what? i chose the lesser of two evils. john kerry is a gutless prick
So true.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7288|Cologne, Germany

Just imagine, if Bush had invested all that money he has been putting into the war machine over the last five years into domestic areas such as education, health care, border security, or the environment.

I dare say you'd be just as "safe", but a lot better off.

We will eventually run out of oil anyway. The earlier the global players start developping alternative energy ressources, the earlier US forces can move out of middle eastern shitholes, and you can show all those oil-producing ME nations the finger
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
After 9-11 there was real hope that the border issue would be addressed. We could all see in our minds asshole Islamofacists smuggling backpack nukes across the border as surely as Juan comes across to pick fruit.

But nothing happened.
Nothing.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7122|Canberra, AUS

sharpshot19 wrote:

all i got left to say is do your own research and develope your own opinions based on what you find....dont just go with what you here on the news or read in the papers/ magazine etc. everything you see is going to be strewed and manipulated to present biased information by either side whether for or against. which is why the media cannot always be trusted. when doing research turn to sources that present both sides of the story and leave you to create your own opinion of the situation.

on a side note -- the presidents approval rating is higher than that of the approval rating for the majority democratic congress. interesting.
How do you figure that? A few months ago, the majority of Americans voted for the Democratic congress. Bush's approval ratings are about 30%. Now, unless 2 + 2 = -10, I don't think Bush's approval is higher than the democrats.

And if your 'research' on the government only comes from the government itself we'll leave "research" elsewhere, thanks.

As for the border issue, I sympathise. It really must suck, and it's a stain on the record of the Republican party that they let it happen. (to be fair, a stain on ALL parties)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7101

ATG wrote:

After 9-11 there was real hope that the border issue would be addressed. We could all see in our minds asshole Islamofacists smuggling backpack nukes across the border as surely as Juan comes across to pick fruit.

But nothing happened.
Nothing.
I almost wish a terrorist would come across the border and detonate a nuke in our country... but then that means it'd probably happen in southern California

Wanna build ourselves a nuke and set it off in the desert and make it look like someone brought it from across the loose border?


...whoa I'm starting to sound like some radical, bleeding heart conservative here
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7211|Dallas

ATG wrote:

After 9-11 there was real hope that the border issue would be addressed. We could all see in our minds asshole Islamofacists smuggling backpack nukes across the border as surely as Juan comes across to pick fruit.

But nothing happened.
Nothing.

whitehouse.gov wrote:

Immigration-Three Key Points About The Bush Administration's Border Security And Worksite Enforcement Achievements

Since The President Took Office In 2001, The Administration Has More Than Doubled Funding For Border Security – From $4.6 Billion In 2001 To $10.4 Billion In 2007.


As A Result Of This Investment And Other Deterrence Factors, The Number Of People Apprehended For Illegally Crossing Our Southern Border Is Down By Nearly 27 Percent In 2007 From This Point In 2006.


Immigration And Customs Enforcement (ICE) Has Replaced The Old System Of Administrative Hearings And Fines With A Much Tougher Combination Of Criminal Prosecutions And Asset Forfeitures – A Much More Aggressive Approach Toward Cracking Down On Employers Who Knowingly Hire Illegal Aliens.  This has resulted in a significant increase in arrests for criminal violations brought in worksite enforcement actions.
Increased Border Security Is Helping Deter Illegal Immigration

The Administration Has Expanded The Border Patrol From Approximately 9,000 Agents In 2001 To More Than 13,000 Agents Today.  By the end of 2008, there will be a total of more than 18,000 agents, doubling the size of the Border Patrol under the President's leadership.

In Addition To Increasing Manpower, The Administration Is Improving Infrastructure And Technology At The Border.  Today, there are in place:

Thousands of ground sensors;
Hundreds of day and night cameras;
86 miles of primary fencing, part of 370 miles planned by the end of calendar year 2008;
Over 350 miles of improved patrol roads;
78 miles of permanent vehicle barrier;
4 Ground Surveillance Radars (GSR); and
1 Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) in Southern AZ with another coming on line in July of this year.
As Upgrades Are Completed At The Border, National Guard Members Are Supporting The Border Patrol In Texas, California, Arizona, And New Mexico Under Operation Jump Start.  As the Administration continues building up the Border Patrol, Operation Jump Start is providing complementary manpower on the border, allowing the Border Patrol to move more than 560 agents from support roles into frontline positions.

Since The Launch Of Operation Jump Start In June 2006, National Guard Members Have Assisted The Border Patrol In Apprehending More Than 72,000 Illegal Immigrants And Seizing More Than 195,000 Pounds Of Illegal Drugs.
The Administration Has Effectively Ended The Practice Of "Catch And Release" For Every Non-Mexican Apprehended At Our Borders.

The Administration Has Added Thousands Of New Beds At Detention Centers Across The Country.  Since the President took office, the Administration has provided funding for 7,798 new beds to accommodate apprehended illegal immigrants – a 40 percent increase over 2001.
The Administration Has Expedited The Legal Process To Reduce The Time Non-Mexican Illegal Aliens Remain In Detention Awaiting Deportation By About Half.
The Administration Is Holding Employers Accountable For The Workers They Hire

Arrests For Criminal Violations Brought In Worksite Enforcement Actions – The Most Effective Means Of Enforcement And Best Measure Of ICE's New Approach – Have Increased Significantly.  These criminal arrests have increased from 24 in FY 1999 to a record 716 in FY 2006 – a nearly 2900 percent increase.  There have been 588 criminal arrests since the beginning of FY 2007.

During The First Half Of FY 2007, ICE Obtained Criminal Fines, Restitutions, And Civil Judgments In Worksite Enforcement Investigations Against Egregious Violators In Excess Of $29 Million.

In April 2006, ICE Carried Out The Largest Single Worksite Enforcement Action Ever Taken Against An Employer.  Seven current and former managers of an international logistics service provider were charged with harboring aliens and document fraud, and 1,187 unlawfully employed illegal aliens were arrested.
But according to whitehouse.gov, the immigration problems been fixed/taken care of and you don't know what you are talking about.

GG For shitty ass sources.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7075|IRELAND

mtb0minime wrote:

Wanna build ourselves a nuke and set it off in the desert and make it look like someone brought it from across the loose border?


...whoa I'm starting to sound like some radical, bleeding heart conservative here
No a mad conspiracy theorist. CIA planned 9/11 don't you know.
Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6650
An attitude like this will lead you down the path of Rosie O'Donnell.
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7074

sharpshot19 wrote:

all i got left to say is do your own research and develope your own opinions based on what you find....dont just go with what you here on the news or read in the papers/ magazine etc. everything you see is going to be strewed and manipulated to present biased information by either side whether for or against. which is why the media cannot always be trusted. when doing research turn to sources that present both sides of the story and leave you to create your own opinion of the situation.

on a side note -- the presidents approval rating is higher than that of the approval rating for the majority democratic congress. interesting.
I believe what you're seeing is the remnants of disapproval from the 6 yrs. the Republicans held the Congress.

I would hardly call a 33% approval rating for a sitting President anything to brag about.  Think about it, 2 out of every 3 Americans do not approve of the job he is doing.  How many corporate presidents or CEO's would be in power with those numbers?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,993|7079|949

GATOR591957 wrote:

I would hardly call a 33% approval rating for a sitting President anything to brag about.  Think about it, 2 out of every 3 Americans do not approve of the job he is doing.  How many corporate presidents or CEO's would be in power with those numbers?
I bet if you polled the shareholders (owners of concentrated capital) of the US Government, Bush would have great approval ratings.

The general public voting on Presidential success is like the cashiers/janitors at Wal-Mart voting on CEO success.

The president is pandering to the people that matter (not you and I).  For that, the industry is sure to give him great marks.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
These guys rule.
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7074

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

I would hardly call a 33% approval rating for a sitting President anything to brag about.  Think about it, 2 out of every 3 Americans do not approve of the job he is doing.  How many corporate presidents or CEO's would be in power with those numbers?
I bet if you polled the shareholders (owners of concentrated capital) of the US Government, Bush would have great approval ratings.

The general public voting on Presidential success is like the cashiers/janitors at Wal-Mart voting on CEO success.

The president is pandering to the people that matter (not you and I).  For that, the industry is sure to give him great marks.
However, in business the employees work for the CEO.  In government the President is at work for us.  I know this message got lost the last 6 yrs., but that is the way it's drawn up.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,993|7079|949

GATOR591957 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

I would hardly call a 33% approval rating for a sitting President anything to brag about.  Think about it, 2 out of every 3 Americans do not approve of the job he is doing.  How many corporate presidents or CEO's would be in power with those numbers?
I bet if you polled the shareholders (owners of concentrated capital) of the US Government, Bush would have great approval ratings.

The general public voting on Presidential success is like the cashiers/janitors at Wal-Mart voting on CEO success.

The president is pandering to the people that matter (not you and I).  For that, the industry is sure to give him great marks.
However, in business the employees work for the CEO.  In government the President is at work for us.  I know this message got lost the last 6 yrs., but that is the way it's drawn up.
That message got lost long ago.

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