Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_90/intro.html

Just some reading

Latin America emerged in 1990 as the most frequent site for terrorist attacks against US interests. Most of these attacks took place in Chile, Peru, and Colombia. Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets. Thus, although the number of international terrorist incidents was high, the escalating domestic political violence had an even greater impact on the region.
Thought it might be interesting.
derstralle
Iron Egg Skill, bitches!
+29|6662
If you count guerrilla-warfare as terrorism...
I do not support such a classification.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6972|South Florida
they make this thing called a Personal Message system. or "PM"
15 more years! 15 more years!
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7212|Cambridge (UK)

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

they make this thing called a Personal Message system. or "PM"
Why PM when you can spam the forums?
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211
eh true, sorry forgot, if a mod wants to delete this go for it. I'll pm him.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

Ridir wrote:

eh true, sorry forgot, if a mod wants to delete this go for it. I'll pm him.
No..why.  It is a good topic.  Just change the title mods...

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-05-25 17:39:58)

oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6966|Πάϊ

derstralle wrote:

If you count guerrilla-warfare as terrorism...
I do not support such a classification.
QFE


Latin America emerged in 1990 as the most frequent site for terrorist attacks against US interests.
Let's not forget why that is.

Btw this is a good topic, it'd be a shame to direct it at one man only. Let the thread be.

Last edited by oug (2007-05-25 18:27:37)

ƒ³
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211
It was directed at him because of a debate last week, if the mods wantt o delete the cameron poe thing so be it
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
I respect Ridir, I think he's a relatively rational chap. I won't respond to this tonight however given that I'm pretty drunk. Amárach amigos!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-25 18:34:50)

Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6925|Communist Republic of CA, USA
A drunk Irishman?  What has the world come to?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

CameronPoe wrote:

I respect Ridir, I think he's a relatively rational chap. I won't respond to this tonight however given that I'm pretty drunk. Amárach amigos!
I will leave it open then.

If you wanted to get a quick response from Cam regarding terrorism trends you should have used a link like this though...
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

oug wrote:

derstralle wrote:

If you count guerrilla-warfare as terrorism...
I do not support such a classification.
QFE
Terrorism isn't about the method, but the target.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

Kmarion wrote:

a link like this
Great!

thereligionofpeace.com wrote:

Simply put, because it’s wrong to kill people...................Many Muslims in the West often hold an interpretation of Islam that is much closer to Judeo-Christianity than to the actual way of Muhammad
Muslims aren't violent because they're actually Christians, who in the middle ages were actually Muslim!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina
Given how much we interfere with the affairs of some of Latin America, I'm not surprised that they occasionally bite back.  Anyone heard of Plan Colombia or what we did in El Salvador?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Ridir wrote:

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_90/intro.html

Just some reading

Latin America emerged in 1990 as the most frequent site for terrorist attacks against US interests. Most of these attacks took place in Chile, Peru, and Colombia. Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets. Thus, although the number of international terrorist incidents was high, the escalating domestic political violence had an even greater impact on the region.
Thought it might be interesting.
The terrorism of which you speak is not the kind of terrorism GW speaks of when he talks about the 'war on terror'. US tourists and businessmen can safely visit any Latin American country (perhaps with the exception of Columbia) without fear of beheading, kidnap, assassination or harassment. That is not the case in places like the middle east. Why is this? Because in Latin America the 'terrorism' that is referred to is politically motivated and not just random carnage and criminality without principle.

It states clearly in the quoted section in fact that 'Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets' which shows where their disgruntlement lies - they are annoyed with the powers that be in their countries bending over forwards for the US and taking it like bitches. The World Bank, the IMF and western interests (US, European, etc., but in particular USA) have exploited political instability in this region for decades and have undermined democracy in the region on several occasions for their own benefit, often in a very underhanded manner. For me that is legitimate cause for the people of Latin America to stand up and say 'Enough is enough!'. They are just following the dreams of Simon Bolivar, José Martí and Che Guevara. Latin Americans should vote in governments that will protect their interests or oust by force dictators who are hobbling them - America shouldn't be a focus for their hatred if they can get governments that will protect them from scheming, opportunistic and often quite forceful external parties.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7069|Little Bentcock
Poe, your knowledge and wisdom never ceases to amaze me.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Adams_BJ wrote:

Poe, your knowledge and wisdom never ceases to amaze me.
I've a big interest in Latin America. I used to date a Panamanian girl and have been there a couple of times, including Cuba. It's a politically very interesting continent.
Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649

CameronPoe wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Poe, your knowledge and wisdom never ceases to amaze me.
I've a big interest in Latin America. I used to date a Panamanian girl and have been there a couple of times, including Cuba. It's a politically very interesting continent.
Pics?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Poe, your knowledge and wisdom never ceases to amaze me.
I've a big interest in Latin America. I used to date a Panamanian girl and have been there a couple of times, including Cuba. It's a politically very interesting continent.
Pics?
If you insist...

https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1914/imgp3034ra8.jpg

https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/220/xxxxtv1.jpg

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-26 07:37:15)

Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649
Wow, you delivered.
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7211

CameronPoe wrote:

Ridir wrote:

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_90/intro.html

Just some reading

Latin America emerged in 1990 as the most frequent site for terrorist attacks against US interests. Most of these attacks took place in Chile, Peru, and Colombia. Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets. Thus, although the number of international terrorist incidents was high, the escalating domestic political violence had an even greater impact on the region.
Thought it might be interesting.
The terrorism of which you speak is not the kind of terrorism GW speaks of when he talks about the 'war on terror'. US tourists and businessmen can safely visit any Latin American country (perhaps with the exception of Columbia) without fear of beheading, kidnap, assassination or harassment. That is not the case in places like the middle east. Why is this? Because in Latin America the 'terrorism' that is referred to is politically motivated and not just random carnage and criminality without principle.

It states clearly in the quoted section in fact that 'Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets' which shows where their disgruntlement lies - they are annoyed with the powers that be in their countries bending over forwards for the US and taking it like bitches. The World Bank, the IMF and western interests (US, European, etc., but in particular USA) have exploited political instability in this region for decades and have undermined democracy in the region on several occasions for their own benefit, often in a very underhanded manner. For me that is legitimate cause for the people of Latin America to stand up and say 'Enough is enough!'. They are just following the dreams of Simon Bolivar, José Martí and Che Guevara. Latin Americans should vote in governments that will protect their interests or oust by force dictators who are hobbling them - America shouldn't be a focus for their hatred if they can get governments that will protect them from scheming, opportunistic and often quite forceful external parties.
Got me there.  I was searching for a reply in another topic and stumbled across this, read some of it and came across the Latin America.  One question I have for you though, would you consider the kidnappings down there to be a terrorist incident or petty criminals looking for a quick buck?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Ridir wrote:

Got me there.  I was searching for a reply in another topic and stumbled across this, read some of it and came across the Latin America.  One question I have for you though, would you consider the kidnappings down there to be a terrorist incident or petty criminals looking for a quick buck?
The kidnappings are almost entirely drugs-based criminality.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6669|Escea

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

A drunk Irishman?  What has the world come to?
Haha, but seriously, I'd like to visit Peru or Panama at some point.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7212|Cambridge (UK)

CameronPoe wrote:

Ridir wrote:

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_90/intro.html

Just some reading

Latin America emerged in 1990 as the most frequent site for terrorist attacks against US interests. Most of these attacks took place in Chile, Peru, and Colombia. Latin American radical or guerrilla groups engaging in terrorism tended to attack domestic, rather than foreign, targets. Thus, although the number of international terrorist incidents was high, the escalating domestic political violence had an even greater impact on the region.
Thought it might be interesting.
The terrorism of which you speak is not the kind of terrorism GW speaks of when he talks about the 'war on terror'. US tourists and businessmen can safely visit any Latin American country (perhaps with the exception of Columbia) without fear of beheading, kidnap, assassination or harassment. That is not the case in places like the middle east. Why is this? Because in Latin America the 'terrorism' that is referred to is politically motivated and not just random carnage and criminality without principle.
I think it's wrong to say that Bush/Blair's 'War on Terrorism', the 'terrorist' response to it or the so called 'random carnage and criminality' isn't politically motivated - just because it is international rather than domestic, does not make it any the less politically motivated.

Whatever your belief about the specific motivations of the various 'sides' involved, at their roots, those motivations are, imo, purely political.

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