Yea -I know that feeling now...ATG wrote:
Again, to everyone, it's like standing in a room full of mentally retarded people yelling at them because they can't figure out the remote.
You're a mentally retarded people!ATG wrote:
Wow, I been missing some good shit in my own thread.
btw way guys, fyi, constant flaming is the # 1 reason why regulars get banned.
Again, to everyone, it's like standing in a room full of mentally retarded people yelling at them because they can't figure out the remote.
If you can't argue without name calling....
FTW!Bubbalo wrote:
You're a mentally retarded people!
Bubbalo wrote:
You're a mentally retarded people!ATG wrote:
Wow, I been missing some good shit in my own thread.
btw way guys, fyi, constant flaming is the # 1 reason why regulars get banned.
Again, to everyone, it's like standing in a room full of mentally retarded people yelling at them because they can't figure out the remote.
If you can't argue without name calling....
There is a small group of people in any government that believe in anything, but that does not mean the majority does, or that they do it. The US government officialy does not condone tourture, and anybody who gets caught gets into serious trouble. There is always a small group of people in any government who does these things behind everyone else's backs. Sometimes they get caught; sometimes they don't, but they always get into trouble if they are caught.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
There are (and have been for some time now) many people in the intelligence arm of the US government that believe in the value of torture as an object lesson for both the person being tortured and that person's associates. It was a significant part of the teaching imparted by our government to the agents of various third-world dictators that our government has supported or allied with over the past few decades, usually through the School of the Americas (recently renamed to the Western Hemispheric Institute for Security Cooperation). Under the guise of teaching resistance to torture, members of foreign militaries friendly to the US government were trained in various torture techniques both here at the SoA and also abroad in their home countries by CIA agents. They were encouraged to use these techniques against "communist insurgents" (the boogeyman of those times) not for purposes of intelligence gathering but to strike fear among anyone possibly unfriendly to US interests. They didn't just abandon the idea once the Cold War came to a close.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
America using tourture to prove a point? Please elaborate. At the moment I can not possibly believe that you actually feel this way.
Maybe they don't have a sense of humour?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
isnt this fucking thread supposed to be about our MIA's in Iraq. those guys at the hands of the beheaders arent laughing at all these great jokes.
Yeah. For one, your enemies don't bother the higher-ups because even in the US getting permission for torture is really just about rubber stamping.Turquoise wrote:
Not too much to say here other than that it's pretty obvious that a great divide separates how we treat prisoners vs. how our enemies do it....
lol... True, but I haven't heard about any Americans beheading prisoners....Bubbalo wrote:
Yeah. For one, your enemies don't bother the higher-ups because even in the US getting permission for torture is really just about rubber stamping.Turquoise wrote:
Not too much to say here other than that it's pretty obvious that a great divide separates how we treat prisoners vs. how our enemies do it....
How about burning people alive? That's another favorite technique of some of these insurgents.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, well, so long as you don't behead them it's all okay. Feel free to hold them without charging, or without admitting to it, or torturing them, or handing them over to Egypt so they'll do your dirty work, but beheading............Jesus, even Hitler didn't behead people.
Actually he did, ever heard of Sophie Scholl?Bubbalo
Oh, well, so long as you don't behead them it's all okay. Feel free to hold them without charging, or without admitting to it, or torturing them, or handing them over to Egypt so they'll do your dirty work, but beheading............Jesus, even Hitler didn't behead people.
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Really? Sources?Turquoise wrote:
How about burning people alive? That's another favorite technique of some of these insurgents.
Torture is torture. End of story.Turquoise wrote:
I'm against what we did in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, but there simply isn't any real camparison between waterboarding and what our enemies do.
At least they have an excuse: they're fighting a much better equipped and more powerful army, which they'd lose to in an out and out fight. What's yours?Turquoise wrote:
Again, it doesn't justify some of our actions, but it should still make it clear which side is more respectable.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq … iite_x.htmBubbalo wrote:
Really? Sources?Turquoise wrote:
How about burning people alive? That's another favorite technique of some of these insurgents.
Not that I doubt you, but it's a little hard to argue when I don't know exactly what you're saying they've done.
Preventing dozens of people from getting killed by explosives and other terrorist attacks. Admittedly, torture is not a consistently accurate means of getting information, but it does occasionally save lives.Bubbalo wrote:
At least they have an excuse: they're fighting a much better equipped and more powerful army, which they'd lose to in an out and out fight. What's yours?Turquoise wrote:
Again, it doesn't justify some of our actions, but it should still make it clear which side is more respectable.
Uh-huh, sure.Turquoise wrote:
Preventing dozens of people from getting killed by explosives and other terrorist attacks. Admittedly, torture is not a consistently accurate means of getting information, but it does occasionally save lives.
That'll do, pig. That'll do.M.O.A.B. wrote:
Actually he did, ever heard of Sophie Scholl?
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