Phrozenbot
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Ridir wrote:

The Bible isn't any better.  I'm Christian and I'll go ahead and tell ya.  It is full of murder, warfare, destruction of the infidel (Muslims, Hindu, Atheist), and sex.  In fact there are specific chapters that refer to God telling the Hebrews to destroy the Muslims.  They're all the sons of Abraham, but they were told to destroy the other tribes.  The only difference is in what century the offensive is taking place.  Christians used around the 1300's to try and take back Jerusalim in the Cursades and ended up losing a lot of Spain to the Moors for a while.  The entire picture has been reversed now.
God never ordered the Jews to kill any "Muslims." Islam was not around in the BCs. The people God ordered to be killed worshiped Baal, Asheroth, Moloch, Nergal, and other Gods. Clearly not Allah.

Murder (unjust), is not ok. Killing (just) is ok.
Reciprocity
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+721|7028|the dank(super) side of Oregon

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

planting IED's take guts?  I whole heartedely disagree with this statement.  needs more cow bell.
the truth is, these fuckers never stand up and fight.  its always ambush and 10 minute firefight and they disappear
I'm not defending these guys but what do you expect?  Are they gunna call in close air support and light armor?  they fight with what they've got.  AK's and old ordinance that they can rig up.  Guerilla warfare is the only tactic these little bastards can employ to stay alive and accomplish anything.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7203|United States of America

Reciprocity wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

planting IED's take guts?  I whole heartedely disagree with this statement.  needs more cow bell.
the truth is, these fuckers never stand up and fight.  its always ambush and 10 minute firefight and they disappear
I'm not defending these guys but what do you expect?  Are they gunna call in close air support and light armor?  they fight with what they've got.  AK's and old ordinance that they can rig up.  Guerilla warfare is the only tactic these little bastards can employ to stay alive and accomplish anything.
Yes, and even in doing so they aren't doing that great.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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Reciprocity wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

planting IED's take guts?  I whole heartedely disagree with this statement.  needs more cow bell.
the truth is, these fuckers never stand up and fight.  its always ambush and 10 minute firefight and they disappear
I'm not defending these guys but what do you expect?  Are they gunna call in close air support and light armor?  they fight with what they've got.  AK's and old ordinance that they can rig up.  Guerilla warfare is the only tactic these little bastards can employ to stay alive and accomplish anything.
they could not fight. they choose to die.  dont feel bad for a soldier.  soldiers are meant for dying so people could debate the extinguishing of their life on the internet.  these are people that arent committed by a contract to the gov't.  they put their weapons down just as easily as they pick em up. o ne they theyre waving, next day theyre shooting.  they choose to be a part of that fight.  millions of other iraqis dont.
Archer
rapes face
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Louis, even though I rarely take part in D&ST, I can atleast say that you're not ready for this talk.

I can note you down as ignorant right now, but it's clear that you obviously don't mean your biased and well, arrogant talk with little understanding, even though you seem to follow it fully.

...Who am I to say this, but in my book, you're not fit..
Reciprocity
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

[
they could not fight. they choose to die.  dont feel bad for a soldier.  soldiers are meant for dying so people could debate the extinguishing of their life on the internet.  these are people that arent committed by a contract to the gov't.  they put their weapons down just as easily as they pick em up. o ne they theyre waving, next day theyre shooting.  they choose to be a part of that fight.  millions of other iraqis dont.
then i guess war sucks.  and is often not fair for either side.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7203|United States of America

Reciprocity wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

[
they could not fight. they choose to die.  dont feel bad for a soldier.  soldiers are meant for dying so people could debate the extinguishing of their life on the internet.  these are people that arent committed by a contract to the gov't.  they put their weapons down just as easily as they pick em up. o ne they theyre waving, next day theyre shooting.  they choose to be a part of that fight.  millions of other iraqis dont.
then i guess war sucks.  and is often not fair for either side.
Yeah... That sums it up.
{USMC}Louis
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Archer wrote:

Louis, even though I rarely take part in D&ST, I can atleast say that you're not ready for this talk.

I can note you down as ignorant right now, but it's clear that you obviously don't mean your biased and well, arrogant talk with little understanding, even though you seem to follow it fully.

...Who am I to say this, but in my book, you're not fit..
I have understanding....and that should be a jackass not a llama(that would be a good fit)
Archer
rapes face
+161|6871|Canuckistan

{USMC}Louis wrote:

Archer wrote:

Louis, even though I rarely take part in D&ST, I can atleast say that you're not ready for this talk.

I can note you down as ignorant right now, but it's clear that you obviously don't mean your biased and well, arrogant talk with little understanding, even though you seem to follow it fully.

...Who am I to say this, but in my book, you're not fit..
I have understanding....and that should be a jackass not a llama(that would be a good fit)
Woah, now that you break the line, I don't have to be nice to you anymore, thanks.

Your points are not thought-out well, it's destructive, which I find very ironic since you seem to have strong faith in god.

Nuke em all, eh? Kill many innocents, all while believing in the Bible. Makes you look like a clueless radical really, other than a Christian.

Last edited by Archer (2007-05-26 21:19:26)

Bubbalo
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{USMC}Louis wrote:

its ridiculous that the liberal freaks at home keep them from doing their job.
Oh?  Please elaborate.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
The liberal news media today always places a negative spin on the war on terror and what our military is doing in Iraq. The enemy im sure is watching the US media and its coverage which makes them more confident. Then back at home the citizens of our country feel like we are loosing the war so they rise up against the military and the soildiers.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008
So, the massive numbers of casualties are spin?

Besides which, media spin doesn't keep you from doing your job.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
The numbers are actually quite small compared to other wars with Us involvment..look at the numbers of casualties for the Marines un Bellaeu wood hunting perserve in WWI...The media spin however makes them think twice before they pull the trigger because of the fear of murder charges when theycome back home
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7068|London, England
Well it's not just the media. When you know the enemy looks like and hides behind civilians. Surely you'd think twice? Well probably not you. I guess that's how you get the fucking job done right?
Bubbalo
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{USMC}Louis wrote:

The numbers are actually quite small compared to other wars with Us involvment..look at the numbers of casualties for the Marines un Bellaeu wood hunting perserve in WWI...
So your comparing a war in a (relatively) small, sparsely populated nation to the casualties in one of the most widespread wars in history?

{USMC}Louis wrote:

The media spin however makes them think twice before they pull the trigger because of the fear of murder charges when theycome back home
And how many soldiers have been charged with murder for shooting armed insurgents?
jonsimon
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+224|6942
Wow, Louis is so far gone it isnt funny.
Cerpin_Taxt
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+155|6650

Bubbalo wrote:

{USMC}Louis wrote:

The numbers are actually quite small compared to other wars with Us involvment..look at the numbers of casualties for the Marines un Bellaeu wood hunting perserve in WWI...
So your comparing a war in a (relatively) small, sparsely populated nation to the casualties in one of the most widespread wars in history?
No, he is contrasting them.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
Im just saying that we need to keep it in perspective thats all...
Bubbalo
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+541|7008

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

{USMC}Louis wrote:

The numbers are actually quite small compared to other wars with Us involvment..look at the numbers of casualties for the Marines un Bellaeu wood hunting perserve in WWI...
So your comparing a war in a (relatively) small, sparsely populated nation to the casualties in one of the most widespread wars in history?
No, he is contrasting them.
No, he's comparing.  He's saying "Look, casualties are small compared to WWI", ignoring the huge number of other differences.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
But we werent talking about the other differences..we were talking about casualties
Bubbalo
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+541|7008

{USMC}Louis wrote:

But we werent talking about the other differences..we were talking about casualties
By that logic if someone asked me whether they should buy a second hand ute or a Ferrari, and I said Ferrari because it's more prestigious, they should buy a Ferrari.  But there are other issues, aren't there?  Cost, whether the person is a tradie, etc.

You can't compare one factor and ignore others.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
You are right, Im sorry. The number of casualties are not that high though..there are a higher percentage of casualties in Afghanisthan than in Iraq but nobody ever mentions that. There are less people in Iraq but more US troops in Iraq and there are more people and less US troops in Afgahnasthan but nobody ever mentions that either
Bubbalo
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I suspect that you're talking about US deaths alone.
{USMC}Louis
Member
+9|6628|Santa Rosa, California
Correct
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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Well, then, I don't really give a crap.  It's war, soldiers die.

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