Chechnya is a part of Russia from 19th sentury . So why the fuck we should leave it ? They are the same terorist threat as talibs , Al-Queda and others . They kill civilians in our cityes .ATG wrote:
Maybe, because the are ass raping the Checnyan people.
Russian commie bastards.
Red Storm Rising?Reciprocity wrote:
sweet. where the hell is my copy of Red Dawn.
MIRVs have, like Trident, for example - but these are just new, harder to intercept ICBMs, to counter the US missile defence program - which won't work against countries with decent missile technologies. It is easier to make a missile that won't be shot down than it is to make a system that will shoot missiles down. Nations of comparitive levels of technology will have missiles that the defence system is incapable of dealing with, other nations would use alternative techniques to deploy nuclear weapons, such as some type of terrorist attack. I can't foresee any scenario where the missile defence system will be worthwhile, but I'm not complaining in the UK we're going to (or are at the very least, quite likely to) have a missile defence system for free because of it.Kmarion wrote:
Question: What's new? MIRV's have been around for some time. I must be missing something because this story is starting to pop up everywhere.
Some defence systems can handle MIRVs? All you really need is the same tech, but make it able to either:Kmarion wrote:
Question: What's new? MIRV's have been around for some time. I must be missing something because this story is starting to pop up everywhere.
ATG wrote:
siryessir.
Fuckin' Russkies.
They won' let Checnya alone because they have the oil. Without the oil they can't compete. Now they have the Caucasus oil fields they will be as in our face as Kim Jong Il with nukes.
---ATG's Russian Counterpart: "KGB" wrote:
Fuckin' Amerikans.
They won' let Iraq alone because they have the oil. Without the oil they can't compete. Now they have the Iraqi oil fields they will be as in our face as Tony Blair with nukes.
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We? So you are Russian, not Ukrainian, right? If no.. then.. erm..Longbow wrote:
Chechnya is a part of Russia from 19th sentury . So why the fuck we should leave it ? They are the same terorist threat as talibs , Al-Queda and others . They kill civilians in our cityes .ATG wrote:
Maybe, because the are ass raping the Checnyan people.
Russian commie bastards.
Btw , speaking of Russia raping Chechnyan people while raping Iraqi people is very smart .
Perhaps because they feel that the US possessing such a system gives them an unfair advantage. Not to mention the fact the US have broken the ABM treaty with the Russians over this. The Russians are well within their rights to develop systems rendering the defence system useless. Unless the ABM technology is shared, in its entirety, with the Russians and probably the Chinese, it is illegal. That's what Reagan planned to do with SDI, develop an effective ABM system, then share it with the Russians, eliminating the risk of MAD.BALTINS wrote:
We? So you are Russian, not Ukrainian, right? If no.. then.. erm..Longbow wrote:
Chechnya is a part of Russia from 19th sentury . So why the fuck we should leave it ? They are the same terorist threat as talibs , Al-Queda and others . They kill civilians in our cityes .ATG wrote:
Maybe, because the are ass raping the Checnyan people.
Russian commie bastards.
Btw , speaking of Russia raping Chechnyan people while raping Iraqi people is very smart .
To the topic: Well, wasn't that defense shield supposed to protect Europe from Mid Eastern threats? Cause, if so, then why the hell does Russia come up with Nukes that can bypass it..
You mean a threat like this http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=22492 ?Bertster7 wrote:
Perhaps because they feel that the US possessing such a system gives them an unfair advantage. Not to mention the fact the US have broken the ABM treaty with the Russians over this. The Russians are well within their rights to develop systems rendering the defence system useless. Unless the ABM technology is shared, in its entirety, with the Russians and probably the Chinese, it is illegal. That's what Reagan planned to do with SDI, develop an effective ABM system, then share it with the Russians, eliminating the risk of MAD.BALTINS wrote:
We? So you are Russian, not Ukrainian, right? If no.. then.. erm..Longbow wrote:
Chechnya is a part of Russia from 19th sentury . So why the fuck we should leave it ? They are the same terorist threat as talibs , Al-Queda and others . They kill civilians in our cityes .
Btw , speaking of Russia raping Chechnyan people while raping Iraqi people is very smart .
To the topic: Well, wasn't that defense shield supposed to protect Europe from Mid Eastern threats? Cause, if so, then why the hell does Russia come up with Nukes that can bypass it..
Ya I saw this on the news while eating breakfast, it isn't that bad, Russia is neutral with the US right?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
the cold war has returned. carry on.
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a … 1?cid=2194
I think you're right about the treaty expiring, I didn't realise that.Kmarion wrote:
You mean a threat like this http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=22492 ?Bertster7 wrote:
Perhaps because they feel that the US possessing such a system gives them an unfair advantage. Not to mention the fact the US have broken the ABM treaty with the Russians over this. The Russians are well within their rights to develop systems rendering the defence system useless. Unless the ABM technology is shared, in its entirety, with the Russians and probably the Chinese, it is illegal. That's what Reagan planned to do with SDI, develop an effective ABM system, then share it with the Russians, eliminating the risk of MAD.BALTINS wrote:
We? So you are Russian, not Ukrainian, right? If no.. then.. erm..
To the topic: Well, wasn't that defense shield supposed to protect Europe from Mid Eastern threats? Cause, if so, then why the hell does Russia come up with Nukes that can bypass it..
10 unarmed missile interceptors in Poland and a linked radar in the Czech Republic is an unfair advantage.
Also didn't the treaty expire in 2001/2002? I don't think it was broken, it just wasn't renewed. (Could be wrong)
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Or making stealth missiles. The new Russian plasma based stealth technologies could be adapted to do that.Elamdri wrote:
MIRVs will always beat any defense system. If someone makes a defense system capable of handling the current MIRV technology, you just upgrade the BUS so that it can allow for more MIRVs. Its all about overwhelming the system with more targets than it can handle.
As for shooting it down before they break up, well, then its just a matter of making your missiles faster.
wont work this time. the Russians actually HAVE an economy...Miller wrote:
Revive Ronald Reagan from the dead and let him handle things.
I think MIRVs are cheaper. Although MIRVs were outlawed until SOMEONE backed out of the Goddamn ABM treaty like a fucking moronBertster7 wrote:
Or making stealth missiles. The new Russian plasma based stealth technologies could be adapted to do that.Elamdri wrote:
MIRVs will always beat any defense system. If someone makes a defense system capable of handling the current MIRV technology, you just upgrade the BUS so that it can allow for more MIRVs. Its all about overwhelming the system with more targets than it can handle.
As for shooting it down before they break up, well, then its just a matter of making your missiles faster.
No they weren't. The UKs entire nuclear arsenal is composed of MIRV warheads (Trident II D5s). The US have quite a few too. Even Russia had some prior to these tests so I'm assuming that these missiles are fancier and harder to intercept.Elamdri wrote:
I think MIRVs are cheaper. Although MIRVs were outlawed until SOMEONE backed out of the Goddamn ABM treaty like a fucking moronBertster7 wrote:
Or making stealth missiles. The new Russian plasma based stealth technologies could be adapted to do that.Elamdri wrote:
MIRVs will always beat any defense system. If someone makes a defense system capable of handling the current MIRV technology, you just upgrade the BUS so that it can allow for more MIRVs. Its all about overwhelming the system with more targets than it can handle.
As for shooting it down before they break up, well, then its just a matter of making your missiles faster.