Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

It was the US that proposed the treaty in the first place after the Russians started pioneering MIRV's. The US withdrew from the missile defense treaty as a result of other nations pursuing nuclear weapons and deployment technology. The shift was being made to a more defensive posture. Not only did the Russians not go ape shit over it but soon after (SORT) was signed.
https://i18.tinypic.com/5xg45ch.jpg

That cut both nuclear arsenals down considerably. Developing new technology to protect yourself is slightly different than new ways to attack IMO. There may be ways to defend against smaller states attacking with nuclear weapons. Nothing changes in a US/Russian MAD war though.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6669|Escea

MIRV's are extremely deadly considering how you can take out mulitple targets with one launch, this photo shows MIRV's re-entering the atomsphere. At the end of each line would be a Hiroshima sized explosion.

https://billdolson.com/reentryseries/Peace_Reentry-kmr.jpg

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-05-30 14:05:43)

PureFodder
Member
+225|6732
Well, one of the main reasons for not making the ABM shield, it'll just make eveyone design better missiles. America went ahead and made one anyway and (shock-horror) a better missile was invented. Now if the US can make a better ABM system that'll sort the problem out once and for all....

/shortightedness
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6915



Me FTW

Last edited by doctastrangelove1964 (2007-05-30 15:25:36)

Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7093|Peoria

Bertster7 wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Or making stealth missiles. The new Russian plasma based stealth technologies could be adapted to do that.
I think MIRVs are cheaper. Although MIRVs were outlawed until SOMEONE backed out of the Goddamn ABM treaty like a fucking moron
No they weren't. The UKs entire nuclear arsenal is composed of MIRV warheads (Trident II D5s). The US have quite a few too. Even Russia had some prior to these tests so I'm assuming that these missiles are fancier and harder to intercept.
Under the treaty MIRVs were not supposed to be used. Each missile could only be equipped with 1 warhead. Although, this was merely a bilateral treaty between the US and the USSR.
Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649
I believe that only applied to land-based ICBMs. The U.S. has been using MIRVs in submarines for a long time.

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-05-30 15:41:08)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7028|SE London

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

I believe that only applied to land-based ICBMs. The U.S. has been using MIRVs in submarines for a long time.
What about Peacekeepers and Minutemen? They're both MIRV based.

It was START II that imposed restrictions on MIRVs, not the ABM treaty. START II is not, and never has been, in force.
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7093|Peoria

Bertster7 wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

I believe that only applied to land-based ICBMs. The U.S. has been using MIRVs in submarines for a long time.
What about Peacekeepers and Minutemen? They're both MIRV based.

It was START II that imposed restrictions on MIRVs, not the ABM treaty. START II is not, and never has been, in force.
Oh, damn your right! Ug, Brainfart. Sorry.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6801
The USSR couldn't hack it. Russia is even less of threat.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-05-30 18:12:25)

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