Any Website Designers/Coders Here?

2007-05-30 22:04:51

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Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6799

I've been taking a online course learning coding (html) and the term is over now and I got an A! (98.7%) We went through coding everything up to tables and frames being the most complicating. (Summer term is more advanced stuff) I had a lot of fun doing it. Its great coding in notepad because thats all you really need.

Sure I can make sites using Dreamweaver and Frontpage easily but I thought it would be a good idea to just learn how to code sites in html.

Anybody here pro's at coding websites? (I'm looking at you Chuy!)

The funnest part is that surprise I get after writing a bunch of html and ending up with a site that is all pretty looking and error free. This is a mock website I had to make from scratch (excluding the photos and product descriptions) for part of a final grade.

https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4461/mockwebsitelw9.jpg

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2007-05-30 22:19:51

#2

chittydog: less busy; +586|7306|Kubra, Damn it!

I'm a web developer. Notepad is fine for html if you have lots of time, but get a decent IDE with Intellisense and you'll get your code out in a fraction of the time.

2007-05-30 22:23:18

#3

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6909|King Of The Islands

You're off to a great start there, you've got borders and colour and everything already. Back when I started there was no such thing as CSS, so my sites looked really bad. They still do, but now they have pwitty pictures and form

Some key points:
[*]NEVER use Frames
[*]NEVER force anything on a user, like window dimensions, popups, etc.[/list]
I still do all my website manually, mainly because I'm not going to shell out $300 for a program when I can do it myself, and back when I learnt site-making, Dreamweaver/Go-Live was frowned upon as it was lazy and made shite code everywhere. That trend however has shifted.

Enjoy your knowledge, thar.

Oh and I use UltraEdit-32.

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2007-05-30 22:26:23

#4

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6799

Kick ass, couple good tips already. I'll do a search, but what is UltraEdit-32? What is an IDE and intellisense?

I have made quite a few errors in some work and I got really flustered. I thought of just copying and pasting the code in to Dreamweaver and seeing if that program would pick up my errors but didn't work so great lol.

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2007-05-30 22:28:53

#5

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6799

Ha, now whenever I finish typing here I always reach for ctrl-s
I crammed two chapters in, in the past two days.

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2007-05-30 22:32:39

#6

chittydog: less busy; +586|7306|Kubra, Damn it!

This site is what I used to learn HTML back in '96. They have some decent javascript tutorials and some basic style guides. I agree with Cheez on the no frames thing, but think that there are times when forcing things on users is okay. Also, I'll take Visual Studio over UE-32, but it's just a personal preference. If you're just doing HTML without any programming, anything you like is fine.

Cheez, Dreamweaver's still shite.

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2007-05-30 22:39:10

#7

chittydog: less busy; +586|7306|Kubra, Damn it!

Im_Dooomed wrote:
Kick ass, couple good tips already. I'll do a search, but what is UltraEdit-32? What is an IDE and intellisense?

I have made quite a few errors in some work and I got really flustered. I thought of just copying and pasting the code in to Dreamweaver and seeing if that program would pick up my errors but didn't work so great lol.

UltraEdit 32 is a text editor, kinda like a beefed up Notepad. TextPad is another popular choice, but I can't stand it because all the quick keys combos are different. IDE = Integrated Development Environment. It basically means a program that has a lot of built-in crap that helps you code. Frontpage and Dreamweaver are IDEs.

Intellisense (this is the MS term for this functionality) gives you suggestions while you're coding. For example, if you type "<table", it could either add this "></table>" for you or show an inline drop-down of possible attributes of table, such as id, background, width, style, etc. It's handy as hell and keeps you from making typos.

2007-05-30 22:39:23

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SmackDowN: Member; +5|6940

intellisense is a useful tool, it finishes the code for you. I mean, for exemple, when i'm programming C++ on visual studio, and coding stuff around an object, i get a nice little drop down menu giving me the proprieties and functions attached to it, so i'm sure there arent any typing error, and i save time.

2007-05-30 22:49:22

#9

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6909|King Of The Islands

chittydog wrote:
Intellisense (this is the MS term for this functionality) gives you suggestions while you're coding. For example, if you type "<table", it could either add this "></table>" for you or show an inline drop-down of possible attributes of table, such as id, background, width, style, etc.

Ahh, HomeSite+ had that. It was good but it got absorbed by Macromedia and dropped for Dreamweaver. If you already have that, use it. Don't worry about some Super Notepad. I'm old school.

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2007-05-31 00:14:13

#10

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6799

Thanks guys. It's a little late for me here but I will definitely do a search on ultraedit-32, intellisense and homesite+ sometime this weekend. They all sound like very useful programs.

I think that when a person first signs up for a course like this, the instructors don't mention any of these added programs (or mentioned in my book) because they want you to do stuff in repetition and try to get you to remember as much as you can

Chittydog you started coding in '96? Wow...I feel like I am WAY behind the curve. BUT the good news is I was way above my class average (Of 20 students) for grades on all levels

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