bogo24dk
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+26|6953
Israeli troops killed more than 650 Palestinians last year — half of them unarmed civilians including some 120 children — a threefold increase from 2005, a leading human rights group said Wednesday.

In its annual 2007 global report, Amnesty International also criticized Israel for deepening the poverty in Palestinian territories by withholding customs duties and widening a network of blockades and other travel restrictions.

The group accused soldiers and settlers of committing "serious human rights abuses, including unlawful killings, against Palestinians, mostly with impunity." No such killings were documented in the report.

The number of Israelis killed by Palestinian armed groups diminished by half last year, to 27, including 20 civilian adults and one child, the report said.

By The Associated Press' count, 580 people were killed on the Palestinian side and 34 on the Israeli side in 2006.

Amnesty reported a "significant increase" in the launching of homemade rockets by Palestinian armed groups from Gaza into southern Israel, in which two Israeli civilians were killed. The report gave no number for rockets fired and did not quantify the increase.

The report "shows that the conflict can only be solved through diplomacy and not through military methods," the director of Amnesty's Israeli branch, Amnon Vidan, told reporters.

The Israeli military, in a statement, said it "does its utmost to avoid harming innocent people ... in contrast to terror organizations that do their utmost to harm innocent civilians."

It said, without elaborating, that the report was "rife with inaccuracies" and rejected what it called "the attempt to equate terror organizations" with a "democratic state that acts within the confines of the law to exercise its right to defend itself, its sovereign territory, and civilians against terror organizations."

Most of the Palestinians were killed in the course of frequent air and artillery bombardments against the Gaza Strip, though dozens were also killed in the West Bank, Amnesty said. Israeli attacks "escalated dramatically" after Palestinian armed men attacked a military post inside Israel in June 2006, capturing a soldier, the report said.

Amnesty accused Israel of violating the economic and social rights of Palestinians by restricting passage within Palestinian territories and keeping vital cargo and passenger crossings closed for large chunks of time. Israel says it closes the passages because of security concerns, but the closures grew much more frequent after the soldier, who remains in captivity, was seized.

Israel's withholding of hundreds of millions of dollars in tax duties to the Palestinians caused humanitarian conditions in the West Bank and Gaza to deteriorate "to an unprecedented level," the report said. Poverty, food aid dependency, health problems and unemployment have reached "crisis levels," it added.

Israel suspended the tax transfers after Islamic Hamas militants swept Palestinian parliamentary elections. Hamas refuses to renounce violence or recognize Israel's right to exist.

Amnesty criticized Israel for the continued expansion of Jewish settlements and stepped-up construction of a West Bank barrier. Israel says it is building the enclosure to keep out attackers, but the barrier places about 10 percent of the West Bank on the "Israeli" side.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070523/ap_ … el_amnesty
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
Not that two wrongs (one big wrong, one small wrong) make a right but I wonder how many Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinian terrorists in 2006 - I'd say less than 20.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6996|CH/BR - in UK

It's kind of pissing me off how everything they say about Israelis killing Palestinians is in "parentheses" as if it was "questionable". Everyone knows that Israelis kill lots of Palestinians - even people who are pro Israel. If you want to make a pro-Israel article, then reinforce the morality.
But yeah, at least someone's recognizing what's happening.

-konfusion
Ghosty
Member
+3|7119|Leicester,UK
:'(
lets all make a big fire and sing songs. NO NO wait lets get a load of bands, YES bands that think they are the power behind everything AND then get them together round a big fire and then sing songs it worked for Africa! live aid and all that!

ok now for the serious part, shit all will happen to Israel so long as it has the backing of the US and even if they didnt they now have enough fire power to carry on for a very long time. in short "fuck all will happen"

the only way it will stop is my 1st suggestion go find bob geldof im sure hes working on the problem right now.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

CameronPoe wrote:

Not that two wrongs (one big wrong, one small wrong) make a right but I wonder how many Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinian terrorists in 2006 - I'd say less than 20.
I wasn't too far wrong actually - a little research threw up a figure of 23 Palestinian-caused Israeli civilian deaths in 2006. That's a fairly impressive Israeli KDR of 28.26!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-31 03:20:28)

TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7119|Colorado
OP:What's your point of the discussion ? You ask no questions & give no answers, you simply post a news article. Trolling?
The simple truth is that when you fight guerrilla style combat you put all of your civilians at risk and that is what palestine is doing & they accept it. Israel has adopted the over kill logic to try & stop them but it didn't work & never will. Even if palestine & israel really wanted peace it couldn't happen because a lot of other arab nations are fighting a proxy war against them through the palestinians.
The answer is to let them have it out once & for all.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6953

TrollmeaT wrote:

OP:What's your point of the discussion ? You ask no questions & give no answers, you simply post a news article. Trolling?
The simple truth is that when you fight guerrilla style combat you put all of your civilians at risk and that is what palestine is doing & they accept it. Israel has adopted the over kill logic to try & stop them but it didn't work & never will. Even if palestine & israel really wanted peace it couldn't happen because a lot of other arab nations are fighting a proxy war against them through the palestinians.
The answer is to let them have it out once & for all.
Fighting what. Fighting to steal more land and oppress and kill more people. Since when is it a crime to resist a occupation and a invader that steels your land. In 50 years there will be no more west bank left. Every year more and more Palestinians are kicked out so the Israelis can build new settlement.

Last edited by bogo24dk (2007-05-31 04:09:14)

Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649
You think Palestine would get a clue and do something about Hamas.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6953

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

You think Palestine would get a clue and do something about Hamas.
Hamas is the least of the problem. Cause with hamas or no hamas the Israelis still don't think it's favorable for them to make a peace which in term means giving land back to the Palestinians.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

I bet that number would drop if lets say...you do not put rockets on top of an apartment building.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

I bet that number would drop if lets say...you do not put rockets on top of an apartment building.
That's the excuse Israel needs.  Despite the fact the Palestinian extremists are wrong, Israel is using the rocket thing as an excuse to kill more innocent people, to steal more land, and to continue with its policy of terrorism and oppression.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I bet that number would drop if lets say...you do not put rockets on top of an apartment building.
That's the excuse Israel needs.  Despite the fact the Palestinian extremists are wrong, Israel is using the rocket thing as an excuse to kill more innocent people, to steal more land, and to continue with its policy of terrorism and oppression.
So....................take the rockets off the place where women and children live.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-05-31 04:53:03)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7068|London, England
I've always wondered. Say if Palestinians just stopped outright with showing their uber rocketeering skillz and stuff. Surely the Israeli's wouldn't do anything? From what i've been reading over the past couple of years or so, is that they always respond when they start it first. So, as "shameful" to them as it may be, maybe if they simply stopped Quassam'ing places...Israel would stop F-16'ing places, and you could be on the road to peace.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I bet that number would drop if lets say...you do not put rockets on top of an apartment building.
That's the excuse Israel needs.  Despite the fact the Palestinian extremists are wrong, Israel is using the rocket thing as an excuse to kill more innocent people, to steal more land, and to continue with its policy of terrorism and oppression.
So....................take the rockets off the place where women and children live.
Where?  Maybe to West Palm Bank?  Cmon.  They live in a shit hole 20 times smaller than Ohio.
iamangry
Member
+59|7092|The United States of America

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

I bet that number would drop if lets say...you do not put rockets on top of an apartment building.
That's the excuse Israel needs.  Despite the fact the Palestinian extremists are wrong, Israel is using the rocket thing as an excuse to kill more innocent people, to steal more land, and to continue with its policy of terrorism and oppression.
So....................take the rockets off the place where women and children live.
Exactly!  You Palestinian supporters so blindly follow the underdog like its a religion that sometimes you fail to see that BOTH SIDES ARE GUILTY.  If my enemy has rocket launchers on top of an apartment building and is firing into MY country, the dumb ass kids playing catch right next to it are definitely expendable.  If someone's trying to gun you down with a baby strapped to their chest... and you know its their baby, I'm not going to be worried about killing the baby.  That doesn't show how much I value civilian life, it shows how much retard Hamas guy values civilian life.  If you use your own people as a political shield, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.  Not the other side when he says "screw it" and blows up your shit and your people.  Israel doesn't need an excuse to kill Palestinian kids so long as they keep playing hide and go seek along the walls of a UN compound which Hamas is using for cover from reprisals.  As far as the land and terrorism is concerned, its just amazing that the Arabs are so selfish that they cant give the Jews even a whole sliver of land.  If I was Israeli, I'd be trying to take all the high ground too, that way the next time the entire Arab world invades my country, I don't get cluster fucked.
iamangry
Member
+59|7092|The United States of America

sergeriver wrote:

Where?  Maybe to West Palm Bank?  Cmon.  They live in a shit hole 20 times smaller than Ohio.
You know, if I was trying to raise my kids there, and I saw how dangerous that little shithole 20 times smaller than Ohio is... I'd strap on my vest, pray, and GTFO!
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7211|Dallas

iamangry wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Where?  Maybe to West Palm Bank?  Cmon.  They live in a shit hole 20 times smaller than Ohio.
You know, if I was trying to raise my kids there, and I saw how dangerous that little shithole 20 times smaller than Ohio is... I'd strap on my vest, pray, and GTFO!
Go where?  With what money?  With what transportation?  What would you do once you got there?

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

Cougar wrote:

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
Who pays for the rockets and C4?
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire

Cougar wrote:

iamangry wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Where?  Maybe to West Palm Bank?  Cmon.  They live in a shit hole 20 times smaller than Ohio.
You know, if I was trying to raise my kids there, and I saw how dangerous that little shithole 20 times smaller than Ohio is... I'd strap on my vest, pray, and GTFO!
Go where?  With what money?  With what transportation?  What would you do once you got there?

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
Exactly, it's very naive to think 'why don't they just leave?' and beyond that they shouldn't have to leave their native homeland in the first place.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7211|Dallas

usmarine2005 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
Who pays for the rockets and C4?
I doubt very seriously if it is the poor Palestinian family in a refugee camp living in a tent.  Hamas maybe?  Al Queda maybe?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

Cougar wrote:

I doubt very seriously if it is the poor Palestinian family in a refugee camp living in a tent.
I know that.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
Who pays for the rockets and C4?
I doubt very seriously if it is the poor Palestinian family in a refugee camp living in a tent.  Hamas maybe?  Al Queda maybe?
Well said.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire

Cougar wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Easier said than done when you a poor ass Palestinian with no money, no outside ties, and no hope.
Who pays for the rockets and C4?
I doubt very seriously if it is the poor Palestinian family in a refugee camp living in a tent.  Hamas maybe?  Al Queda maybe?
That's why they're all so poor, spending all their money on weapons ...they've no priorities those damn Palestinians.

I doubt Al'Qaeda would have much input into Palestinian affairs, the last thing the Palestinian cause needs is to be associated with those knob jockies. I'd have my money on Hamas buying the kit.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7208

Well duh.  Spend the money on getting them out of tents, not on rockets and C4.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7211|Dallas

Braddock wrote:

Cougar wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Who pays for the rockets and C4?
I doubt very seriously if it is the poor Palestinian family in a refugee camp living in a tent.  Hamas maybe?  Al Queda maybe?
That's why they're all so poor, spending all their money on weapons ...they've no priorities those damn Palestinians.

I doubt Al'Qaeda would have much input into Palestinian affairs, the last thing the Palestinian cause needs is to be associated with those knob jockies. I'd have my money on Hamas buying the kit.
Al Qaeda is anti-Jew are they not?  They have plenty of interest in the Palestinian struggle.

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