Hunter/Jumper
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+117|6801
Child 7 years 2nd Grade Cursed in School ! Effective forms of child discipline, What worked for You.

Basically Good kid, smart. Someone “ double Dog Dared him to say a bad word “ Then told the teacher.

BFD ! at school ! Meetings, etc.

He has a 12 year old brother and takes the bus to school ( kids up to 13 years old on it ) so I know I cant totally limit his exposure, but what can I do to make him realize its not acceptable for some one his age to curse.

But he is tough and stubborn, like a last word freak. Its hard to  bend his will.

When he is allowed to watch  TV and use PS2 again he will  have restricted use.

I took away all movies except ones like “ Disney “
I took away all game Except ones like “ Sonic Hedge hog “

Any experiences ? I am new to this. I never cursed because I was terrified of my dad.

I am not sure this is the way to go.
David.P
Banned
+649|6720
Lol you kind of talk like me now, To your problem, I curse alot everyone knows that(just look at my title) I suggest talking it out with him, See if you restrict something people will do it, If you teach em why it;s wrong then they wont. And dont just say its a bad word he'll wanna know why tell him its something which you should only say if your hurt bad or you only say it when your dyieng (I heard both but i knew what they meant by it)
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7163|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX
If this is his first time to do something like this, the I would ground him, explain to him why he is grounded and why what he did was wrong.  Taking away any of his movies and games that might have foul language in them might help, but if he had already been exposed to them before this incident then there are good odds that they aren't the source of the problem.

If he does it again, than I might suggest something along the lines of grounding and spanking.  I know that a lot of people these days are against physical punishment, but for some kids pain is the only thing that will truly get the message across.
Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6752|Florida
Explain to him what the word meant. He probably didnt see anything that wrong with it. IMO theyre just words, tell him that at his age its not acceptable to say things like that and leave it at that. Tell him that if he has any questions about words that he should ask you, dont just punish him for saying something he probably doesnt know the meaning of.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|7156|England. Stoke
I think perhaps the more important less here for your lad is not perhaps the swearing issue (although I see your concerns and feel that the trouble he has gotten into already may be enough for him to learn his lesson) but that he should not do something that he almost certainly knows is wrong or doesn't want to do, just because someone tries to pressure him into it. And finally that he realises that he should not associate with the snitching fool in the future...
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7093|Peoria
I have never to this day cursed in front of my mother.

1) I have more respect for her than that.

2) Even at 20, I know that incurring the wrath of mom is not a good thing.


I say put the fear of death in him. Nothing like a little physical punishment to straighten a kid out.
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6792|Twyford, UK
Kids will learn dirty words anyway, no use trying to stop it.

Should, however, teach him WHEN to swear, and how to do it properly.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6915
Use a ruler on his arm for a few times. He will curse way less until he is 13 when it is expected he curses.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7153
I never cursed because the only people who I knew who cured were idiots, and I didn't want to sound like them.  Just tell him that people curse when they want attention, like to make something sound important, or a big deal. 
Respectable people don't need to curse to get people to listen to them.  Notice well respected adults don't curse very much at all...
sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|7065|InGerLand
whatever you do make sure you explain it to them, and this applies to way more than just curse words.
"don't patronise children, they arn't dumb they are just new so they don't know what words like oxymoron mean, they still know what one is when they see one" its a sort of quote and i forget who said it but it is good advice.
If a child does something wrong say why it is wrong and why you will punish them, because then they [hopefully] remember it for the times when you arn't around and can't punish them.

Those who wonder "hey this kids only 16 what right has he got to say all this" I used to help teach junior school kids (6 and 7 year olds) to trampoline and have aided rugby events for 10 and 11 year olds as well as activity days for them. I have had to explain to kids why they shouldn't swear, why some things are unsafe, why some things are rules in a certain game, and believe me if you just say 'because' or give no explanation at all they will ignore you and do it when they think you arn't watching or listening because to them it then becomes a fun game to break the rules and not get caught.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7077|Washington, DC

Show him the South Park movie.
JackerP
aka S.J.N.P.0717
+21|6724|Mo Val, Cali
Haha I cursed at another kid in Kindergarten when he cut in front of me for the water fountain.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6892|The Land of Scott Walker
A good spanking never hurt anyone.  Worked on me and I learned right and wrong.  The first time, I'd be told not to say what he said and only get grounded.  Ignorance is valid the first time.  If I asked why at 7, it's because he said so.  He's my Dad and the wooden spoon will meet my butt if I do it again.  I don't like stinging butt cheeks so I don't curse.  When I was older I'd lose privileges if I disobeyed.  A combination of the two might work here.
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6867|Melbourne, AUS

Hurricane wrote:

Show him the South Park movie.
lolol... on a serious note, don't show him the South Park Movie.

as for swearing you can first try to explain why it is unacceptable and not cool.
If he continues to do so regardless, so physical discipline may be needed. I know its considered taboo to beat up children, but at such a young age all thats needed really is to ignore/ dont pay attention to him for a while i.e. don't talk to him and he will refrain from doing it again hopefully.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
I'd go with the deprivation/rewards tactic. No Playstation in exchange for acceptance of the rules. In theory it should always work as long as you punish with something that really means something to the kid. In Ireland swearing is part and parcel of the way we speak the English language but my parents drummed into me a 'no swearing' policy that worked so well that nowadays, as an adult, I feel I can't swear in front of my parents and even more oddly in front of my brothers!!!

Back when I was at primary school the teacher used a) intimidation to curb bad behaviour and if that didn't work b) violence. She used to get every single person in the entire classroom to point at the person who had made the mistake or done something bad and get them all to chant 'OWIOWIOWI...' repeatedly, which for a 6 year old is a little intimidating. She'd then move on to putting you in the corner of the classroom facing into the corner. Finally she'd break out her ruler and rap you edgewise across the palm of your hand (strictly speaking illegal).

Things got even better after Naionáin Móra class. The headmaster used to use an ash branch stripped off bark as a rod to beat you with. Oddly enough he 'retired' citing a 'bad heart' just as allegations of child molestation surfaced about him.... hmmmm.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-31 10:45:13)

Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649
That's terrorism.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6997|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
What is the point of not letting curse at 7 but letting them do it at 18?  My parents told me off when I was younger but now they don't because I'm an adult, I don't get it...
Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|6974|London (At Heart)

Fact is,

cursing in todays society for kids is more common than actually speaking normally.

Go to a playground and you really will only here:

What The F*ck, gimme that c*nting ball back you b*st*rd.
PureFodder
Member
+225|6732
Swearing, such an interesting topic.

Firstly to anyone who refuses to swear, Why the f*ck not? The whole point of these words is to express yourself. They are a useful way to express strong emotions.

Secondly, to people who swear all the time, you're also removing your ability to usefully convey messages of extreme emotion by repeatedly using them in inappropriate situations.

As far as kids go, Tell them some of the common swear words you think they're likely to hear, what they mean and why they shouldn't be used on a regular basis. One of the reasons kids are so attracted to things like swearing is because they are'naughty' and therefore 'exciting'. One of the parts of growing up in a society is to push boundaries to see where the acceptable limits are. If your kids know what swear words are and what they mean it'll remove some alot of the interest in them. Personally the main reason for me not swearing when I want to is other people getting annoyed about it. Don't swear in school as it will get you in trouble is a pretty easy lesson to learn.
jord
Member
+2,382|7125|The North, beyond the wall.
I'd just let it go.

I think most kids know every single swear word by 10. Of course now he knows he's done something wrong and you let it go he'll believe he can get away with anything. So just carry as you were, but in future don't be so harsh.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire

PureFodder wrote:

Swearing, such an interesting topic.

Firstly to anyone who refuses to swear, Why the f*ck not? The whole point of these words is to express yourself. They are a useful way to express strong emotions.

Secondly, to people who swear all the time, you're also removing your ability to usefully convey messages of extreme emotion by repeatedly using them in inappropriate situations.

As far as kids go, Tell them some of the common swear words you think they're likely to hear, what they mean and why they shouldn't be used on a regular basis. One of the reasons kids are so attracted to things like swearing is because they are'naughty' and therefore 'exciting'. One of the parts of growing up in a society is to push boundaries to see where the acceptable limits are. If your kids know what swear words are and what they mean it'll remove some alot of the interest in them. Personally the main reason for me not swearing when I want to is other people getting annoyed about it. Don't swear in school as it will get you in trouble is a pretty easy lesson to learn.
Swearing continuously in all types of situations conveys a lack of tact and even intelligence in my opinion. there's a time and a place for all types of language. To this day I do not swear in front of my mother and only really swear in front of my father if I'm telling him a joke that has swearing in it.

My girlfriend works in early childhood education, I suggest you explain to the kid why it's not right to swear in certain situations and make sure you don't swear in front of him yourself otherwise he'll never understand. A small but meaningful punishment (seen as he's a first time offender) will reinforce his sense of right and wrong.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,073|7218|PNW

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

...but what can I do to make him realize its not acceptable for some one his age to curse.
Restrict cursing in your household, including the adults. Additionally, bribery is an effective way to bend them to your will, and one often used by wizened grandparents (i.e., brush your teeth and keep your gums pink for several months and I'll buy you that Super Soaker) until such a time comes when they can see the advantage of behaving a certain way without outside interference.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

I never cursed because the only people who I knew who cured were idiots, and I didn't want to sound like them.  Just tell him that people curse when they want attention, like to make something sound important, or a big deal. 
Respectable people don't need to curse to get people to listen to them.  Notice well respected adults don't curse very much at all...
Like smashing your head into a door frame? Unimportant, right? If I'm alone and do that, I'll still curse nine times out of ten.

Skorpy-chan wrote:

Kids will learn dirty words anyway, no use trying to stop it.

Should, however, teach him WHEN to swear, and how to do it properly.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-31 09:54:22)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6996|CH/BR - in UK

Hmm - I'd like to see some of the gaming rules enforced. I don't like seeing 10 year olds playing GTA, let alone 7year olds. And furthermore, cut a few TV programs off the list - like Big Brother xD
The first time I swore was around that age, but I whispered it into a friend's ear and laughed about it (I learned 'fuck' around that age - conversation I listened into) - but I think for the kid to have enough courage to say it out loud, someone must not be doing his job right.

-konfusion
chittydog
less busy
+586|7282|Kubra, Damn it!

In the grand scheme of things, I don't believe swearing is that big of a deal. Why is "poop" okay, but "shit" is grounds for punishment? Kids have troubles with this because they lack the years of conditioning that certain words are bad and realize the concept of bad words is bullshit. People who overuse these words (as I do) sound ignorant, but are kids really doing something wrong by repeating them? The only real issue here is not the word itself, but the fact that he knowingly broke the rules.

Of course with no kids of my own (first one's due in January), it's easy for me to make these proclamations.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7276|Denver colorado
find solutions for this while ignoring the 'cuss words' that were said.

People need to remember the context in which the word was said. In this case you should just punish the child for being disrespectful. And tell the kid that cussing At people isn't a good thing.

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