Poll

Islamophobia: Real or Myth?

It's a real form of discrimination and prejudice59%59% - 35
It's a myth created to stop criticism against Islam33%33% - 20
Other6%6% - 4
Total: 59
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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S.Lythberg wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

I voted no because for it to exist you would have to also have Christianophobia, Hinduophobia, Jewophobia etc.  I have never heard any of those terms before have you?

That isn’t saying people can’t discriminate against a Muslim because of his religion but then he would be a bigot or a racist and not an “Islamophobe”.
Anti-semitism?? never heard of it?

Christianophobia certainly does exist in Arab nations, and Indian muslims hate the Hindus as well
You'll find Sikhs, Muslims and Hindus all hate each other. 

It's an Indian Subcontinent thing.  No Arabs in this one!
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It is real. Didn't we kinda go through this here in the HOF thread?
Different questions anyway.  Your point?
Same debate different wording. Obviously if you are asking if Islamaphobia is replacing Antisemitism you are going to get opinions on if it is real or not.
Some people may think it's real but not replacing anti-Semitism, so it's another debate.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

I voted no because for it to exist you would have to also have Christianophobia, Hinduophobia, Jewophobia etc.  I have never heard any of those terms before have you?

That isn’t saying people can’t discriminate against a Muslim because of his religion but then he would be a bigot or a racist and not an “Islamophobe”.
Anti-semitism?? never heard of it?

Christianophobia certainly does exist in Arab nations, and Indian muslims hate the Hindus as well
But antisemitism isn’t the same as “Islamophobia”.  A phobia is a fear of something, in this case Islam, where as antisemitism is the hostility towards people who are semites (i.e  a member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians & Jews), it’s just since WW2, people only tend to use it to describe discrimination against Jews.  Technically no Arab can be anti-Semitic without hating himself.

My point is have one term to describe the ill-treatment of someone because of their religion (whatever it is), there’s no need for a separate word for every faith.
Don't take these words literally.  Both anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are a form of discrimination and hate towards a group of people, based on Religion, ethnicity, etc.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Different questions anyway.  Your point?
Same debate different wording. Obviously if you are asking if Islamaphobia is replacing Antisemitism you are going to get opinions on if it is real or not.
Some people may think it's real but not replacing anti-Semitism, so it's another debate.
There is almost 20 pages to figure out how people feel in the previous thread. I'm letting this go so I don't continue to derail.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Stingray24
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Bubbalo wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

There is no "phobia". . . .

Muslim Extremists ARE a real threat, and need to be captured or killed. . . . .
As opposed to Christian Extremists, who are just plain lovely people.  You should have a cup of tea with them some time.  If you're a pro-choicer you probably shouldn't drink the tea though........................
Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7028|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

There is no "phobia". . . .

Muslim Extremists ARE a real threat, and need to be captured or killed. . . . .
As opposed to Christian Extremists, who are just plain lovely people.  You should have a cup of tea with them some time.  If you're a pro-choicer you probably shouldn't drink the tea though........................
Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Why not?

They're terrorists, they kill people. They're no better.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

Stingray24 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

There is no "phobia". . . .

Muslim Extremists ARE a real threat, and need to be captured or killed. . . . .
As opposed to Christian Extremists, who are just plain lovely people.  You should have a cup of tea with them some time.  If you're a pro-choicer you probably shouldn't drink the tea though........................
Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Where did I say that?

I said Christian Extremists are as bad as Muslim Extremists are as bad as Zen Buddhist Extremists etc.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7281|Kubra, Damn it!

Bubbalo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


As opposed to Christian Extremists, who are just plain lovely people.  You should have a cup of tea with them some time.  If you're a pro-choicer you probably shouldn't drink the tea though........................
Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Where did I say that?

I said Christian Extremists are as bad as Muslim Extremists are as bad as Zen Buddhist Extremists etc.
lolz. The worst a Buddhist Extremist will do is sit down and starve to death to avoid having to kill any other form of life.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6892|The Land of Scott Walker

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

As opposed to Christian Extremists, who are just plain lovely people.  You should have a cup of tea with them some time.  If you're a pro-choicer you probably shouldn't drink the tea though........................
Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Why not?

They're terrorists, they kill people. They're no better.
Sorry?  One or two nutters have gone off the deep end and killed an abortion doctor in the whole history of the pro-life movement.  That certainly doesn't represent the millions of pro-life folks in the US who have condemned violence against abortion providers.
Cerpin_Taxt
Member
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Islamophobia is real, but the word really has no value on this forum with all the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons throwing it around.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Islamophobia is real, but the word really has no value on this forum with all the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons throwing it around.
Oh, and who are those people you are talking about?  Give some examples and explain why you compare them to these characters.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7008

chittydog wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:


Oh come on now.  Pro-lifers are as bad as militant islamists?   I disagree the pro-abortion crowd, but I don't lump them in with suicide bombers and their supporters.
Where did I say that?

I said Christian Extremists are as bad as Muslim Extremists are as bad as Zen Buddhist Extremists etc.
lolz. The worst a Buddhist Extremist will do is sit down and starve to death to avoid having to kill any other form of life.
Zen Buddhists released poison gas on a train in Japan.

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