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Oh no, not another 9-11 onspiracy theorizer!  I have already had to deal with three of these threads!

When the beams were heated up by the jet fuel, they were not just heated up in that area.  The entire steel structure would have been severly weakend by the heat, not just the floors that started the collapse.

mtb0minime wrote:

No one should be allowed to create or endorse a conspiracy theory about 9/11 until they have taken upper-division collegiate courses in basic materials science and mechanics of solids (both statics and deformable). Once you take a few of those classes you should realize (if you haven't already) what a big load of shit these conspiracies are. And even after you've taken (and understood) those topics and you still believe 9/11 is a conspiracy, well congratulations now please go kill yourself and rid the world of your utter stupidity.

I'm majoring in Chemical engineering.

S.Lythberg wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

No one should be allowed to create or endorse a conspiracy theory about 9/11 until they have taken upper-division collegiate courses in basic materials science and mechanics of solids (both statics and deformable). Once you take a few of those classes you should realize (if you haven't already) what a big load of shit these conspiracies are. And even after you've taken (and understood) those topics and you still believe 9/11 is a conspiracy, well congratulations now please go kill yourself and rid the world of your utter stupidity.

I'm majoring in Chemical engineering.

And I'm majoring in Civil Engineering. As a matter of fact I have finals next week for my classes on basic materials engineering and mechanics of deformable solids. Earlier in the semester both classes mentioned properties of steel and both professors (these guys actually have multiple degrees and PhD's, unlike the pack of stupid teens who made loose change) discussed 9/11 and what happened.

A good part, most likely, but definitely not all of it. Do not forget that fuel fires are drastically different than wood ones.

Its impossible for the human mind to truly grasp the effect that such kinetic force can do to an object, and even less with the combined effect of the heat. As an object grows warmer, it becomes softer, thus malleable.

Would you be capable of striking white hot steel with your fist, what do you think would bend more, a room temperature steel beam, or a white hot one?

EDIT- Mechanical Engineer

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S.Lythberg wrote:

good luck with the finals.

Conspiracy theorists drive me nuts though...

Elvis and tupac are dead!
Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy!
20,000 gallons of jet fuel can blow up a building without help!

Conspiracy theorists drive me nuts, too...

I still can't believe people think we actually landed on the moon! This whole conspiracy of sending a spaceship there is ludicrous! Not to mention the Holocaust. Puh-leez. That was made up by the rest of the world to start WWII.

I'm an architect by trade, I have designed and drawn homes and commercial building throughout the midwest for almost 20 years. The towers fell as they should have. Plain and simple. The tower's floor structures, as with most buildings, were built to only hold the live and dead loads of that floor. Once one floor came down on top of the floor below...that was it...that floor can not handle more than it was supposed to and then you have one floor after another taking out the floors below. There are also pictures and videos showing the top of the towers falling over at a severe angle (not enough to topple sideways) but it wasn't as straight down as people think, it depends on what video you see but its quite obvious in a lot of pictures. These jets caused severe damage and basically all it took was for one floor to fail and combined with the weight above, the result is exactly what happened on that day. There was nothing fishy, weird about it. I have talked with many of my friends who are also engineers and architects and we are surprised that it didn't fall or fail faster than it did. When the towers came down...it didn't shock me one bit. The shock was how it happened but thank God nothing has happened since on our soil.

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I miss the old skyline so much.

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golgoj4 wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

I'm an architect by trade and the towers fell as they should have. Plain and simple. The tower's floor structures, as with most buildings, were built to only hold the live and dead loads of that floor. Once one floor came down on top of the floor below...that was it...that floor can not handle more than it was supposed to and then you have one floor after another taking out the floors below. There are also pictures and videos showing the top of the towers falling over at a severe angle (not enough to topple sideways) but it wasn't as straight down as people think, it depends on what video you see but its quite obvious in a lot of pictures. These jets caused severe damage and basically all it took was for one floor to fail and combined with the weight above, the result is exactly what happened on that day. There was nothing fishy, weird about it. I have talked with many of my friends who are also engineers and architects and we are surprised that it didn't fall or fail faster than it did. When the towers came down...it didn't shock me one bit. The shock was how it happened but thank God nothing has happened since on our soil.

your not the frenchie that designed the airport right?

j/k

LOL...NO!!...but i am part Frenchie....

Go engineers.

Everything you have ever know is a lie.




And can we please keep the JFK assassination out of 9/11?

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http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net … 911_morons

Pretty much sums up the whole conspiracy arguement and why the buildings fell.

Meh. Two planes hit the towers. A plane hit the Pentagon.

I don't like the fact that Rummy slipped and said they shot down the fourth plane. That kind of thing isn't something you fuck up saying in private, let alone a press conference.

Now then, the real question is how is it that something like 19 Saudis and a few other men managed to carry out an attack like this without the CIA, NSA or Mossad stopping it.

Bullshit in my opinion. Utter bullshit.