Hunter/Jumper
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How it could start Russians vs. Chinese over South Eastern Siberia ( the Maritime Provinces  }

Despite the plethora of 

“ America want to drop nukes on Xxxx posts “  Posted by frustrated, frothing, regal tinted socialists.

A more plausible situation is as follows.  China want its territories back it lost to Russia in 1858. Chinese school children are taught that this land in south eastern Siberia “ the Maritime Provinces “ belongs to China. As it is Chinese migrate there in numbers that are beginning to alarm the already somewhat paranoid nation of Russia. Russian officials have accused the  Chinese of  to subsidizing this migration. By the year 2020 Chinese will be the areas predominant ethnic group. It could become an issue soon.
Hunter/Jumper
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How it starts,  A Venezuelan Land grab for the Dutch West  Indies

Despite the plethora of 

“ Bush  wants a War to steal  Xxxx for Halliburton! “ posts 

by frustrated,  disenfranchised, communist’s

a more plausible situation is as follows. 

The Venezuelan’s make a Land grab for the Dutch West  Indies. Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire, could the Dutch hold on to these possessions ? Venezuela has no real historical claim to these Islands but it could happen.  If America elects a week willed President who won’t or  can’t  respond even if his countryman are in peril
( Iran 1979 or The World Trade Center attack in 1993 ) would it respond to a n aggressor in its own hemisphere ?  The Dutch  air and Naval arms have big sharp teeth but their Army is comparatively small and the Logistical problems it would face to project its power so far would really hinder its effectiveness and time on station. It would be a ballsy move but it In the eyes of South Americans, It seems like modern Europe lacks the spine and viscera to respond properly even to acts of piracy on the open seas.
It is plausible this could be Chavez‘s view right now.
wachtler83
Member
+22|7032|Columbus,Ohio
mad mutually assured destruction
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002
Israel attacks Iranian nuclear facilities. Attempt fails. Iran throws all it has at Israel and enters Iraq. Israel nukes several Iranian cities. International community, except for US and the Islamic world, enacts complete trade embargo and boycott on both Israel and Iran. Revolt in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in support of attack on Israel - Saudi royal family's hand is forced, can't lose face while Iran represents the Islamic world's fight against Israel. Syria enters Iraq. Lebanon (Hisb'allah) takes on Israel in guerrilla fighting. The US withdraws from Iraq behind Israeli lines, vowing to defend Israel at all costs. Islamic world rounds on Israel. Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia nuked by Israel. Pakistan nukes Israel. Release of nuke by Pakistan prompts India to fire nuke at Pakistan. Mutually assured destruction of Pakistan and India. Middle East decimated. Russia is king due to its massive reserves of oil, coal and gas, given the fact that the middle east has been ruined.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-06-06 17:11:52)

Hunter/Jumper
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Despite the glut of  “ NeoCons and Christian Fundamentalist Lust for Blood ! “ posts 

by discouraged,  depressed,  Commies gone astray.

a more plausible situation is as follows. 


How it starts, In The Falkland Islands  a Re-Occupation of the “ Malvinas “  by Argentina

     If these forums truly represent Great Britain’s emotional state ( I hope, Pray and Seriously Doubt it really does ) and Great Britain is really disenchanted with  Leaders with a strong will. Its doubtful they will Elect another Margaret Thatcher. A Re-Occupation of the “ Malvinas “ comes to mind.

Our un Biased Press had taken to calling “ The Falkland Islands “ the “ Malvinas “
Within hours of  the Argentineans renaming them that in an effort to legitimize their action and undermine our greatest ally at the time during the Cold War . So they couldn’t expect help from the USA if the Liberals get their way this coming Election. If it seems like modern Europe lacks the spine and viscera to respond properly even to acts of piracy on the open seas.
It could happen as Argentina does want it.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2007-06-06 17:33:09)

Ryan
Member
+1,230|7289|Alberta, Canada

To sum it up all these posts:

The world blows up.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6933|Melbourne

How do you imagine WWIII?  Name:
-Main actors
The World.

-Main alliances
UK, EU, USA, AFRICA, AUS & NZ & Parts of middle east.  to Russia, China, North Korea, Japan (possibly), Iran, Parts of middle east   

-Main Scenarios
Battle will fall into the Middle East, and Russia/Asia

-Events preceding and leading to WWIII
Iran develops its nukes, and tests them.  ICBM defense installed in EU by USA.  UN/ Coalition Forces dispatched to defend ICBM installations.  Russia attacks an ICBM defense site.  Israel attack the Hezbollah again.

-Aftermath
Nations will fall, many will die Civi and military alike.  Terrorism will spread like wild fire, and Global chaos will destroy every thing.  Some time into the war, some courageous people will speak out, bringing the war to an end and starting a global golden age.

Last edited by R3v4n (2007-06-06 17:17:46)

~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
Hunter/Jumper
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+117|6801

CameronPoe wrote:

Israel attacks Iranian nuclear facilities. Attempt fails. Iran throws all it has at Israel and enters Iraq. Israel nukes several Iranian cities. International community, except for US and the Islamic world, enacts complete trade embargo and boycott on both Israel and Iran. Revolt in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in support of attack on Israel - Saudi royal family's hand is forced, can't lose face while Iran represents the Islamic world's fight against Israel. Syria enters Iraq. Lebanon (Hisb'allah) takes on Israel in guerrilla fighting. The US withdraws from Iraq behind Israeli lines, vowing to defend Israel at all costs. Islamic world rounds on Israel. Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia nuked by Israel. Pakistan nukes Israel. Release of nuke by Pakistan prompts India to fire nuke at Pakistan. Mutually assured destruction of Pakistan and India. Middle East decimated. Russia is king due to its massive reserves of oil, coal and gas, given the fact that the middle east has been ruined.
not a big fan of Israel The contempt it holds for My Nation or my Nations pandering to it in the past, but the words…

CameronPoe wrote:

Israel attacks Iranian nuclear facilities. Attempt fails..
just doesn’t seem to plausible for realities sake. 
" Russia is king " China would have my money vs Russia.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina
The US invades Iraq, they settle a "democratic government".  A civil war starts.  Meanwhile, Iran develops nukes, at the same time they help the insurgency in Iraq.  Israel attacks Palestine and Lebanon.  All these facts, increase the hatred towards Israel and the US among Arab Nations.  Europe is invaded by a wave of Muslim immigrants, and it loses its identity.  Most people in Europe become Islamophobe.  Several episodes of violence take place all over Europe between Europeans and Muslim immigrants.  More hatred towards the West. 
Kurdistan becomes a nation.  Turkey invades Kurdistan and they kill over a million people, but they deny Genocide.   
At the very same time, Russia cuts diplomatic relations with both the EU and US. 
Meanwhile, in Africa hundreds of thousands of people are dying because of diseases and Genocide.
Venezuela becomes Communist and Chavez joins Iran against Israel and US.
North Korea drops a nuke over Seoul and they destroy a flea market.  China keeps producing cheap goods and takes the lead as World's Superpower.  In Japan Sony launches PS5 starting at 25.000 U$S.  Millions of fans riot in Tokyo.  BF6 is out, but the huge amount of bugs makes the internet collapse.

Now do your maths and you'll have your WWIII.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-06-06 17:57:22)

Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6914

Pubic wrote:

Main Actors/Alliances: UK/USA/EU vs PLA/Russia/MEC
Main Scenarios: Middle east fights, China and mainland USA invaded
Preceding events: Oil/zion wars in the middle east, China seen as a threat by the USA
Aftermath: A shakey peace, intermittent small wars, then a war between the EU and PAC
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Israel attacks Iranian nuclear facilities. Attempt fails. Iran throws all it has at Israel and enters Iraq. Israel nukes several Iranian cities. International community, except for US and the Islamic world, enacts complete trade embargo and boycott on both Israel and Iran. Revolt in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in support of attack on Israel - Saudi royal family's hand is forced, can't lose face while Iran represents the Islamic world's fight against Israel. Syria enters Iraq. Lebanon (Hisb'allah) takes on Israel in guerrilla fighting. The US withdraws from Iraq behind Israeli lines, vowing to defend Israel at all costs. Islamic world rounds on Israel. Iraq, Syria and Saudi Arabia nuked by Israel. Pakistan nukes Israel. Release of nuke by Pakistan prompts India to fire nuke at Pakistan. Mutually assured destruction of Pakistan and India. Middle East decimated. Russia is king due to its massive reserves of oil, coal and gas, given the fact that the middle east has been ruined.
not a big fan of Israel The contempt it holds for My Nation or my Nations pandering to it in the past, but the words…

CameronPoe wrote:

Israel attacks Iranian nuclear facilities. Attempt fails..
just doesn’t seem to plausible for realities sake. 
" Russia is king " China would have my money vs Russia.
Russia: far smaller population, massive mineral wealth and oil/gas/coal reserves.
China: massive population, mineral/oil/gas/coal hungry.

Upper Hand: Russia. [Especially given that China signed a 25 year deal with Iran for fuel, which in the scneario would now be decimated]

As to Iran foiling the Israeli attempt: the Israeli attack on the Osiraq nuclear reactor worked because a) Iraq is relatively close to Israel, b) Iraq was not prepared for such an attack and c) Iraq did not expect such an attack; why it might not work on Iran is because a) Iran is a lot further away than Iraq and has several spread out nuclear sites, b) Iran is prepared for an attack and the bulk of their facilities are deep underground and ringed with AA guns and c) Iran fully expects some kind of attack and is vigilant.

Once bitten, twice shy.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-06-07 02:12:19)

Gillenator
Evils Bammed Sex Machine
+129|6841|Evilsville

Smitty5613 wrote:

How do you imagine WWIII?  Name:
-Main actors
Gays v. Straight people

-Main alliances
Gays v. Lesbians v. Straight Peeps

-Main Scenarios
Gays get AIDs and die, Lesbians are unable to reproduce so they die out. and the straight people raise their kids straight...


-Events preceding and leading to WWIII
Rosie O'Donnel marries Hillary Clinton and finds out she is actually a man and declares war on all men... lesbians everywhere come to her aid

-Aftermath
world is rid of AIDs and fags...
You must be kidding.
You think that AIDS excists because of gay people? That's totall bull....
SmilingBuddha
You laughin' at me, bitch?
+44|7095|Hong Kong

stryyker wrote:

Honk Kong
I haven't heard of that place before, but I have heard of Hong Kong.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

As to Iran foiling the Israeli attempt: the Israeli attack on the Osiraq nuclear reactor worked because a) Iraq is relatively close to Israel, b) Iraq was not prepared for such an attack and c) Iraq did not expect such an attack; why it might not work on Iran is because a) Iran is a lot further away than Iraq and has several spread out nuclear sites, b) Iran is prepared for an attack and the bulk of their facilities are deep underground and ringed with AA guns and c) Iran fully expects some kind of attack and is vigilant.

Once bitten, twice shy.
I wasn't really referring to the 1980 strike which was barley mentioned in the USA btw " Israel does nothing wrong ! "

I just mean their Intel is world class. Their armed forces act with total ruthless efficiency and they act with a sense of reality most nations cant reproduce.  They are secure in the knowledge that “ celebrities “ and  their own government wont sell them out or commit acts of treason to get elected.

I know the USA Air Force or even just our Navy could kick their asses ( and Russia’s too...sorry ) but I wouldn't want that war ever. Israel would make you pay hard …very  HARD
CameronPoe
Member
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I wasn't really referring to the 1980 strike which was barley mentioned in the USA btw " Israel does nothing wrong ! "

I just mean their Intel is world class. Their armed forces act with total ruthless efficiency and they act with a sense of reality most nations cant reproduce.  They are secure in the knowledge that “ celebrities “ and  their own government wont sell them out or commit acts of treason to get elected.

I know the USA Air Force or even just our Navy could kick their asses ( and Russia’s too...sorry ) but I wouldn't want that war ever. Israel would make you pay hard …very  HARD
Israeli leaders have in the past been assassinated for what hardliners would have described as 'acts of treason', that treason being in the eye of the beholder.

I'd wager that if there was parity of numbers Israel would be able to hand America its ass on a plate. Ruthlessness wins out all the time when the technology is there. And what's the obsession with Russia? USAF kicks Russia's ass -> San Francisco, New York, Chicago, LA, Miami, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia, Washington, Seattle and Boston turn into radioactive wastegrounds.
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6958|Gold Coast
Give it time, and the Middle East will be New Africa. Oil will go, and there will be no money in it. People will be poorer if not dead from starvation. The fight is in the Northern Hemisphere. IMHO, Israel wins out of Arab nations, it has aid of US. Therefore can live longer than un-aided Arab countries will people blowing themselves up. Alaska is screwed, South Korea and Taiwan are taken, so US pulls out of Iraq etc, and sends them to fight the Chinese & Russians. Since Israel are crazy and has backing of US, assume has nuclear arsenal. If there are crazy leaders, then this shit goes nuclear, but US & allies dont want, neither do Russia etc. Its kinda like C&C, where the third world countries are now under NOD rule, and thats the only way where people can live: fighting one another in a pointless war. Asia is still there, and possibly fought over for minerals and supplies. Australia constantly fought over for uranium to increase arsenal potential (if they want, or its the situation where if they want it, then we want it too). South America taken by movement from Africa, as Russian/Chinese/Korean forces use it for supplies (oil) and a military stronghold. US, Canada (maybe) and EU are only safe-ish places on the planet. All other zones are rendered too hostile by US and allies. Soviets/Chinese/Koreans are bragging about attacks, and use it for propaganda. After invasion of Axis powers, Poland, East Europe, Asia, Mexican border and coastal regions are always fought over. Axis take control, and the world is under Russian/Chinese/Korean/Terrorist (maybe) rule. The world is fucked.

Alternatively:
Middle East is still fucked, with no wealth, no money and starving people. Sovs go in, try to recruit, some successful, some not. US holds back Alaska, and South East Asia is protected by increased US presence in the area. South Korea fucked, and US pulls out to Wake/Midway. EU sends forces to Africa, and struggles to hold. Surprise attack on Australia by China, and captures key uranium and ore deposits. US sends troops to South America, where an invasion is held off. Cuba gets anally raped. EU has stronger presence in Middle East, and sends back Soviets and Chinese. Korea tries to rape Taiwan, but US pwns Korea. China has a go, and captures half of the island. US then goes offense, and blows China to the sea. Australia and New Zealand SAS forces take out some key Chinese targets, and China then increases numbers. US uses air power to rape them, then China retreats. Soviets send China stuff, and increases defense of mainland. US and EU controls their own land, Middle East, Africa, some of Asia and South America. Russia, China and Korea increase defense of mainlands. US then launches offense from Alaska, capturing key Russian oil fields. EU attacks, and is on a stalemate with Russia and China. US sends supplies, and with increased power, force back the axis powers. US captures Korean peninsula, but with considerable losses. Russia sends forces to force them to the sea, and Korea is again split. EU and US then push forward, capturing Moscow with incredible force. With this, Russia is then morally disintergrated, and send forces to help hold China. China gets raped, and we capture Beijing. US and EU now control Russia and China, and Korea is anally fucked, so Korea = dead. China becomes New California, and Russia becomes New France.
Fortunately there are no nukes involved.
/end story.

Edit: My biggest post evar?

Last edited by KuSTaV (2007-06-08 03:00:55)

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Smitty5613
Member
+46|6973|Middle of nowhere, California

Gillenator wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

How do you imagine WWIII?  Name:
-Main actors
Gays v. Straight people

-Main alliances
Gays v. Lesbians v. Straight Peeps

-Main Scenarios
Gays get AIDs and die, Lesbians are unable to reproduce so they die out. and the straight people raise their kids straight...


-Events preceding and leading to WWIII
Rosie O'Donnel marries Hillary Clinton and finds out she is actually a man and declares war on all men... lesbians everywhere come to her aid

-Aftermath
world is rid of AIDs and fags...
You must be kidding.
You think that AIDS excists because of gay people? That's totall bull....
lemme guess, u blame it on monkeys in africa right??? AIDs is what someone gets after gettin screwed in the ass by a guy... semen isn't supposed to go in that hole....
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

Smitty5613 wrote:

Gillenator wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

How do you imagine WWIII?  Name:
-Main actors
Gays v. Straight people

-Main alliances
Gays v. Lesbians v. Straight Peeps

-Main Scenarios
Gays get AIDs and die, Lesbians are unable to reproduce so they die out. and the straight people raise their kids straight...


-Events preceding and leading to WWIII
Rosie O'Donnel marries Hillary Clinton and finds out she is actually a man and declares war on all men... lesbians everywhere come to her aid

-Aftermath
world is rid of AIDs and fags...
You must be kidding.
You think that AIDS excists because of gay people? That's totall bull....
lemme guess, u blame it on monkeys in africa right??? AIDs is what someone gets after gettin screwed in the ass by a guy... semen isn't supposed to go in that hole....
Apparently, some people have semen in the brain too.  So, if you get laid with a woman, you don't need to take care at all?

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-06-08 08:03:29)

Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649

Gillenator wrote:

You must be kidding.
You think that AIDS excists because of gay people? That's totall bull....
It doesn't exist because of gay people, but it is easier to catch HIV through buttsex than vaginal sex.

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-06-08 10:29:29)

Cerpin_Taxt
Member
+155|6649

CameronPoe wrote:

Russia: far smaller population, massive mineral wealth and oil/gas/coal reserves.
China: massive population, mineral/oil/gas/coal hungry.

Upper Hand: Russia.
That, and Russian tech beats Chinese numbers.

CameronPoe wrote:

why it might not work on Iran is because a) Iran is a lot further away than Iraq and has several spread out nuclear sites, b) Iran is prepared for an attack and the bulk of their facilities are deep underground and ringed with AA guns and c) Iran fully expects some kind of attack and is vigilant.

Once bitten, twice shy.
An attack would be risky, but I do believe the US has recently sold some 500 bunker busters to Israel.
bigdroo
Member
+7|6873|Yooahss-ayy!
It's frightening to me that I agree so much with CameronPoe's remarks. Even the Israel/Iran conflict. Israel would simply not be able to make a "surgical strike" to disable Iran's nuclear efforts. It would take pretty near an all out Israeli war to do it. Iran isn't stupid. Some of their facilities are widely scattered and buried DEEP.

It does seem a little odd though that so many here have mentioned North Korea, South Korea, and China, but there has been no mention of Japan. To my knowledge, Japan does have a rather large standing army and they have frequently been considering changing their pacifist constitution. Generally, they would be on the US/SK side, and they're pretty well equipped. It would be a certainty that Japan would come to SK's aid in a fighting conflict if the US turned more isolationist...

Of course, I believe that MOST predicted conflicts involving China and the United States simply wouldn't happen. Why? Capitalism. China doesn't want to make their #1 customer too terribly angry. It's bad for business.

Last edited by bigdroo (2007-06-08 10:59:36)

Smitty5613
Member
+46|6973|Middle of nowhere, California

sergeriver wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

Gillenator wrote:


You must be kidding.
You think that AIDS excists because of gay people? That's totall bull....
lemme guess, u blame it on monkeys in africa right??? AIDs is what someone gets after gettin screwed in the ass by a guy... semen isn't supposed to go in that hole....
Apparently, some people have semen in the brain too.  So, if you get laid with a woman, you don't need to take care at all?
not if u wanna have babies, and u stick it in the right hole... and she has no diseases
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7067|London, England
Jihad Joe takes over Pak-Stan, aquires nuke facilities
Joe gives some to Jihad Jim (Terror cells), who bombs Israel
Meanwhile, Joe fires some at India
Joe and Jim, being stupid Jihadies, don't realise that using nukes against countries with nukes = not a good idea
Joe, being the easily identifiable enemy. Bears the huge brunt of the retaliation.
Jim gets the rest of the bombs and bombs world citys the "dirty" way

And well the shit hits the fan because a nation-less/flagless group have got nukes and bomb major cities around the world (yay, i live in the capital of the UK).


Except Australia, but they'll die soon too.

Fags.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-06-08 14:57:25)

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