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good aim, no knowledge of how to move, and too accurate knowledge of where you are.
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What I have learnt is when some one snaps to you and kills you with one shot is defiantly an aim bot. Another is the shooting through walls, easy to find. If some one kills three people in a row with out reloading that's pretty fishy. Check UAV for inside wall hacks. Oh and another one is macro use. If you see them going prone then getting up really quickly and they do it a lot then they are using macros. Same goes for that dolphin dive that you can not seem to hit. That's a macro too. The one thing that surprises me is that EA considers anyone that has gone 32 for 0 in a round a hack. According to them you can not go a whole round without dieing it is impossible. Go figure.
1. Really? On full or single? I'm talking about the people who have their guns on single.Bernadictus wrote:
1. Aiming. I am pretty good with the MP7 in the HS department. So that is bullshit.
2. -
3. Could be the UAV, or a sense of timing.
4. That could be evading skills of the pilot/driver.
5. That is offcourse undeniable.
2. I meant that they are hiding and dropping uav's and shit on the enemy team to fuck with them(I've seen it happen alot on jalalabad)
3.Nope i was playing with a guy like that. On kark were mec by square uav was on hotel, He jumps around the corner and gets 3 kills.
4.That could be also true but once on warlord the guy was facing the plaza and my rpg came from parking garage, He moved away at just the right moment.(After i pulled the trigger he reverses)
5. Glad we could agree on something.
Personally, I just trust my instict....
I have played 300~ hours of the game, but have built up a knowledge of what can happen in the game- which is practically anything.
I never call people hacks for expecting me, there is too much going on in the battlefield to say that you "hadn't been seen"- there are UAV's, and even if you UAV ended a while ago, good player can use their instincts to find where you went. You get people spotting you, or he could have seen you going in that direction earlier, died, spawned back, and killed you. He could have heard you- you can hear footsteps on the battlefield if your sound is set to medium, and you can also hear the enemies voices.
I don't know what makes me call "hack"- its just i get a suspision about them, but I never complain, as i do know what can (and has happened to me) in the game.
I have emptied magazines into people, only to have them jump round and kill my in two shots, but likewise, i have done it to people as well.
I have jumped round corners and someehow killed all 3-4 enemy- lucky, of course.
I have killed people even though they have completely disappeared around the corner
I have killed people with one shot, by accident....
Anything can happen on the battlefield
I have played 300~ hours of the game, but have built up a knowledge of what can happen in the game- which is practically anything.
I never call people hacks for expecting me, there is too much going on in the battlefield to say that you "hadn't been seen"- there are UAV's, and even if you UAV ended a while ago, good player can use their instincts to find where you went. You get people spotting you, or he could have seen you going in that direction earlier, died, spawned back, and killed you. He could have heard you- you can hear footsteps on the battlefield if your sound is set to medium, and you can also hear the enemies voices.
I don't know what makes me call "hack"- its just i get a suspision about them, but I never complain, as i do know what can (and has happened to me) in the game.
I have emptied magazines into people, only to have them jump round and kill my in two shots, but likewise, i have done it to people as well.
I have jumped round corners and someehow killed all 3-4 enemy- lucky, of course.
I have killed people even though they have completely disappeared around the corner
I have killed people with one shot, by accident....
Anything can happen on the battlefield
Last edited by Titch2349 (2007-06-10 07:49:33)
most of the people posting really dont know what hacks are actually available and what they could do with the hacks so just keep on playing and forget about the hack accusations unless it's blatantly obvious. I've done better than 61-2 with an LMG and I don't hack so K/D ratios are pretty much worthless point. As long as you can aim and have good reaction time, you can usually beat most hackers.
Last edited by jgrahl (2007-06-10 07:51:11)
Standing in one spot with any weapon, generally sniper... if this happens i watch them for the telltale snaps that any aimbot user has
incredible kdr as a sniper... if that happens i generally watch whoever the sniper is and if they look hax then i open up fraps
other than that its pretty hard to tell an aimbotter unless you see him do the snap several times with a headshot weapon, because most aimbot users who are using the rifles aren't that great and because of hitbox lag they aren't that hard to kill. The worst though are the skilled hackers, who use hacks to supplement their skills. Team hybrid hacked a ton, but they were fair players already, so they could pull off a degree of their hacking without looking suspicious and still be amazing. Of course, after their second or third time through they gave up because no one would play with them
incredible kdr as a sniper... if that happens i generally watch whoever the sniper is and if they look hax then i open up fraps
other than that its pretty hard to tell an aimbotter unless you see him do the snap several times with a headshot weapon, because most aimbot users who are using the rifles aren't that great and because of hitbox lag they aren't that hard to kill. The worst though are the skilled hackers, who use hacks to supplement their skills. Team hybrid hacked a ton, but they were fair players already, so they could pull off a degree of their hacking without looking suspicious and still be amazing. Of course, after their second or third time through they gave up because no one would play with them
WTH? Lots of players can do that legit, with a few of the guns (all of the SRs of course).Scardaddy wrote:
What I have learnt is when some one snaps to you and kills you with one shot is defiantly an aim bot.
Macros aren't hacks.Scardaddy wrote:
Oh and another one is macro use. If you see them going prone then getting up really quickly and they do it a lot then they are using macros.
How's that? If that's the case then I'll be wiped soon since that's my exact kill streak (no-death round on Ghost Town).Scardaddy wrote:
The one thing that surprises me is that EA considers anyone that has gone 32 for 0 in a round a hack. According to them you can not go a whole round without dieing it is impossible. Go figure.
I never call someone out for an Aimbot, unless I am kidding them because they owned me.
I remember once on Warlord I was near the chopper wreckage next to the TV station, and an enemy was in the MG tower by the Security Office flag. I was taking MG fire so I ran at the Tower at a forty five degree angle to get to cover. I couldn't even see him, I could barely see the outline of the tower and the MG muzzle flash. I squeezed maybe 3 rounds off of my AK (i think it was AK) and nailed the guy in the head.
"RoosterCantrell is hacking!"
So, incredible shots do happen.
But, I have only caught a few Hackers (and a TON of Glitchers). the best is when someone gets two or three supply drops, when there is no commander. Easiest way to tell.
I remember once on Warlord I was near the chopper wreckage next to the TV station, and an enemy was in the MG tower by the Security Office flag. I was taking MG fire so I ran at the Tower at a forty five degree angle to get to cover. I couldn't even see him, I could barely see the outline of the tower and the MG muzzle flash. I squeezed maybe 3 rounds off of my AK (i think it was AK) and nailed the guy in the head.
"RoosterCantrell is hacking!"
So, incredible shots do happen.
But, I have only caught a few Hackers (and a TON of Glitchers). the best is when someone gets two or three supply drops, when there is no commander. Easiest way to tell.
Isn't that the point of the kit? Seriously though, IAR or in their stats?Blehm98 wrote:
incredible kdr as a sniper...
Word. That and the smart user, who isn't deliberately trying to make it obvious.Blehm98 wrote:
The worst though are the skilled hackers, who use hacks to supplement their skills.
Just want to clear it up that there's one type of solid-looking fence in the game that you can shoot through with almost anything. Mashtuur's power station has such a fence (your best odds are to spray the fence with a tank/humvee machinegun to take down flag-cappers safely). Karkand has a couple of such fences in Grenadespam Lane, and I've killed a few people (by using assault rifles/SMGs) that thought it was safe to hide in a corner with the fence as "cover".[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
5. ...You can NOT shoot through walls at all. No hack will do this for you.
It's no wall, but if you see someone shooting through the fence with incredible accuracy (and especially with a sniper rifle)... yeah.
Last edited by Kenthar (2007-06-10 08:14:34)
There's an amazing amount of BS in this thread. Anyone who says "no one can be that good" is clueless and usually inexperienced. I don't care if it's five headshots in 2 seconds--if it's possible to do, someone can do it. Either because they are skilled or lucky. You have to look for things that have nothing to do with skill or luck, like a dozen supply crates falling, or glitchers inside a building.
As a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks.
As a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks.
I know people are hacking when suddenly my crispy clear game becomes a glitchy mess and I can't even aim properly or climb a ladder. Or I'll be walking along and all of a sudden I'm looking at the ground. I will have my crosshairs on someone and then just as I shoot , I find myself staring at the sky! REALLY, REALLY, annoying! I find it happens alot if I am doing really well or its close to a win for our side. Other signs of cheating/hacking: half of peoples bodies hanging out of a wall or garbage dumpster, jumping while grenading, one shot roll kills, double grenades, etc. I also h8 it when I'm kicked to the losing team at the last second, cheap and poor sportsmanship, I mean c'mon I'm trying to get my next unlock, and I get more points for winning! If you have to cheat, why play at all? It is just a game, why not try to get better without cheating? Then maybe this shit would all mean something, and stats would be accurate, and EA would sell more copies cause no one bitches about it.
if the player is called shadow_ownz or lucid
Religion=WAR wrote:
I know people are hacking when suddenly my crispy clear game becomes a glitchy mess and I can't even aim properly or climb a ladder. Or I'll be walking along and all of a sudden I'm looking at the ground. I will have my crosshairs on someone and then just as I shoot , I find myself staring at the sky! REALLY, REALLY, annoying! I find it happens alot if I am doing really well or its close to a win for our side. Other signs of cheating/hacking: half of peoples bodies hanging out of a wall or garbage dumpster, jumping while grenading, one shot roll kills, double grenades, etc. I also h8 it when I'm kicked to the losing team at the last second, cheap and poor sportsmanship, I mean c'mon I'm trying to get my next unlock, and I get more points for winning! If you have to cheat, why play at all? It is just a game, why not try to get better without cheating? Then maybe this shit would all mean something, and stats would be accurate, and EA would sell more copies cause no one bitches about it.
you WERE joking right?
Tell that to all the admins who've banned me in the past without proofAs a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks.
Last edited by Jameseyy (2007-06-10 08:32:16)
What do mean joking, are you some nieve admin or what? anyone can do anything on a computer, how would we know who made a new hack or cheat or glitch? Don't assume your ever right about anything!Jameseyy wrote:
Religion=WAR wrote:
I know people are hacking when suddenly my crispy clear game becomes a glitchy mess and I can't even aim properly or climb a ladder. Or I'll be walking along and all of a sudden I'm looking at the ground. I will have my crosshairs on someone and then just as I shoot , I find myself staring at the sky! REALLY, REALLY, annoying! I find it happens alot if I am doing really well or its close to a win for our side. Other signs of cheating/hacking: half of peoples bodies hanging out of a wall or garbage dumpster, jumping while grenading, one shot roll kills, double grenades, etc. I also h8 it when I'm kicked to the losing team at the last second, cheap and poor sportsmanship, I mean c'mon I'm trying to get my next unlock, and I get more points for winning! If you have to cheat, why play at all? It is just a game, why not try to get better without cheating? Then maybe this shit would all mean something, and stats would be accurate, and EA would sell more copies cause no one bitches about it.
you WERE joking right?Tell that to all the admins who've banned me in the past without proofAs a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks.
Religion=WAR wrote:
What do mean joking, are you some nieve admin or what? anyone can do anything on a computer, how would we know who made a new hack or cheat or glitch? Don't assume your ever right about anything!Jameseyy wrote:
Religion=WAR wrote:
I know people are hacking when suddenly my crispy clear game becomes a glitchy mess and I can't even aim properly or climb a ladder. Or I'll be walking along and all of a sudden I'm looking at the ground. I will have my crosshairs on someone and then just as I shoot , I find myself staring at the sky! REALLY, REALLY, annoying! I find it happens alot if I am doing really well or its close to a win for our side. Other signs of cheating/hacking: half of peoples bodies hanging out of a wall or garbage dumpster, jumping while grenading, one shot roll kills, double grenades, etc. I also h8 it when I'm kicked to the losing team at the last second, cheap and poor sportsmanship, I mean c'mon I'm trying to get my next unlock, and I get more points for winning! If you have to cheat, why play at all? It is just a game, why not try to get better without cheating? Then maybe this shit would all mean something, and stats would be accurate, and EA would sell more copies cause no one bitches about it.
you WERE joking right?Tell that to all the admins who've banned me in the past without proofAs a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks.
Holy shit, don't ever stop posting here. Comedy goldmine, wow.
Actually, you can shoot through walls without having a hack.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
5. No such thing AGAIN. You can NOT shoot through walls at all. No hack will do this for you.
Just look for any of those wooden walls and some guns will shoot through it. AK 101 and PKM do for sure. So next time you're on Karkand and see a guy hiding behind a wooden wall, waiting for you to pop out, just shoot to where he is on the wall and you might get a kill.
Here on earth we'd call it a fence.Smithereener wrote:
Actually, you can shoot through walls without having a hack.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
5. No such thing AGAIN. You can NOT shoot through walls at all. No hack will do this for you.
Just look for any of those wooden walls and some guns will shoot through it. AK 101 and PKM do for sure. So next time you're on Karkand and see a guy hiding behind a wooden wall, waiting for you to pop out, just shoot to where he is on the wall and you might get a kill.
Right, had a brain fart and couldn't come up with a suitable word for it. lol. Then again, fence might evoke the image of chain link fences we all know we can shoot through. It's amusing when some guy hides behind a wooden fence only to get shot and cry out hacks.Jameseyy wrote:
Here on earth we'd call it a fence.Smithereener wrote:
Actually, you can shoot through walls without having a hack.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
5. No such thing AGAIN. You can NOT shoot through walls at all. No hack will do this for you.
Just look for any of those wooden walls and some guns will shoot through it. AK 101 and PKM do for sure. So next time you're on Karkand and see a guy hiding behind a wooden wall, waiting for you to pop out, just shoot to where he is on the wall and you might get a kill.
how about when he kills me without having seen me or when I'm on his back shooting straight at his back and I see him shooting the other way but he kills me
You cant shoot through solid wall without glitching. You can shoot through the fences of course but non hackers can do that too. Shooting through the fence screws up the accuracy of the bullets though. But you cant shoot through the hotel building to the other side or anything unless your glitching. No hack will do this.Smithereener wrote:
Right, had a brain fart and couldn't come up with a suitable word for it. lol. Then again, fence might evoke the image of chain link fences we all know we can shoot through. It's amusing when some guy hides behind a wooden fence only to get shot and cry out hacks.Jameseyy wrote:
Here on earth we'd call it a fence.Smithereener wrote:
Actually, you can shoot through walls without having a hack.
Just look for any of those wooden walls and some guns will shoot through it. AK 101 and PKM do for sure. So next time you're on Karkand and see a guy hiding behind a wooden wall, waiting for you to pop out, just shoot to where he is on the wall and you might get a kill.
"As a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks."
PB screenshots can be blocked by really good hacks like AA that just give clean screenshots so no, clean PBSS doesnt mean that they arent hacking.
sounds to me like it's your internet lagging. make sure nobody's dling on your network while you play.RECONDO67 wrote:
how about when he kills me without having seen me or when I'm on his back shooting straight at his back and I see him shooting the other way but he kills me
there is no hacks that allow players to change the physics of the game, they can't shoot in directions that they're not aiming.
Oh, I understood what you meant. Sorry, I just assumed that when you said something along the lines of can't shoot through solid objects, I took it too literally.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
You cant shoot through solid wall without glitching. You can shoot through the fences of course but non hackers can do that too. Shooting through the fence screws up the accuracy of the bullets though. But you cant shoot through the hotel building to the other side or anything unless your glitching. No hack will do this.Smithereener wrote:
Right, had a brain fart and couldn't come up with a suitable word for it. lol. Then again, fence might evoke the image of chain link fences we all know we can shoot through. It's amusing when some guy hides behind a wooden fence only to get shot and cry out hacks.Jameseyy wrote:
Here on earth we'd call it a fence.
"As a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks."
PB screenshots can be blocked by really good hacks like AA that just give clean screenshots so no, clean PBSS doesnt mean that they arent hacking.
Well, to answer the OP, the only hack that I've ever experienced was the commander hack and the SVD thing. I mean, this one guy fired off his whole clip in less than 2-3 seconds killing at least 3-5 people (when the groups he was firing at were that big). So for some reason, whenever I hear an SVD going off like a machine gun, I look at the kills list.
Theres a couple of solid brick walls and solid concrete road barriers on Karkand you can shoot thrugh .... also the best way to take out the glitchers in hotel and square was poke a tank barrel through the wall and blown them to cheater hell ...... haven't seen any glitchers for awhile so not 100% sure if you can still do that.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
You cant shoot through solid wall without glitching. You can shoot through the fences of course but non hackers can do that too. Shooting through the fence screws up the accuracy of the bullets though. But you cant shoot through the hotel building to the other side or anything unless your glitching. No hack will do this.Smithereener wrote:
Right, had a brain fart and couldn't come up with a suitable word for it. lol. Then again, fence might evoke the image of chain link fences we all know we can shoot through. It's amusing when some guy hides behind a wooden fence only to get shot and cry out hacks.Jameseyy wrote:
Here on earth we'd call it a fence.
"As a general rule, people shouldn't be kicked for hacking unless there are PB screenshots. Otherwise there's too much room for abuse by admins who refuse to believe there are people out there who can own them every time without hacks."
PB screenshots can be blocked by really good hacks like AA that just give clean screenshots so no, clean PBSS doesnt mean that they arent hacking.
I've seen alot of dodgie and called out one or two guys in totally frustration the only true hack Ive seen ( beyond the commander hack ) is the dood who snapped and mowed down my whole squad with his fully automatic L96A1 that one was pretty obvious .......
P.S.
and the guy who had all kits running down the empty road snapping of anti tank missiles throwing ammo and medic bags and sniping ....... looked for his golf bag to carry it all but couldn't find it.
Fired of a screen shot and such to EA but nothing every happened bookmarked his stats and used to check them every now and then but they never changed and I have'nt seen him on Aussie servers for about 12 months.
Last edited by Hurlin (2007-06-10 09:22:27)
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