That deadsquirrel vid is extremely suspicious. I know that when I shoot like he does with the AK-101, I don't get that many hits that quickly, and that accurately and that range, even with static targets. My aim is perfectly fine with static targets.
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Have you ever seen the walkin through wall hack? I had a screenie on my old pc i think i can retrieve it.mr. LuxusLexus wrote:
It`s a game. If some losers want to fuck up their own and my experience i simply switch server.
I used to play a lot of CSS and there hacking is a serious fucking issue. In BF2 its not that devastating to the game if one player hacks - well maybe on an IO map, but i only play with vehicles
No recoil/spread isnt really what it seems its just the gun snapping to the head or whatever body part its set to aim at over and over so it just looks like it but the bullet deviation is still there. As far as I know there is no hack that blows up SRAWs in midair over and over. Maybe the guy was jumping out and repairing so you didnt get the hitmarker and some servers turn that off. The way you describe it its not a hack. Hacks in FEAR involve pressing a button and killing the entire other team, killing enemies without using bullets, god mode, infinite ammo flying out of the guns like infinite repeating cannon or throwing 999999999999 nades at once causing extreme lag, forcing the server to deathmatch, banning admins and players, etc. But they are very expensive.David.Podedworny wrote:
Thats what i've been trying to say![NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
Ive seen hackers in CS and CSS before. X-ray vision is just another form of wallhack.Yes there is, There are many different kinds of aimbots. Recoil less and Spread less aswell.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
Automatic headshots.. there is NO such thing, its just an aimbot and a guy with good accuracy. Spread and recoil applies even with an aimbot.Dude you wanna know why i say its a hack? Because on kark i'm on top of the freakin hotel the apc is below me next to the square mounted mg, It's comin towards the hotel, I fire off a SRAW round, And it blows i dont see the crosshair that shows up after you hit something, I'm like wtf? I fire again and same result. So i jump off the hotel and land at least 20m from the flag, It's right next to the flag, I fire off another sound and same thing happens, He turns around and kills me.[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
Ive seen nearly every hacking video for BF2. The SRAW thing could have been a bug or pure luck, Ive accidentally blew up AT rounds in midair before. I agree completely, bf2 hacks suck compared to hacks for CS and FEAR.
CS hacks are a plenty, Bf2 not so much, Never played fear so i cant say.
Last edited by [NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] (2007-06-10 15:11:15)
DrunkenPirate wrote:
You're so paranoid it's not even funny.David.Podedworny wrote:
1. Constant kills with the same weapon in a row when they are supposed to be out of ammo.(That means headshot aimbot)
2. Hiding behind enemy lines and not attacking while uav/supplies/vehicles/arty are being deployed in that area.(commander hacks)
3. Always knowing when to go dive around a corner.(X-ray vision hack)
4. In armor always backing up when an rpg rocket is coming and letting it crash into the ground, Or with Laser guided missles it somehow explodes before them giving no damage.(Lock on hack and Avoidance hack)
5. Facing a wall with either an Svd,G3,L85,AK47, or any other gun which deals one hit kill headshots.(Wall hack to the extreme!)
Thanks for the good laugh.
As for what I look for, usually someone hitting people from beyond veiw distance while they are running consistantly.... sniping of course.
as for the rest, I look for punkbuster screen shots.
I did see a guy with the DAO-12 making multiple 30m+ kills with the same clip consistantly one time, along with some pretty suspicious rpg kills, and then one of the admin on the server said he spawned at a nutralized flag in front of him... he said he spawned on his squad leader, but he was the commander, so...
as for the rest, I look for punkbuster screen shots.
I did see a guy with the DAO-12 making multiple 30m+ kills with the same clip consistantly one time, along with some pretty suspicious rpg kills, and then one of the admin on the server said he spawned at a nutralized flag in front of him... he said he spawned on his squad leader, but he was the commander, so...
take a look on his stats. if someone with a constantly bad statistic starts to play godlike, it might be suspicious - but still not a proof.
there aren´t many cheaters out there... at least, less than many think there are.. and accusing someone for hacking, who isn´t, is always a compliment for him.
there aren´t many cheaters out there... at least, less than many think there are.. and accusing someone for hacking, who isn´t, is always a compliment for him.
I can shoot all 10 rounds very accurately with the SVD in about 1.5 seconds. I'm one of the few players who actually plays legit and can pwn something fierce with that gun.Shem wrote:
svd going... boom boom boom boom boom within a fraction of a second.
Anyways, the only time I've called someone for a hack is when he killed 14 people with one clip of the SVD. All consecutively mind you.
It looked something like this
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo1
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo2
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo3
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo4
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo5
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo6
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo7
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo8
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo9
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo10
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo11
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo12
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo13
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo14
Yea because a 10 round clip can kill 14 people... You cant even kill 10 people with one clip, you are BOUND to miss at least 3 or 4 shots.-|TS|-owNzu7 wrote:
I can shoot all 10 rounds very accurately with the SVD in about 1.5 seconds. I'm one of the few players who actually plays legit and can pwn something fierce with that gun.Shem wrote:
svd going... boom boom boom boom boom within a fraction of a second.
Anyways, the only time I've called someone for a hack is when he killed 14 people with one clip of the SVD. All consecutively mind you.
It looked something like this
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo1
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo2
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo3
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo4
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo5
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo6
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo7
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo8
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo9
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo10
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo11
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo12
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo13
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo14
NOT IF YOU HAVE THE UNLIMITED AMMO HAXOR!!!11!!!1 THAT WOULD SUCK LOL[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
Yea because a 10 round clip can kill 14 people... You cant even kill 10 people with one clip, you are BOUND to miss at least 3 or 4 shots.-|TS|-owNzu7 wrote:
I can shoot all 10 rounds very accurately with the SVD in about 1.5 seconds. I'm one of the few players who actually plays legit and can pwn something fierce with that gun.Shem wrote:
svd going... boom boom boom boom boom within a fraction of a second.
Anyways, the only time I've called someone for a hack is when he killed 14 people with one clip of the SVD. All consecutively mind you.
It looked something like this
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo1
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo2
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo3
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo4
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo5
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo6
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo7
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo8
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo9
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo10
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo11
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo12
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo13
t3h_l33t_H@XX0r [SVD] Poor Mofo14
If someone kills me, I ban them. I know that everyone who kills me is hacking.
Hmm, Anyway, if any of u guys love to get called a hack and u r of a certain standard, u r almost guranteed to be called a hack or something blablabla in GAMEARENA SF Server....not sure for the rest of the servers. Most of the good aus players stay away from SF server anyway....
deadsquirrel does not hack lol...
believe me
i've actually been seeing more hackers today, just saw one in a pub bf2 server on FMJ... he wasn't that great though
believe me
i've actually been seeing more hackers today, just saw one in a pub bf2 server on FMJ... he wasn't that great though
This doesn't make sense. Whenever I get accused of hacking when I'm on a roll, I just ignore them completely.bullit wrote:
Call em out. No answer? Begin to think.
For the OP, if it's not my server, I either just ignore the hacker and play on, or if I think they are doing so well as to encroach on my gameplay, I just leave the server. No hacking accusations, no whining, I just walk away. 1 less person giving the potential hacker points and entertainment.
If it's my server, I would watch their behavior and kick them if I see not normal behavior. Things I've seen that I'd kick or ban for:
-commander hack, if you can see the person that's doing it
-faster than normal player movement
-respawning after being killed right by their body or right on top of you (an enemy), multiple times
-one shot kills with pistols (I only saw this happen once on a different server and I didn't stick around to investigate)
Most of the other suspect activity I don't find justifiable enough to kick or ban over, and I don't see the possible hacker as too much to overcome and kill.
After all, there will always be people better than you at this game.
qftOronisi wrote:
After all, there will always be people better than you at this game.
I don't get it. Will someone explain to me how an EDITED video of someone killing 1,2 or 3 guys at a time is evidence for or against hacking, or even evidence that they are a good player?! I'll give you a hint, I can play a whole round and go 10 k, 40d and edit it to be me killing 10 guys in a row. Woohoo. That video was a waste of my time. He's not hacking, the vid doesn't even prove he's a good player.teamorange wrote:
I'll break this up for you
this is being unlucky/you exaggerating it
there are less people who hack in this game than most people think, it just people smurfing/ being really good, just check this guy out
deadsquirrel
You are obviously retarded. I can snap to people and one shot kill them. I've done it before. If someone turns around and shoots you in the face, it's not always a hack. I've been called a macro user before, and I can tell you I can go prone and get up REAL fast. I have fast fingers for those kind of things. If you see someone obviously instant snapping BETWEEN targets, then yes it is a hack, but not if they just face you and headshot you. Also, It is possible to kill two people at once. I made a video during a scrim where I headshot two guys:Scardaddy wrote:
What I have learnt is when some one snaps to you and kills you with one shot is defiantly an aim bot. Another is the shooting through walls, easy to find. If some one kills three people in a row with out reloading that's pretty fishy. Check UAV for inside wall hacks. Oh and another one is macro use. If you see them going prone then getting up really quickly and they do it a lot then they are using macros. Same goes for that dolphin dive that you can not seem to hit. That's a macro too. The one thing that surprises me is that EA considers anyone that has gone 32 for 0 in a round a hack. According to them you can not go a whole round without dieing it is impossible. Go figure.
http://files.filefront.com/crazyshotswm … einfo.html
Last edited by [Cz8]Bullet (2007-06-11 06:52:04)
Wow, I just read the dead squirrel thing. That does not show hacks anywhere. His gun snaps to that wall after he shoots the AT guy because of a lag spike. Notice how his gun is pointing downwards toward the wall. Umm, He locked on to a guy Inside the wall? Leg aimbot anyone? Because if you follow his guns trajectory it won't go all the way to the other side of the wall. The dude has a good shot. I pull the same amount of shit he does when I get good FPS.
I've done way better shots than in deadsquirrel's video. Double headshots, headshots while they're running perpendicular to me. Turn around the corner headshots. BF2 is a random ass game.
I've done way better shots than in deadsquirrel's video. Double headshots, headshots while they're running perpendicular to me. Turn around the corner headshots. BF2 is a random ass game.
Last edited by [Cz8]Bullet (2007-06-11 07:08:02)
I banned: http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php?action=5&ban_id=24561
From my server, i didnt take a PB screenshot but he was standing and killing ppl from 60m with his MG36 and after he killed som1 at square he auto switched to a guy at hotel so I banned him for hacking, the only guy I've suspected enough to ban.
From my server, i didnt take a PB screenshot but he was standing and killing ppl from 60m with his MG36 and after he killed som1 at square he auto switched to a guy at hotel so I banned him for hacking, the only guy I've suspected enough to ban.
i never said that he hacked just that alot of good people thought that he hacks when from the video he looks legit[Cz8]Bullet wrote:
Wow, I just read the dead squirrel thing. That does not show hacks anywhere. His gun snaps to that wall after he shoots the AT guy because of a lag spike. Notice how his gun is pointing downwards toward the wall. Umm, He locked on to a guy Inside the wall? Leg aimbot anyone? Because if you follow his guns trajectory it won't go all the way to the other side of the wall. The dude has a good shot. I pull the same amount of shit he does when I get good FPS.
I've done way better shots than in deadsquirrel's video. Double headshots, headshots while they're running perpendicular to me. Turn around the corner headshots. BF2 is a random ass game.
He has hit reg hack, where most of the bullets that hit the person actually register. jk
The biggest problem i have with this game is that I can have times where my hit reg is just horrid. I can put 30 shots into someone at point blank range and not kill them. Or have my M16 burts never hit more than 1 out of the 3 shots in a burst. Then when I have good hitreg it's like I am playilng a different game when I shoot at things they die and it doesn't take 15 bullets to get a single kill.
The biggest problem i have with this game is that I can have times where my hit reg is just horrid. I can put 30 shots into someone at point blank range and not kill them. Or have my M16 burts never hit more than 1 out of the 3 shots in a burst. Then when I have good hitreg it's like I am playilng a different game when I shoot at things they die and it doesn't take 15 bullets to get a single kill.
you're all gay, who gives a fuck? Some people have skill, some do not, some are very obvious.
find another server ... its just a game
find another server ... its just a game
Well how i decide if someone is hacking is I glitch into a wall and see if they look at me when i'm in. Then if they start telling the admin to ban me for glitching when i haven't shot anyone you know they hack. Me and Surgeon did it the other day.
^^^ or maybe cause you're spotted on UAV
has anyone seen the nL video? At one point biggytim makes an incredeble shot on mashtuur when he's aiming at a wall and just turns and takes a guy out in one shot to the head. There are pretty obviously no hacks but just an incredible shot and some degree of luck. IMO you shouldn't make hackusations until you have a certain degree of skill. I'm nowhere near as good as some people, but i'm definitely good enough to at least know when to be suspicious and when to just know its skill...
Does Lucid really hack? I thought so, He was sniping us back at the gas station from the freakin square rooftop on karkand.... The funny thing tho, is you could tell it was all hacks and no skill. Cause when we get close I pwned his face with the m24.floodgate wrote:
if the player is called shadow_ownz or lucid
As for Shadow_ownz me and that guy have had some intense arguments. But, I think he is the most common hacker there is....
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