WTF is a $10 airplane ticket? Where I come from (America) plane tickets run between 350-500 smackers.
Its a new thing, you pay for ticket alone, no pillow, no blanket, no food.Elamdri wrote:
WTF is a $10 airplane ticket? Where I come from (America) plane tickets run between 350-500 smackers.
And the stewardesses are paid off of commission i think
Usmarine's airline is in America too.
usmarine2005 wrote:
So you can go to various cities on the west coast, east coast, and Florida for $20 dollars round trip
They hit you with a hell of a lot of fees from what I've heard. Ryanair I think it's called is really badstryyker wrote:
Its a new thing, you pay for ticket alone, no pillow, no blanket, no food.Elamdri wrote:
WTF is a $10 airplane ticket? Where I come from (America) plane tickets run between 350-500 smackers.
And the stewardesses are paid off of commission i think
What fees? Taxes? Same for everyone.CommieChipmunk wrote:
They hit you with a hell of a lot of fees from what I've heard. Ryanair I think it's called is really badstryyker wrote:
Its a new thing, you pay for ticket alone, no pillow, no blanket, no food.Elamdri wrote:
WTF is a $10 airplane ticket? Where I come from (America) plane tickets run between 350-500 smackers.
And the stewardesses are paid off of commission i think
Change your ticket? Most airlines charge for that.
Baggage? Spirit Airlines is doing that now...and others will follow. I bet JetBlue will charge for things pretty soon, since their lease payments for their planes are almost due.
$10 isn't bad at all. We have similar. But we need supersonic travel back (cmon, it's the freakin 21st century), so that we can get budget companies for those. Hopefully in at least 20 years time.
Man, i don't need no pillow or any of that fancy crap. A plane is a plane, for me the noise of the engine sends me off to sleep all the time.
Man, i don't need no pillow or any of that fancy crap. A plane is a plane, for me the noise of the engine sends me off to sleep all the time.
Not exactly a fair comparison. Typically, a cab trip is a half hour or an hour at most. That's the minimum for a flight.usmarine2005 wrote:
Do you get a free soda and peanuts when you hop in a cab?
Having said that this is one of those rare occasions when I agree with you, at least partly. I like the idea that there are budget airlines, who offer cheap trips (Virgin Blue and Jetstar just started recently in Australia), and consider it fair that they charge for extras (after all, their profit margins aren't exactly massive). I find it funny when people complain about the high prices: no-one is forcing them to buy anything, they can go an hour without a Coke. They can still have water (and IIRC both Virgin Blue and Jetstar will let you carry on packaged foods). Having said that, I also don't disagree with the premium airlines who do offer their passengers free refreshments: if you like to pay for your ticket and have stuff included, fly QANTAS (or similar). It should be noted that QANTAS also uses this to make up for smaller planes, giving more/better refreshments on little planes like Dash 8s (which makes them like heaven for me, as I like small planes anyway). Further, I believe that flights of more than 3 hours (or thereabouts) should get meals: there comes a point where food is a given. Also, water should always be available. I don't think international flights are what you're talking about though.
In summary: you get what you pay for. If you don't want refreshments, fly with a cheap airline. If you do, and don't want to pay, fly with a standard airline. If you tend to get flights on your father's frequent flyer points which he gets on company trips despite the fact that he doesn't pay for the trips, go with that one (QANTAS rocks!).
The funny thing is, Ryanair is one of the most profitable airlines in the world, yet have the worst on time performance in the world.CameronPoe wrote:
Here in Europe low fares airlines rule the roost and all that gets bitched about is their timekeeping. You get what you pay for.
Why is that?
If an airline is on time, that means they have planes sitting around doing nothing so they can swap things around and make as many flights as they can run on time. When people say "you get what you pay for," you are not paying for more skilled people, you are paying for planes to sit around and bleed money all day.
Man I wouldn't mind a $20 return flight, if they had them here it would be around ten quid, and I've got £80 in my wallet. The only problem is, its pretty pointless flying around the UK, sure its quick, but you're on a plane for like ten seconds.
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Nah, it's not ten seconds. Even scotland takes about an hour. Then there's the single worst thing ever to happen to aviation: check in
So, overall. It takes approximately 2 days to travel anywhere by plane. I can see why supersonic travel was pointless now.
So, overall. It takes approximately 2 days to travel anywhere by plane. I can see why supersonic travel was pointless now.
Yeah but what sucks worse is getting sued for publicly telling the truth. Slander, you can be telling the truth, 100%, have facts to back you up, but if it hurts a persons reputation they can sue the shit out of you.CameronPoe wrote:
Ryanair very similar. Negative advertising is prohibited here in Europe so that could never happen. It actually makes me sick when I see that kind of shit on TV in America - especially in political advertisements.
Last time I was in New York there was an advertisment: 'Governor Pataki - Possibly criminal'. Unbelievable.
EDIT: I guess that ties in with your post right?
And on the topic, well, Southwest is catering to stupid people there, if someone wants to pay 99$ or so for a round trip from NY to Orlando(I think thats United Airway's price right now, not sure) well, then they are a dumbass. If they think a Powerbar and a soda is equal to 79 or 89$ well..... Its their own loss.
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Would be funny if in the small print, all you bought WAS the ticket no plane, or pilot, or actual transport though that costs extrastryyker wrote:
Its a new thing, you pay for ticket alone, no pillow, no blanket, no food.Elamdri wrote:
WTF is a $10 airplane ticket? Where I come from (America) plane tickets run between 350-500 smackers.
And the stewardesses are paid off of commission i think
In all fairness if the flight is only say up to 5hours, I wouldnt say a buying a drink on board is that pricey, not unless your really thirsty
I'm with USM05 on this one.
People are fickle.
Carry on.
People are fickle.
Carry on.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Now I think I see why.chittydog wrote:
Southwest is saying these things because your prices are a serious threat to them.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19212145/
Could be true. Think about it this way. People are saying they have to pay for food, sodas, blankets, etc. Well, if you do not use a blanket, pillow, eat food, etc., you are paying for it whether you use it or not. I for one do not feel like paying for someones pillow and blanket.stryyker wrote:
The financially stressed airlines hate competition, so they cry and moan about change, me thinks.
That's interesting. Marine, does your company tie wage increases into the companies profitability? ie. Your share price jumps 3% and everyone gets a 3% wage increase? (I know Qantas do this...)Hurricane wrote:
Furthermore, they use lower flight attendant wages but in return the attendants get a share of any in-flight sales.
Mcminty.
You get a certain amount of stock options when you get hired, depending on your position. Once we go public, we will do profit sharing.mcminty wrote:
That's interesting. Marine, does your company tie wage increases into the companies profitability? ie. Your share price jumps 3% and everyone gets a 3% wage increase? (I know Qantas do this...)Hurricane wrote:
Furthermore, they use lower flight attendant wages but in return the attendants get a share of any in-flight sales.
Mcminty.
Are we talking like puddle jumping flights? Because it cost me $350 to fly from Chicago to Pensecola last year.
No. But it won't do you any good from Chicago for the time being.Elamdri wrote:
Are we talking like puddle jumping flights? Because it cost me $350 to fly from Chicago to Pensecola last year.
Southwest is a very good airline for the most part. But their adds on the radio here are becoming more and more frequnet against us. This could be why...Commie Killer wrote:
Yeah but what sucks worse is getting sued for publicly telling the truth. Slander, you can be telling the truth, 100%, have facts to back you up, but if it hurts a persons reputation they can sue the shit out of you.CameronPoe wrote:
Ryanair very similar. Negative advertising is prohibited here in Europe so that could never happen. It actually makes me sick when I see that kind of shit on TV in America - especially in political advertisements.
Last time I was in New York there was an advertisment: 'Governor Pataki - Possibly criminal'. Unbelievable.
EDIT: I guess that ties in with your post right?
And on the topic, well, Southwest is catering to stupid people there, if someone wants to pay 99$ or so for a round trip from NY to Orlando(I think thats United Airway's price right now, not sure) well, then they are a dumbass. If they think a Powerbar and a soda is equal to 79 or 89$ well..... Its their own loss.
"There have been stories in almost every major city in the U.S. and even some in Japan and Europe.
"We’ve gotten over 1,000 TV stories which include national programs such as CNN, Fox News, NBC Nightly News, ABC World News Now and CBS World News. The Skybus story also received considerable attention by news programs in major markets not currently served by Skybus. These include: New York City, Las Vegas, Chicago, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, and Denver."
Now I cannot really blame them for this, but if their biggest selling point is blankets and pillows, they are going to have to do better.