I think WAR COLLEGE RIBBON should be removed from this game. WHY? A ribbon with complete gayness. I was playing as usual and just before our team is about to loose, most of guys switch to other team. It was 26/14 !! I even didn't realise this before the around ended. It was 26/14 for a few rounds, until I left. Many servers (clan servers) changed auto-balance OFF and allow people to switch. I don't blame people anymore but I think the real GAY is EA/DICE where they suck donkey. How the fuck you will get 3:1 win/loose ? Obviously people will cheat/statepad or whatever. My suggestion is just FUCKING remove this GAY ribbon OR change it to 1.5:1 or 2:1. Another brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay sucking booster pack. Think again EA about the math.......3:1 win/loose ....... a donkey can suck better !!!
and you know this...how?MarkPuppets wrote:
a donkey can suck better !!!
Well since we know that 3:1 win/loose isn't achievable with non statpadding we know that everybody that had this medal is a cheat.
So why worry about it, since having the WC ribbon is not an honor, but a sign of weakness.
There is a reason the Dutch word for toilet is WC.
And we all know a toilet/WC is full of shit.
So do not worry about it and only play on servers that do not let you switch.
So why worry about it, since having the WC ribbon is not an honor, but a sign of weakness.
There is a reason the Dutch word for toilet is WC.
And we all know a toilet/WC is full of shit.
So do not worry about it and only play on servers that do not let you switch.
It is their game and their rules...either accept it and play the game, or shut the fuck up and play something else.MarkPuppets wrote:
I think WAR COLLEGE RIBBON should be removed from this game. WHY? A ribbon with complete gayness. I was playing as usual and just before our team is about to loose, most of guys switch to other team. It was 26/14 !! I even didn't realise this before the around ended. It was 26/14 for a few rounds, until I left. Many servers (clan servers) changed auto-balance OFF and allow people to switch. I don't blame people anymore but I think the real GAY is EA/DICE where they suck donkey. How the fuck you will get 3:1 win/loose ? Obviously people will cheat/statepad or whatever. My suggestion is just FUCKING remove this GAY ribbon OR change it to 1.5:1 or 2:1. Another brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay sucking booster pack. Think again EA about the math.......3:1 win/loose ....... a donkey can suck better !!!
are you on drugs i nearly have my WAR and the fact of the matter is i play well as a team, sign of weakness my ass, get your facts right before posting shite!ResDog1 wrote:
Well since we know that 3:1 win/loose isn't achievable with non statpadding we know that everybody that had this medal is a cheat.
So why worry about it, since having the WC ribbon is not an honor, but a sign of weakness.
There is a reason the Dutch word for toilet is WC.
And we all know a toilet/WC is full of shit.
So do not worry about it and only play on servers that do not let you switch.
I didn't statpad nor swap teams to get my WCR. I always played on 32 player servers with auto team balance on unlike wot a lot people don't do cos they're shite. And at one stage I came close to not getting it after being auto-switched to the losing team several times mid-way (or more) through quite a few rounds just cos the other team had lost a player when he disconnected.
I still play on servers with team balance cos servers that don't have it working are wank. Wot's the point in playing against a team that has you outnumbered? And choosing to go on the team with significantly more players than the other just smacks of lameness. That's why I don't bother with such servers cos it just ruins the game.
In fact EA shouldn't rank servers where auto team balance is switched off and should only allow people on 32 player servers or more to get the WCR cos those who get it on 16 player servers manipulate the game to their advantage with a bunch of decent players helping them to win rounds against teams of disorganised lone noobs and that in my opinion shows a distinct lack of skill and honour.
That will discourage people from the team swapping lameness and abuse of 16 player servers that plagues BF2 but then again it's EA's fault for not properly implementing adequate rules.
I still play on servers with team balance cos servers that don't have it working are wank. Wot's the point in playing against a team that has you outnumbered? And choosing to go on the team with significantly more players than the other just smacks of lameness. That's why I don't bother with such servers cos it just ruins the game.
In fact EA shouldn't rank servers where auto team balance is switched off and should only allow people on 32 player servers or more to get the WCR cos those who get it on 16 player servers manipulate the game to their advantage with a bunch of decent players helping them to win rounds against teams of disorganised lone noobs and that in my opinion shows a distinct lack of skill and honour.
That will discourage people from the team swapping lameness and abuse of 16 player servers that plagues BF2 but then again it's EA's fault for not properly implementing adequate rules.
Last edited by {HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy (2006-01-26 07:24:01)
M8, why don't you go and dunk you head in your WC. When I played to get my WCR I chose the team that wos likely to win. There wos never any certainty. Sometimes the team most likely to win screwed things up. Certain factors and a fair bit of luck were needed in the end. So get a life when you accuse people of having to statpad to get the WCR. I believe that the majority of people with a WCR did but I sure as hell ain't one of them.ResDog1 wrote:
Well since we know that 3:1 win/loose isn't achievable with non statpadding we know that everybody that had this medal is a cheat.
So why worry about it, since having the WC ribbon is not an honor, but a sign of weakness.
There is a reason the Dutch word for toilet is WC.
And we all know a toilet/WC is full of shit.
So do not worry about it and only play on servers that do not let you switch.
someone could of got the WCR with a new account, not that hard to get the requirements an then 3:1 ratio if u start from a new account, you dont have to cheat that way because you have less amount of rounds to need for 3:1 ratio
The WCR win ration is only for commander wins, I believe so the average joe switching sides to get a win is not going to effect the WCR for that person. Its is a 3 to 1 ration for commander wins not idividual wins.
Last edited by Pizall (2006-01-26 10:11:53)
should the expert explosives be removed because u cant get it?MarkPuppets wrote:
I think WAR COLLEGE RIBBON should be removed from this game. WHY? A ribbon with complete gayness. I was playing as usual and just before our team is about to loose, most of guys switch to other team. It was 26/14 !! I even didn't realise this before the around ended. It was 26/14 for a few rounds, until I left. Many servers (clan servers) changed auto-balance OFF and allow people to switch. I don't blame people anymore but I think the real GAY is EA/DICE where they suck donkey. How the fuck you will get 3:1 win/loose ? Obviously people will cheat/statepad or whatever. My suggestion is just FUCKING remove this GAY ribbon OR change it to 1.5:1 or 2:1. Another brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay sucking booster pack. Think again EA about the math.......3:1 win/loose ....... a donkey can suck better !!!
They don't need to remove the WCR, they just need to make two things happen.
1. Tweak the AB. Being shifted at the very end of round when you were on the winning team is BS. Tweaking who gets moved, and when, so it is more equitable would take care of the AB problem. Maybe something to the effect that AB would no longer move a player once the ticket count reaches a certain point.
2. Only allow team switching within the first 2-3 minutes after a round starts. After that the only way to switch teams is if AB does it. If AB isn't on, then that round goes down with the teams as is. They could even require AB to be on for a server to have ranked status.
1. Tweak the AB. Being shifted at the very end of round when you were on the winning team is BS. Tweaking who gets moved, and when, so it is more equitable would take care of the AB problem. Maybe something to the effect that AB would no longer move a player once the ticket count reaches a certain point.
2. Only allow team switching within the first 2-3 minutes after a round starts. After that the only way to switch teams is if AB does it. If AB isn't on, then that round goes down with the teams as is. They could even require AB to be on for a server to have ranked status.
Last edited by Agent_Dung_Bomb (2006-01-26 10:59:09)
Agreed.. Maybe help encourage some more 'honest' playing...Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
2. Only allow team switching within the first 2-3 minutes after a round starts. After that the only way to switch teams is if AB does it. If AB isn't on, then that round goes down with the teams as is. They could even require AB to be on for a server to have ranked status.
I believe this is one of the dumbest topics I've ever read. Well, it's been presented in the most inane way possible.MarkPuppets wrote:
I think WAR COLLEGE RIBBON should be removed from this game. WHY? A ribbon with complete gayness. I was playing as usual and just before our team is about to loose, most of guys switch to other team. It was 26/14 !! I even didn't realise this before the around ended. It was 26/14 for a few rounds, until I left. Many servers (clan servers) changed auto-balance OFF and allow people to switch. I don't blame people anymore but I think the real GAY is EA/DICE where they suck donkey. How the fuck you will get 3:1 win/loose ? Obviously people will cheat/statepad or whatever. My suggestion is just FUCKING remove this GAY ribbon OR change it to 1.5:1 or 2:1. Another brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay sucking booster pack. Think again EA about the math.......3:1 win/loose ....... a donkey can suck better !!!
Firstly, don't play on servers where autobalance is off. I play on many servers and have only found ONE server where AB is disabled - and still, for an entire team to go 26 on 14 and stay that way for a few rounds, if you're gonna stay on the losing team you're a sucker. I'm glad there's a ribbon that actually takes work beyond having an extreme amount of hours on a kit or class.
Another "brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay booster pack"? How in the HELL does the war college ribbon have ANYTHING TO DO with the booster pack? If you buy the booster pack, EA gives you the ribbon? Please.
You can't "stat pad" wins. You can team switch, and everyone who has the war college ribbon has teamswitched, but what the hell does it matter. EA put it in the game with good intentions, just like every other badge. Every badge has a way to pad - you need 18 knife kills IAR for expert knife, so knife revive - isn't this just as bad, or even worse than team switching? I've worked on this ribbon for almost 2 months now, and I'm almost there.
I've said this over and over and it bears repeating. If you're not willing to put in the work for the ribbon, then stop your bitching. Everyone who bitches about this ribbon are people who aren't willing to work towards it.
dead on with that one. i might actually quote you it was that good.Cpl_5811 wrote:
It is their game and their rules...either accept it and play the game, or shut the fuck up and play something else.MarkPuppets wrote:
I think WAR COLLEGE RIBBON should be removed from this game. WHY? A ribbon with complete gayness. I was playing as usual and just before our team is about to loose, most of guys switch to other team. It was 26/14 !! I even didn't realise this before the around ended. It was 26/14 for a few rounds, until I left. Many servers (clan servers) changed auto-balance OFF and allow people to switch. I don't blame people anymore but I think the real GAY is EA/DICE where they suck donkey. How the fuck you will get 3:1 win/loose ? Obviously people will cheat/statepad or whatever. My suggestion is just FUCKING remove this GAY ribbon OR change it to 1.5:1 or 2:1. Another brainless game-company EA trying to suck more money by their upcoming gay sucking booster pack. Think again EA about the math.......3:1 win/loose ....... a donkey can suck better !!!
I love hearing people bash Electronic Arts only to couch up their cash for their latest games, sure EA might be somewhat similar to the Microsoft of the gaming world, But they make/distribute quality games (usually). and you complain yet you have nearly 800 hours?
I'm just a n00b who doesn't team switch but I think they should change it to 2:1 w/l ratio. Maybe I'm just a n00b , but I'm a n00b with a 2:1 w/l ratio. I'm workin my ass off getting my commander hours up and trying to win just about every round. At least it gives you something to work at if you are an honest n00b.
I think that the win/lose ratio requirement should be removed (right now it encourages defection, treason, and picking on the underdog team). When I join a server I join the team with the least players. If the teams are even (or within 1 player of even) I will join the losing team (makes for a more interesting round). After joining a team I will stick with that team untill I leave the server (unless all of my friends on skype are on the opposite team in which case I'll ally with my friends). Anyone who chooses their team with the intent to even the playing field will most likely never earn this ribbon because of all of the "winning is everything and i'll bunnyhop if I have too" players out there.
While the WC ribbon isn't necesarily a mark of shame...it does lead to questions about the ribbon holder's team loyalties.
I say remove the ratio and replace it with a count of wins (25-50 wins) as commander or something.
While the WC ribbon isn't necesarily a mark of shame...it does lead to questions about the ribbon holder's team loyalties.
I say remove the ratio and replace it with a count of wins (25-50 wins) as commander or something.
your a fucking dick head......ResDog1 wrote:
Well since we know that 3:1 win/loose isn't achievable with non statpadding we know that everybody that had this medal is a cheat.
first, its entirely possible to get. i just got mine recently. if you play 16 person servers on 16 person maps, winning is very easy so long as you have two or three decent to good players on your team with you.
i completely changed the way i play the game while i was going for this ribbon too. if i saw someone trying to sneak behind and flank us to take a flag, i went to defend the flag and kill him instead of letting someone else worry about it. did my SPM take a hit? yeah, of course it did. but slowly i worked my way up to 3:1 win:loss ratio. i wasnt coming anywhere close to leading the server in points at the end of the round, but about 90% of the time i made sure my team won.
it can definitely be done without team switching or padding. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
i completely changed the way i play the game while i was going for this ribbon too. if i saw someone trying to sneak behind and flank us to take a flag, i went to defend the flag and kill him instead of letting someone else worry about it. did my SPM take a hit? yeah, of course it did. but slowly i worked my way up to 3:1 win:loss ratio. i wasnt coming anywhere close to leading the server in points at the end of the round, but about 90% of the time i made sure my team won.
it can definitely be done without team switching or padding. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
The thing is, it's mathematically impossible for every BF2 player to get this ribbon. Everyone can't have a 3:1 win/loss ratio.
It can be earned without teamswitching or padding...but the majority of players who earn it do so by padding/defecting and brag about how awesome 1337 they think they are.
congrats on getting it without padding/defecting
congrats on getting it without padding/defecting
I have been working on my WCR for the last 3 months, and the whole of last week I racked up 11 losses! To get back on track... I need 33 wins. I try to keep my game honest and I only play on servers with AB on to minimize defections at the slightest hint of touble. I have been in many games where we've won by less than 10 tickets. If these same games were played without AB, I am sure many of us wouldn't have stayed as clamed as we did or played as hard as we did to win.
WCR does require a lot of patience. Pursuing it changes your game experience. Before i sign up and start playing, I look for some key things. At least for me this would be:
1) At the point of joining, how much of a point difference is the team you are selected for, ahead or behind the other team? For instance i love playing on Wake, but if i was put on the Chinese side with a 50 point lead holding only North Village but with a score board of (Chn)100-50(US), I will still not join the game. The disadvantage becomes greater if the bridge out of North Village is blown and you are playing in a full 64 man map where the enemy's arty strike can sustain many kills. However, if I was on Sharqi as MEC with a 40 point deficit but our team is holding the TV Station, their commander assets all blown up, and our heli is in the air... I'll take on those odds even if there is only 100 points left on the score board.
2) A Commander not running around and joining in the fight gives me a little more assurance to join his/her team. I'm sure there are commanders that can do their jobs well eventhough they are right at the front lines shooting back, but I don't think there are too many of them out there who can do this.
3) Team make up. I've seen people saying that players with very high ranks are no better than players with intermediate ranks. Sure high ranking players don't necessarily guarantee high kill scores or can display great killing skills, but it does give me a little more assurance that the team i am in has the advantage of experience players. Experience players know the maps well as opposed to players who have just started playing BF2. Nothing pisses me off more than having to ride with a private in the driver's seat navigating around Dragon Valley. I would take on the odds of joining a team with experience players versus a team with a slight numerical advantage.
I am sure that those who are after the WCR may have more or maybe even less criteria as what I have listed, but the WCR can be earned honestly... just that it requires some basic common sense and a lot of work.
WCR does require a lot of patience. Pursuing it changes your game experience. Before i sign up and start playing, I look for some key things. At least for me this would be:
1) At the point of joining, how much of a point difference is the team you are selected for, ahead or behind the other team? For instance i love playing on Wake, but if i was put on the Chinese side with a 50 point lead holding only North Village but with a score board of (Chn)100-50(US), I will still not join the game. The disadvantage becomes greater if the bridge out of North Village is blown and you are playing in a full 64 man map where the enemy's arty strike can sustain many kills. However, if I was on Sharqi as MEC with a 40 point deficit but our team is holding the TV Station, their commander assets all blown up, and our heli is in the air... I'll take on those odds even if there is only 100 points left on the score board.
2) A Commander not running around and joining in the fight gives me a little more assurance to join his/her team. I'm sure there are commanders that can do their jobs well eventhough they are right at the front lines shooting back, but I don't think there are too many of them out there who can do this.
3) Team make up. I've seen people saying that players with very high ranks are no better than players with intermediate ranks. Sure high ranking players don't necessarily guarantee high kill scores or can display great killing skills, but it does give me a little more assurance that the team i am in has the advantage of experience players. Experience players know the maps well as opposed to players who have just started playing BF2. Nothing pisses me off more than having to ride with a private in the driver's seat navigating around Dragon Valley. I would take on the odds of joining a team with experience players versus a team with a slight numerical advantage.
I am sure that those who are after the WCR may have more or maybe even less criteria as what I have listed, but the WCR can be earned honestly... just that it requires some basic common sense and a lot of work.
I look at the teams before I even join the server. When I click on the server it shows you the players, and if one teams players are way ahead of the others in points, then I try to join that team. I try not to jump ship to another team during a game (I think I've maybe done this <10 times - I always play in AB servers and end up getting stuck with a loss), but hell, there's a thing between team loyalty and being stuck on a team full of people who couldn't shoot water if they were standing in a boat.
For instance - I got stuck with a loss yesterday because I was playing in a server (16 slot EA official, mind you) with 2 people I didn't know from the same clan on different teams. I was commanding on Songhua Stalemate, guarding the one flag we had left - I didn't think this would matter because our team had a 20 ticket lead and USMC was about to be bled to death. Until the little snot clan guy on my team decided to TK me (I had c4 around the flag we were defending) before I could blow up the APC taking the flag with his clanmate in it. This wasn't a mistake - I was off in the woods and he came out and knifed me. The kid then proceeded to TK 2 more people, and commit suicide, leading us to be capped out.
No matter how hard you try you sometimes get stuck with teams that are just terrible, teams that have plenty of intentional TKers on them, etc. Fact of the matter is, I'll be damned if I left some self absorbed lance corporals have me have to make 5 more wins to make up for that one loss (you need as many wins as your losses divided by 10 to make .01 improvement on your win loss - for instance, i have 488 losses right now, so i need to win 4.88 rounds (approx 5) to have my win loss go up .01).
For instance - I got stuck with a loss yesterday because I was playing in a server (16 slot EA official, mind you) with 2 people I didn't know from the same clan on different teams. I was commanding on Songhua Stalemate, guarding the one flag we had left - I didn't think this would matter because our team had a 20 ticket lead and USMC was about to be bled to death. Until the little snot clan guy on my team decided to TK me (I had c4 around the flag we were defending) before I could blow up the APC taking the flag with his clanmate in it. This wasn't a mistake - I was off in the woods and he came out and knifed me. The kid then proceeded to TK 2 more people, and commit suicide, leading us to be capped out.
No matter how hard you try you sometimes get stuck with teams that are just terrible, teams that have plenty of intentional TKers on them, etc. Fact of the matter is, I'll be damned if I left some self absorbed lance corporals have me have to make 5 more wins to make up for that one loss (you need as many wins as your losses divided by 10 to make .01 improvement on your win loss - for instance, i have 488 losses right now, so i need to win 4.88 rounds (approx 5) to have my win loss go up .01).
My SPM is crap ever since i went after this ribbon (not that it was ever great anyways), and I put in a lot of emphasis to hold or take key flags. That is my mission for every game i play. I don't venture far from these flags in case they are retaken. I am either an anti tanker with the upgraded shotgun, an engineer or spec ops because these classes seem to suit defending or taking key flags.ThomasMorgan wrote:
i completely changed the way i play the game while i was going for this ribbon too. if i saw someone trying to sneak behind and flank us to take a flag, i went to defend the flag and kill him instead of letting someone else worry about it. did my SPM take a hit? yeah, of course it did. but slowly i worked my way up to 3:1 win:loss ratio. i wasnt coming anywhere close to leading the server in points at the end of the round, but about 90% of the time i made sure my team won.
Because i am so focused on getting this ribbon, i just can't afford to try and earn other badges like the basic knife badge (LOL) or expert combat class badges. This is because when you stay close to protect key flags, by default, you won't be exposed to very many killing opportunities.
For me, these are some of the things that the WCR has done to change my game play and what others should also expect to see in their game when they are after the WCR.
This ribbon is no concern for me , I'll either get it or not.... but I refuse to team hop constantly just to keep the ratio up. In my opinion it should be time based instead of ratio but whatever...