mmmmm well thanks for stating the obvious.
I think they fixed something with the attack chopper by subtracting missles I believe; I don't fly choppers, but been a gunner and devastated the enemy, you know if you got hit with an AT or Vod to fly back for repairs then go back at it if you can make it (Sharqi only); but certain maps I think it's fine because the opposition has planes to take them out. Planes and Tanks should work together to take out the enemies attack chopper, otherwise you'll think twice about getting into one. Basically you are stating Tanks vs Infantry is unfair; you're in one going against infantry, there is no difference between choppers vs tanks so it's no problem.
Helos vs. tanks aren't totally helpless - get underneath something, or in a crowded area, etc. If you can't do this, try to get into an area where the helo needs to come lower by a bit to shoot at you, then hit it with a burst from your main gun. If all else fails, hop in the gunner seat and take the helicopter out with the .50 cal. I've taken plenty of attack choppers out with DPVs by doing this, and it works in tanks too.
im flying helis pretty good and i cant remember how often i was mowing down by a vodnik or 50 cl tank turret!
also Antitanksolds are absolut dangerours (if they know how to handle their rocktes...)
its hard enough for us pilots to fly through 24353124521345 stingers and mgs and AT's!
sure when a group of pplz always spawn as medics again and again its quite easy to kill em all!
and only a n00btankdriver is easy to hit :>
also Antitanksolds are absolut dangerours (if they know how to handle their rocktes...)
its hard enough for us pilots to fly through 24353124521345 stingers and mgs and AT's!
sure when a group of pplz always spawn as medics again and again its quite easy to kill em all!
and only a n00btankdriver is easy to hit :>
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In real its even worseZaius1000 wrote:
The attack helicopters are completely unfair when you in ground armor. Their missiles blow you up good. Its just really unfair with say, a tank vs an attack helicopter. Because you have no chance.
thats the point.
well we're at it, i think tanks are completely unfair when you're on foot. their main cannon and machine guns tear you up good. its just really unfair with say, a medic vs a tank. because you have no chance.
well we're at it, i think tanks are completely unfair when you're on foot. their main cannon and machine guns tear you up good. its just really unfair with say, a medic vs a tank. because you have no chance.
tank beats infantry, chopper beats tank, plane beats chopper,
infantry beats plane??? yeah good luck ~
infantry beats plane??? yeah good luck ~
Plane beats Plane
IF your team has good air to air pilots.
IF your team has good air to air pilots.
Well obviously planes and tanks cant work together to take out the attack helicopters, planes also have other planes to worry about and tanks have other tank/apc's/infantry to worry aboutimdead wrote:
I think they fixed something with the attack chopper by subtracting missles I believe; I don't fly choppers, but been a gunner and devastated the enemy, you know if you got hit with an AT or Vod to fly back for repairs then go back at it if you can make it (Sharqi only); but certain maps I think it's fine because the opposition has planes to take them out. Planes and Tanks should work together to take out the enemies attack chopper, otherwise you'll think twice about getting into one. Basically you are stating Tanks vs Infantry is unfair; you're in one going against infantry, there is no difference between choppers vs tanks so it's no problem.
Thats the whole point of someone hopping in a tank, if they wanted everyone to be the same there wouldnt be vehicles, or theyd just make the game a bunch of tanks for people to drive around in, making the .50 cals usless, then u wouldnt have to worry about them tearing you upThomasMorgan wrote:
thats the point.
well we're at it, i think tanks are completely unfair when you're on foot. their main cannon and machine guns tear you up good. its just really unfair with say, a medic vs a tank. because you have no chance.
Well of course they have other stuff to worry about, that the fun in the game, but when Squaded up you have one in the plane and other in the tank just communicate, but I see the element of surprise of the chopper (but usually you only have ONE attack chopper to worry about)-- hey you win some, you lose some.
Well let's see
You get in a tank and you're mad because there's something that can easily kill you
do you know what that's called?
that's called BALANCE and it's all of our friend!
Yes, I know it's very hard for some of you to wrap your minds around.
So let me say it as simply and clearly as I can:
Every class and vehicle is very strong in one area and very weak in one area. Against ground targets tanks own. And, rightfully so, against air targets tanks suck. And you know what? They shouldn't be able to easily shoot down choppers. I shoot down attack choppers in my tank if they hover low enough - but if they're an average pilot or using TV missles I am screwed..
And you know what else? I never get in a vehicle or choose a class and say "I'm never gonna die!" just expect that the weakness of your class or vehicle is going to be exploited by the strength of another. That's how the game works!
You get in a tank and you're mad because there's something that can easily kill you
do you know what that's called?
that's called BALANCE and it's all of our friend!
Yes, I know it's very hard for some of you to wrap your minds around.
So let me say it as simply and clearly as I can:
Every class and vehicle is very strong in one area and very weak in one area. Against ground targets tanks own. And, rightfully so, against air targets tanks suck. And you know what? They shouldn't be able to easily shoot down choppers. I shoot down attack choppers in my tank if they hover low enough - but if they're an average pilot or using TV missles I am screwed..
And you know what else? I never get in a vehicle or choose a class and say "I'm never gonna die!" just expect that the weakness of your class or vehicle is going to be exploited by the strength of another. That's how the game works!
I'm pretty sure in real life, a tank is no match for a chopper. And do you think that the tank drivers in armies world complain about it? No. I doubt that a guy in a tank would call up the enemy and ask him to stop using choppers. Yea.Zaius1000 wrote:
The attack helicopters are completely unfair when you in ground armor. Their missiles blow you up good. Its just really unfair with say, a tank vs an attack helicopter. Because you have no chance.
Choppers are easy to take down if you have the right tools. Get a teammate and both of you grab a 50 cal, and that chopper will be scrap metal in 5 seconds flat.
Planes are the real uber weapon in this game. Just look at the ratio for the top helicopter and plane pilots:
Helicopters: Mastakillachilla2 kills 53,318 Deaths 10,910 Ratio 4.89
[EO]big: K 49,524 D 12,265 R 4.04
(ARK)DJJeffro: K 44,052 D 5,032 R 8.75
Planes: {3meb}COL.KAM[V]: K70,215 D 5,625 R 12.48
SGT.Keroro[keron]: K49,645 D1,192 R 41.65 (I've seen this guy play. He gives new meaning to the word spawncamp.)
<WKL>anubis: K48,934 D4,610 R10.61
I take it my point is made? Truly skilled plane pilots are unstoppable short of a lucky shot, while helicopters are vulnerable to every vehicle, especially planes, as well as anti tank infantry.
Planes are the real uber weapon in this game. Just look at the ratio for the top helicopter and plane pilots:
Helicopters: Mastakillachilla2 kills 53,318 Deaths 10,910 Ratio 4.89
[EO]big: K 49,524 D 12,265 R 4.04
(ARK)DJJeffro: K 44,052 D 5,032 R 8.75
Planes: {3meb}COL.KAM[V]: K70,215 D 5,625 R 12.48
SGT.Keroro[keron]: K49,645 D1,192 R 41.65 (I've seen this guy play. He gives new meaning to the word spawncamp.)
<WKL>anubis: K48,934 D4,610 R10.61
I take it my point is made? Truly skilled plane pilots are unstoppable short of a lucky shot, while helicopters are vulnerable to every vehicle, especially planes, as well as anti tank infantry.
You're right thats total horseshit. NO WAI should a tank get owned by an ATTACK helicopter, that's GARBAGE. I want FLYING TANKS, RIGHT NOW!!!1one
( to original post) If you actually beleive an attack helo can't own a tank, then you need to watch or read some Desert Storm footage about the apaches and the longbow more recently.
Um, attack choppers have missiles the pilot can fire.Zaius1000 wrote:
Helos are practically defenseless, since the pilot cant use any weapons.
The Apache is the Longbowusmarine2005 wrote:
( to original post) If you actually beleive an attack helo can't own a tank, then you need to watch or read some Desert Storm footage about the apaches and the longbow more recently.
Back on topic.
The attack helicopter does whats its designed to do. Kill stuff.
The job of infantry is to take and hold ground, not to kill all.
Armour. Ground Support in areas inaccesible to Helis
Jets. Atack enemy air assets and provide rapid collateral damage
No shit
But the longbow is much, much different than the orignal apache.
Thats why they have jets to balance it out. Tanks own vehicles and infantry, helos own tanks, vehicles own helos, and jets own helos. so stfu and quit your bitching, its balanced.
who cares if its fair? the apache was designed to destroy 16-20 tanks on one flight! you are all morons for discussing this. it dosent matter. the attack helicopter is supposed to be a super weapon. morons... fairness is dumb
the longbow is not "much, much" more different than an apache... moron... god where the hell do people get their dumbass ideas about stuff? turn off your damn video games and history channel and crack a book for once. all this stuff is available at: globalsecurity.org moron!