England isn't really a monarchy. The Queen, King, etc. don't really do anything but sit there and act as diplomats. The parliament makes all the decisions, and the people elect people to parliament.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
Right... but that doesn't change the fact that parliament /and or the Queen are the same thing.~[_-=*Hanma*=-_]~ wrote:
The queen is nothing but a figure. Parliament makes the decisions.
I'm just playing with you lol, I saw the chance.
You have to look them as a single entity/object. ok
Now, since the U.S of America is a S O V R E I G N nation, understand, why are our current elected leaders/administration,
blatently, right under our noses folks, showing such respect and BOWING to the wueen of a country that once tried to overtake
what America was trying to become?
Commie Killer, your missing the point.
What country are you a citizen of?
Do you understand the meaning of what took place,
and the relationship between those two separate/sovreign nations?
Americans should not be welcoming the ol' Queen/King or any parliament/government dumbass from England to our
country to shoot the shit. What do you think they talked about at that meeting anyways? I bet it wasn't about the weather
or how her flight was.
Don't you know Prince Charles is the antichrist? Fuck, don't waste my time if all your
gonna say is some bullshit.
They're rubbing it in our faces and slowpokes like you
don't catch on to things like that.
The best way to affect and change us is to do it slowly and smoothly... like they have been.
And it's all being done right there in front of us, and for Christs sake even mostly recorded on media nowadays.
They have balls people!
And whos gonna stop em anyway?
I like your quotes, but I highly doubt you thought of them all by yourself.
I know how to copy and paste also mr. wizard.
Why don't you do some research and bring some of your own opinions to the table?
I'm also under oath still to this day to protect and uphold the U.S. CONSTITUTION,
against all enemies, Foreign & Domestic.
If I get into fighten', man. im serious.
someone crosses me... straight off I'll nut em in tha face
and bring my heal down on their foot, and break the bone.
I'm a fighter and a winner. i'm a bad man.
What country are you a citizen of?
Do you understand the meaning of what took place,
and the relationship between those two separate/sovreign nations?
Americans should not be welcoming the ol' Queen/King or any parliament/government dumbass from England to our
country to shoot the shit. What do you think they talked about at that meeting anyways? I bet it wasn't about the weather
or how her flight was.
Don't you know Prince Charles is the antichrist? Fuck, don't waste my time if all your
gonna say is some bullshit.
They're rubbing it in our faces and slowpokes like you
don't catch on to things like that.
The best way to affect and change us is to do it slowly and smoothly... like they have been.
And it's all being done right there in front of us, and for Christs sake even mostly recorded on media nowadays.
They have balls people!
And whos gonna stop em anyway?
I like your quotes, but I highly doubt you thought of them all by yourself.
I know how to copy and paste also mr. wizard.
Why don't you do some research and bring some of your own opinions to the table?
I'm also under oath still to this day to protect and uphold the U.S. CONSTITUTION,
against all enemies, Foreign & Domestic.
If I get into fighten', man. im serious.
someone crosses me... straight off I'll nut em in tha face
and bring my heal down on their foot, and break the bone.
I'm a fighter and a winner. i'm a bad man.
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hmmm after i read this entire thread I find some of the postings quite amusing but i agree with most of Turquoises posts.
from an european point of view noone would refer the iraq-war with 9/11 cause ther isnt a connection at all.
money and oil - yeah would be a point because of bush's sponsors. another one is that he also got a lot of money for his campaign from the weapon producers in US and if there is no war no one will ne new toys to play with...
but i also agree that there is a certain similarity between wwII and afghanistan because both times the us needed a purpose to start a war. in wwII there werent so much ships in pearl harbor then there should have been... what means they were ordered out a short time before. same goes for 9/11 - 3000 victims on a time when there are normally 10000 min. in the building? there something wrong dont u think? But dont get it wrong I fell sorry for them and their families but it seems from a farer view as if they were crucified just to get a reason for war.
Another point about the US politics is that i think that ur president is much too powerfull - In Europe no president has the right to start a war simply cause he wants to. Also the US democraty itself isnt quite the same it is here in europe.
On the other side I'm very thankfull for the entry of the US in WWII - otherwise i would have to say hail hilter alls the day (Austrian not German!)
The wars with iraq and afghanistan both werent lucky for u but it wasnt really a surprise the only war after WWII the US "REALLY" and "FULLY" won was the cold war. So what do we learn - good weapons only is nothing more than a BS..... U even shot missiles into wrong countires and helis crashed into each other ... the list of strange wars is quite long. vietnam cuba korea and in afghanistan and iraq it will be exactly the same so the US would have done best by never leaving there borders since WWII ended
one more thing to Iraq what do you think would have happened if u wouldnt have interferred into the war between iraq and iran? i gues they would have wiped out each other... But the first problem of the middle east countires is that most of them are childrens of the us or russia - born in the cold war and now both should take there responsability for them but russia gives a damn thing about them cause they know if they mess with them they will nuke them into 24th century...same goes for china and i would suggest also for france.
And about the 10000 nazis in germany at wwII i want to say that the problem was that ther was only one party in the parliament and that was the nsdap and everyone has to join that party - the kids also had to go to HJ wich was a kind of brainwash facility cause they told u there what the Führer does for ur future. About the jewish people very less information was spread out to the rest of the people. only few people knew whats happening to them and they couldn do much against cause everyone was watched over most of the time - by police or by fanatic citizens that were completely controlled by the nazi propaganda machinery.
the propaganda today in the US is kind uf different from those then but it works simmilar. it produces fear (of not having a job, of terrorism,...) but i dont understand why the US are all so scared. To get it straight - if u die u die - there is nothing u can do against that... and if u live a life in fear - what worth is this life?
And no country on this world can stop terrorism by bombing other countires cause such actions are birth for new and even more powerfull terrorism.
@ Chuck Biscuits ur an idiot nothing more nothing less
the queen in england is the as ur congress - she has nothing to say at all ask tony blair if u want something from england and the bowing is something u surely dont have - its a sign of manner but u also never had kings or queens in ur country so how should u know.....
and by the way is catholicism a monotheism if u have to believe in the devil to believe in god? Think about it and stfu with jesus (thats just another point europeans think of as typically for an US citiizen - this fanatic believing in god )
greetz
from an european point of view noone would refer the iraq-war with 9/11 cause ther isnt a connection at all.
money and oil - yeah would be a point because of bush's sponsors. another one is that he also got a lot of money for his campaign from the weapon producers in US and if there is no war no one will ne new toys to play with...
but i also agree that there is a certain similarity between wwII and afghanistan because both times the us needed a purpose to start a war. in wwII there werent so much ships in pearl harbor then there should have been... what means they were ordered out a short time before. same goes for 9/11 - 3000 victims on a time when there are normally 10000 min. in the building? there something wrong dont u think? But dont get it wrong I fell sorry for them and their families but it seems from a farer view as if they were crucified just to get a reason for war.
Another point about the US politics is that i think that ur president is much too powerfull - In Europe no president has the right to start a war simply cause he wants to. Also the US democraty itself isnt quite the same it is here in europe.
On the other side I'm very thankfull for the entry of the US in WWII - otherwise i would have to say hail hilter alls the day (Austrian not German!)
The wars with iraq and afghanistan both werent lucky for u but it wasnt really a surprise the only war after WWII the US "REALLY" and "FULLY" won was the cold war. So what do we learn - good weapons only is nothing more than a BS..... U even shot missiles into wrong countires and helis crashed into each other ... the list of strange wars is quite long. vietnam cuba korea and in afghanistan and iraq it will be exactly the same so the US would have done best by never leaving there borders since WWII ended
one more thing to Iraq what do you think would have happened if u wouldnt have interferred into the war between iraq and iran? i gues they would have wiped out each other... But the first problem of the middle east countires is that most of them are childrens of the us or russia - born in the cold war and now both should take there responsability for them but russia gives a damn thing about them cause they know if they mess with them they will nuke them into 24th century...same goes for china and i would suggest also for france.
And about the 10000 nazis in germany at wwII i want to say that the problem was that ther was only one party in the parliament and that was the nsdap and everyone has to join that party - the kids also had to go to HJ wich was a kind of brainwash facility cause they told u there what the Führer does for ur future. About the jewish people very less information was spread out to the rest of the people. only few people knew whats happening to them and they couldn do much against cause everyone was watched over most of the time - by police or by fanatic citizens that were completely controlled by the nazi propaganda machinery.
the propaganda today in the US is kind uf different from those then but it works simmilar. it produces fear (of not having a job, of terrorism,...) but i dont understand why the US are all so scared. To get it straight - if u die u die - there is nothing u can do against that... and if u live a life in fear - what worth is this life?
And no country on this world can stop terrorism by bombing other countires cause such actions are birth for new and even more powerfull terrorism.
@ Chuck Biscuits ur an idiot nothing more nothing less
the queen in england is the as ur congress - she has nothing to say at all ask tony blair if u want something from england and the bowing is something u surely dont have - its a sign of manner but u also never had kings or queens in ur country so how should u know.....
and by the way is catholicism a monotheism if u have to believe in the devil to believe in god? Think about it and stfu with jesus (thats just another point europeans think of as typically for an US citiizen - this fanatic believing in god )
greetz
You got banned, you come back and you do exactly the same thing as what got you banned.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
Fuck you very much. I'd like to say that you should probably shut your mouth since you have no idea what living in a free country is really like, and to have some bitch from some shithole country (england) come to my freakin country and watch my president kiss her ass? fuck you dude. In my country, I can say whatever the fuck I want, and to back it up I can carry a fuckin weapon , to kill spiteful people like you. I bet you think your noble too huh?
Hmmm....
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
DrunkFace wrote:
$
Dude....lay off the coffee or whatever got you hyped up. Outlandish conspiracy theories and now this? Get some sleep or something, relax and try to be civil. Spouting off on a topic on a gaming forum where maybe a few hundred people MIGHT see is not something to get all stressed out about. Take it easy!!!Chuck Biscuits wrote:
Fuck you very much. I'd like to say that you should probably shut your mouth since you have no idea what living in a free country is really like, and to have some bitch from some shithole country (england) come to my freakin country and watch my president kiss her ass? fuck you dude. In my country, I can say whatever the fuck I want, and to back it up I can carry a fuckin weapon , to kill spiteful people like you. I bet you think your noble too huh?
Your post is considered inappropriate, please refrain from posting this sort of material. {quote}
Maybe in your country you can, but on this site you can't.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
In my country, I can say whatever the fuck I want
Dude....lay off the coffee or whatever got you hyped up. Outlandish conspiracy theories and now this? Get some sleep or something, relax and try to be civil. Spouting off on a topic on a gaming forum where maybe a few hundred people MIGHT see is not something to get all stressed out about. Take it easy!!! By the way...cock breath is two words.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
Fuck you very much. I'd like to say that you should probably shut your mouth,
since you have no idea what living in a free country is really like,
and to have some bitch from some shithole country (england) come to my freakin
country and watch my president kiss her ass? fuck you dude.
In my country, I can say whatever the fuck I want, and to back it up I can carry a fuckin weapon ,
to kill spiteful people like you. I bet you think your noble too huh?
You can sit there and say what you want about what the US should or sholdnt be able to do,
it doesn't matter, we proved that we can kick yours and anyone elses ass at the same time!
Thats why we're ovr here now, so eat it cockbreath!
....and what a fantastic job you've done in Iraq.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
You can sit there and say what you want about what the US should or sholdnt be able to do,
it doesn't matter, we proved that we can kick yours and anyone elses ass at the same time!
Thats why we're ovr here now, so eat it cockbreath!
If we were allowed to fight the war with all our capabilitties, asshole, it would've been over immedialtey, believe me!-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
....and what a fantastic job you've done in Iraq.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
You can sit there and say what you want about what the US should or sholdnt be able to do,
it doesn't matter, we proved that we can kick yours and anyone elses ass at the same time!
Thats why we're ovr here now, so eat it cockbreath!
instead we're occupyinfg and policing a bunch of retards in dresses.
thomas you ass, I live 30 minutes from chicago. Tell me where you wanna meet so I can come punch you in the mouth!ThomasMorgan wrote:
Your post is considered inappropriate, please refrain from posting this sort of material. {quote}Maybe in your country you can, but on this site you can't.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
In my country, I can say whatever the fuck I want
Actually, if you take a moment to look around and actually read...i have said plenty on quite a few posts similar to this with my opinions and thoughts. I am an American too, but I dont feel the need to offend, abuse people from somewhere else who doesn't agree with me. People can disagree and be civil at the same time. There is a lot of anti-american, america bashing on this site but I'm not going to have a heart attack over it. Take a breath and say whatever you want, just do it with some common courtesy...is that hard to do?Chuck Biscuits wrote:
No i don't drink fucking coffee, who are you to tell me what I should do? Fuckk off!
You bitches are all out to lunch or something, because if your not pissed about this kinda shit than
you don't belong in here. I don't care if theres 2 or a 1000 peopele reading this shit, you are so
what does that say about you? You wanna say something, but instead of pointing out facts you sit here and
shoot worthless suggestions to me. Fuck you. I hope I get banned from this weak arena.
So if someone invades your country and "occupies" it, wouldn't you be mad ???Chuck Biscuits wrote:
If we were allowed to fight the war with all our capabilitties, asshole, it would've been over immedialtey, believe me!-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
....and what a fantastic job you've done in Iraq.Chuck Biscuits wrote:
You can sit there and say what you want about what the US should or sholdnt be able to do,
it doesn't matter, we proved that we can kick yours and anyone elses ass at the same time!
Thats why we're ovr here now, so eat it cockbreath!
instead we're occupyinfg and policing a bunch of retards in dresses.
At the end of the day wether you like it or not, America went to war in Iraq for $. You really think your government likes spending billions for no return ?
just because you are jealous of Americans and are biased against the United States doesnt mean whatever you say is true, if you intend to make the deaths of 3000 of my people look like a plot for cash, you are a total jackass-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
So if someone invades your country and "occupies" it, wouldn't you be mad ???Chuck Biscuits wrote:
If we were allowed to fight the war with all our capabilitties, asshole, it would've been over immedialtey, believe me!-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
....and what a fantastic job you've done in Iraq.
instead we're occupyinfg and policing a bunch of retards in dresses.
At the end of the day wether you like it or not, America went to war in Iraq for $. You really think your government likes spending billions for no return ?
No, i wouldn't, and thats what i'm saying. I don't agree with the war going on in Iraq and really never did.
Whether its because of money/oil/resources/sacred grounds (beginning of civilization started there didn't it?).
But I do know that if your gonna go to war, like Bush declared in March 2003,
and you have the capabilities, Blast em' away like we did in WW2.
Don't pussyfoot around like we're doing now and we did in Vietnam,
forced to fight a limited war against an unknown enemy! All thats doing is causing unnecessary anguish and sorrow to all who are involved.
Otherwise, doesn't that just prove that we're there with a different agenda in mind, other than to destroy an enemy, which is why,
and only why, war exists in the first place? We're there for other reasons than war I can tell you that.
I've lost friends from my unit while in Iraq and , hell, I was sent there with IMEF Headquarters Group in late October, 2002 for an annual Exercise, historically held in the U.S., but for the first time ever done in Kuwait, called "Internal Look 2002", look it up.
Oh, it's just coincidence that we staged in Kuwait and months later that whole thing turned into an invasion of a country!
Whether its because of money/oil/resources/sacred grounds (beginning of civilization started there didn't it?).
But I do know that if your gonna go to war, like Bush declared in March 2003,
and you have the capabilities, Blast em' away like we did in WW2.
Don't pussyfoot around like we're doing now and we did in Vietnam,
forced to fight a limited war against an unknown enemy! All thats doing is causing unnecessary anguish and sorrow to all who are involved.
Otherwise, doesn't that just prove that we're there with a different agenda in mind, other than to destroy an enemy, which is why,
and only why, war exists in the first place? We're there for other reasons than war I can tell you that.
I've lost friends from my unit while in Iraq and , hell, I was sent there with IMEF Headquarters Group in late October, 2002 for an annual Exercise, historically held in the U.S., but for the first time ever done in Kuwait, called "Internal Look 2002", look it up.
Oh, it's just coincidence that we staged in Kuwait and months later that whole thing turned into an invasion of a country!
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Africa won't send over terrorists...
I am not biased, nor am i jealous of your 300 year old country.sgtpompous wrote:
just because you are jealous of Americans and are biased against the United States doesnt mean whatever you say is true, if you intend to make the deaths of 3000 of my people look like a plot for cash, you are a total jackass-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
So if someone invades your country and "occupies" it, wouldn't you be mad ???Chuck Biscuits wrote:
If we were allowed to fight the war with all our capabilitties, asshole, it would've been over immedialtey, believe me!
instead we're occupyinfg and policing a bunch of retards in dresses.
At the end of the day wether you like it or not, America went to war in Iraq for $. You really think your government likes spending billions for no return ?
Did i say that the deaths of 3000 people was a plot for cash ? No.
I think Britain was just as stupid for following America to Iraq. Maybe there splitting the cash eh ?
For money?.....LOLOLOL....seriously, if we went to war for money, then we are doing it ass-backwards...because all i see is tax dollars that I pay every day going to help fund this war. It goes a lot deeper than money or oil. There is a lot more at stake than that and its naive to pin in on one thing that is obviously not the reason. This is a power struggle between countries that are sunni based, shia based and Iraq is the battleground for it. There are multiple reasons why this war started, why its going on and why it will go on long after we finally go home.-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
So if someone invades your country and "occupies" it, wouldn't you be mad ???Chuck Biscuits wrote:
If we were allowed to fight the war with all our capabilitties, asshole, it would've been over immedialtey, believe me!-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:
....and what a fantastic job you've done in Iraq.
instead we're occupyinfg and policing a bunch of retards in dresses.
At the end of the day wether you like it or not, America went to war in Iraq for $. You really think your government likes spending billions for no return ?
Dont forget the America is not the first to make mistakes and wont be the last. No country is immune to mistakes. Also, America has done many positive things around the world to help many countries, people and governments. No country gives as much money and aide to so many than America does. Dont have a short term memory of the good things this country has done and has tried to do. Like I said, America isnt perfect but name me one country or government that is. Dont be narrow minded and focus on one war and dont be so closed minded and dimiss the good things that are happening in Iraq. Remember, most of you only hear the negative. Have you sat down with an American soldier and listened to what he and his friends sacrificed their lives and time for. The good things they did, the blood and sweat they spilled.
I have and I have lost a friend in a Iraq who was proud of what he was doing there. Whether you like the war or not...dont forget that there are good, honest people trying to do the right things.
For the last fricken time, neither did Iraq!!!Smitty5613 wrote:
Africa won't send over terrorists...
please chuck stop the flamming i dont want this tpoic closed. Its interesting beucase of different peoples point of view.
Right after 9/11, according to Clarke, “The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door, and said, ‘I want you to find whether Iraq did this.’ Now he never said, ‘Make it up.’ But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said Iraq did this. I said, ‘Mr. President. We've done this before. We have been looking at this. We looked at it with an open mind. There's no connection.’ He came back at me and said, ‘Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection’. And in a very intimidating way. I mean that we should come back with that answer. We wrote a report. It was a serious look. We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. We wrote the report. We sent the report out to CIA and found FBI and said, ‘Will you sign this report?’ They all cleared the report. And we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the National Security Advisor or Deputy. It got bounced and sent back saying, ‘Wrong answer. ... Do it again’.”
Wow..just Wow..JahManRed wrote:
Right after 9/11, according to Clarke, “The president dragged me into a room with a couple of other people, shut the door, and said, ‘I want you to find whether Iraq did this.’ Now he never said, ‘Make it up.’ But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said Iraq did this. I said, ‘Mr. President. We've done this before. We have been looking at this. We looked at it with an open mind. There's no connection.’ He came back at me and said, ‘Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection’. And in a very intimidating way. I mean that we should come back with that answer. We wrote a report. It was a serious look. We got together all the FBI experts, all the CIA experts. We wrote the report. We sent the report out to CIA and found FBI and said, ‘Will you sign this report?’ They all cleared the report. And we sent it up to the president and it got bounced by the National Security Advisor or Deputy. It got bounced and sent back saying, ‘Wrong answer. ... Do it again’.”
Source?
Oh yes...Richard Clarke is credible.....NOT!
So the USA's ex White House counter terrorism czar isn't credible? Sorry I didn't realise everyone who worked in the white house wasn't credible.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
Oh yes...Richard Clarke is credible.....NOT!
Perhaps you could furnish me with a list of quotable ppl?
You took your quote in your previous post from a website that was written by God knows who. Richard Clarke, for political and book selling reasons, ran the TV circuit quite a few years ago and pretty much everything he said came down to "he said, she said". He provided no proof of this so called "meeting" and I wonder why the "czar" wouldnt have copied what he claims. It came down to his word against others who say that a meeting that he claims happened never happened. He disappeared shortly after the lime light and again...it was his word...nothing else. Your previous post is not proof of anything....it was taken from a writer on the web, taken from a quote, from a book by Richard Clarke during the time he was promoting his book. His credibility went out the window with his book. Wow...I guess you broke this Iraqi thing wide open...LOL.JahManRed wrote:
So the USA's ex White House counter terrorism czar isn't credible? Sorry I didn't realise everyone who worked in the white house wasn't credible.DeathBecomesYu wrote:
Oh yes...Richard Clarke is credible.....NOT!
Perhaps you could furnish me with a list of quotable ppl?
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Africa is too fucked up to be helped IMHO. The only way to stop poverty and stuff in Africa is by sending heaps, and I mean millions of people to aid Africa, and the AKs and rebels would have to be removed too.
noice 