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2007-06-18 16:16:47
ReDevilJR
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I'm looking to be working a lot this summer to save up for an entire new computer... This is what I'm looking at...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811129021
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835129016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813188012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820220227
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817182067
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822136053
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822136012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835118019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835118219
CD/DVD player/writers and whatnot are chosen out already, not a big problem...

I chose that PSU and case so I'd be able to run SLI later...

Would that motherboard and memory work well together?

Like I said, I'm not buying this tomorrow, hopefully in a month and a half of work... (And after price cuts) Any recommendations?

I chose that memory so I have have 4 gigs of memory on two slots, since I'm getting Vista 64-bit.. I don't want this price to be above $2,000 (USD) (It will lower in a month)

So for the C2D would I lower the multiplier to 6x, therefore bringing my fsb to 400MHz, to match my memory? To get a nice 1:1 ratio between the FSB & Memory. Then incrementing my multiplier to OC it?

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-18 16:24:26)

2007-06-18 16:22:13
Cerpin_Taxt
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That GTX is like $100 more than others on newegg. You can save another $150+ by getting cheaper ram. Save another $50 by going with a less-overkill mobo. Save another $90 by going with this psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817189005

(You can also save another ~$80 by going with a Coolermaster centurion, but cases are usually personal preference).

SLI is impractical.

There you go. Your rig is $400 cheaper and you didn't sacrifice any performance. Get a bigger monitor with the money you saved.

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-06-18 16:24:51)

2007-06-18 16:27:38
ReDevilJR
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Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

That GTX is like $100 more than others on newegg. You can save another $150+ by getting cheaper ram. Save another $50 by going with a less-overkill mobo. Save another $90 by going with this psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817189005

(You can also save another ~$80 by going with a Coolermaster centurion, but cases are usually personal preference).

SLI is impractical.

There you go. Your rig is $400 cheaper and you didn't sacrifice any performance. Get a bigger monitor with the money you saved.
Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-18 16:33:31)

2007-06-18 16:36:11
Cerpin_Taxt
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ReDevilJR wrote:

Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...
You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-06-18 16:36:25)

2007-06-18 16:39:00
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+698|6762|Washington St.
damn dude, you must be just rolling in dough!
2007-06-18 16:41:03
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6822

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...
You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.
Yes, however my computer will run better when there's only one Dual-Channel configuration for memory...

pirana6 wrote:

damn dude, you must be just rolling in dough!
I'm working two part-time jobs currently...

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-18 16:42:21)

2007-06-18 16:42:17
CommieChipmunk
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+488|7041|Portland, OR, USA

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...
You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.
thats true, you're not going to loose a whole lot with a couple mhz tbh....  and 4 gigs is twice as good as 2 gigs... lol
2007-06-18 16:43:28
ReDevilJR
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CommieChipmunk wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...
You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.
thats true, you're not going to loose a whole lot with a couple mhz tbh....  and 4 gigs is twice as good as 2 gigs... lol
This kit comes with 4 gigs of ram total, there's two 2 gigs sticks for that price...
2007-06-18 16:44:02
Cerpin_Taxt
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ReDevilJR wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Thanks for your input, I wasn't however looking to downgrade any of the parts, I was simply asking to make sure everything looked correct, and if there were any suggestions to increment my performance without increased price if at all was possible...
You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.
Yes, however my computer will run better when there's only one Dual-Channel configuration for memory...
That's not the point. With your current build you are just throwing away money. There is no reason to spend $650 on an 8800GTX when you can get one for $550. Making smarter choices is good. Spending the same amount of money, I could assemble a build that greatly outperformed the one you listed...just by picking parts that have high bang for the buck.

Edit: Just noticed you chose a 4gb kit. Regardless, you can get 4gb of ram for half that price.

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-06-18 16:45:31)

2007-06-18 16:50:43
ReDevilJR
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Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

You have to look at the rig as a whole. Without sacrificing any performance, your rig would be $400 cheaper. That $400 can be used to get more ram (you can get 4 gigs of decent ram for less than you're paying for your 2 gigs), a faster cpu, or a benefit you would actually notice: a bigger/nicer monitor. Or you can just pocket the $400.
Yes, however my computer will run better when there's only one Dual-Channel configuration for memory...
That's not the point. With your current build you are just throwing away money. There is no reason to spend $650 on an 8800GTX when you can get one for $550. Making smarter choices is good. Spending the same amount of money, I could assemble a build that greatly outperformed the one you listed...just by picking parts that have high bang for the buck.

Edit: Just noticed you chose a 4gb kit. Regardless, you can get 4gb of ram for half that price.
I chose 4 gig because of Vista, I chose Vista because It'll support DX10... Single Dual-Channel would outperform double Dual-Channel, wouldn't it? Plus I've heard of problems using 4 single gig sticks of memory...

Could I see what you could assemble then for the same price if not less, with much better performance? (Please use the same case, 320GB HD [Backup] and CPU HSF - I'm going to use those regardless.)

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-18 16:55:51)

2007-06-18 17:00:24
Cerpin_Taxt
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Here's a start:

Get this 8800GTX and save $120.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130072

Last edited by Cerpin_Taxt (2007-06-18 17:00:37)

2007-06-18 17:02:33
ReDevilJR
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Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Here's a start:

Get this 8800GTX and save $120.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130072
Isn't it slower? Er, is the performance difference not noticeable?
2007-06-18 17:26:43
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7009|Long Island, New York
The GTX you listed has awesome cooling technology. EVGA rocks. Get it, but only if you're planning to OC into the 610-620 MHz range.

That PSU should be good...especially if you're gonna go SLi.
2007-06-18 17:30:24
Cerpin_Taxt
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Poseidon wrote:

The GTX you listed has awesome cooling technology. EVGA rocks. Get it, but only if you're planning to OC into the 610-620 MHz range.


Do not get it under any circumstances. The differences are negligible and certainly not worth a $120 premium.
2007-06-18 17:37:29
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7009|Long Island, New York

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

The GTX you listed has awesome cooling technology. EVGA rocks. Get it, but only if you're planning to OC into the 610-620 MHz range.


Do not get it under any circumstances. The differences are negligible and certainly not worth a $120 premium.
Eh, your opinion.

If you want it and can, go for it. Better to have a good cooler for OCing than have your regular die due to overheating.

(Btw, I have the regular standardized EVGA 8800 GTX)
2007-06-18 17:40:37
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7009|Long Island, New York
Patriot is ftw. I have two sticks of those and so does my friend. He loves 'em but I haven't used mine yet. AWESOME price on them too.

I also have your case, btw. It's awesome for airflow and cooling.

Last edited by Poseidon (2007-06-18 17:41:13)

2007-06-18 17:45:51
Cerpin_Taxt
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Also, wait until the Intel price drop on July 22nd. You can get a Q6600 for $266.
2007-06-18 17:54:12
ReDevilJR
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Okay... Updated... Again

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835118019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820220161

Looking @ $1,860 ish... - This IS excluding Mail-In Rebates...

Yes, I was planning on waiting for the price drop, isn't there supposed to be one for the 8800 series?
What defines a 'true' quad core? And what programs could take advantage of the intel quad core? Does the intel quad core really qualify as being a true 'quad core?' Would the Quad Core have better OC'ing capabilities? Or the same? Would I be better of getting the E6700 when prices drop as opposed to the quad core?

Would I run a 1:2 FSB-Mem configuration, Or would I boost up the FSB to make it a 3:4 config, or even more?

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-20 13:17:30)

2007-06-18 20:46:44
ReDevilJR
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Is the E6700 also going to come down in price as well? Or just the Q6600? Could someone help me out is to how to figure this whole FSB:memory ratio stuff... using 1066 frequency memory on a 1066 FSB... Thanks!
2007-06-18 20:51:40
CommieChipmunk
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http://www.pcstats.com/NewsView.cfm?NewsID=58654
2007-06-18 20:56:01
ReDevilJR
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'For the mainstream desktop processors, while Core 2 Duo E6000 family has no price update information at this moment, its relatives, Core 2 Duo 6050 family which features 1333MHz FSB releasing on July 22, has got a very impressive price advantage. The 3 models including E6550 (2.33GHz), E6750 (2.66GHz), and E6850 (3GHz) are only priced at $266, $183, and $163, around 40% cheaper than its 1066MHz version. Together with the new release of Bearlake featuring 1333MHz FSB, the both releases are expected to have great sales.'

Would I be looking at the E6750/E6850? Seems cheaper and more bang for the buck... Higher FSB... How would that figure into the FSB:Mem ratio?

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-18 20:57:22)

2007-06-18 20:57:50
Jbrar
rawr
+86|7013|Winterpeg, Canada
don't rush into it... work first ---> spend money after
2007-06-19 17:08:00
ReDevilJR
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Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

I could assemble a build that greatly outperformed the one you listed...just by picking parts that have high bang for the buck.
Is there anything else you can suggest that will increase my performance without increasing the price? (Or decreasing the price - Besides getting a smaller PSU... I AM waiting for the intel price drop)

Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-06-19 17:08:38)

2007-06-19 17:35:53
Darkfire
Helping you help yourself
+34|6949| Texas
the 900 is sex. but i have one of those three speed antec fans to match the other ones in the case. It seems a lot quieter than the normal antec one i had before, just because you can put it on low when your not doing heavy gaming or whatever else. the only downside is its about 20 instead of 13 or so.

 

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