BootsJD
Member
+10|6476
ROFL, Now that I got your attention :

I see alot of people on here bash Snipers in the Game. I play Snipe as one of my Favorite kits and feel I help my team a fair amount as a Sniper. There is 2 type of Snipers:

The Point Whore:

This is the guy who Lays claymores around the Base and runs and Hides and sits back trying to whore as many kills as he can Before anyone on his team gets a chance at a kill for Points. Asks for Ammo mainly to reload on Claymore and Repeat.


The Team Player:

This seems to be never mentioned on how a Sniper could actually help his team. When I play Sniper I use my Claymores the  The way they are supposed to me used and that is to protect myself. I spend 90 % of my time in Zoom mode, I lay my Claymores around me to avoid then ever so Infuriating Knife kills, I then make priority first to look around for my team. Spot Anything that I can see coming so my to take out any body coming close to the flag and on.

Does anyone here agree that a Sniper CAN be a team player or is 90% of the players here feel that a Sniper is in no way a Team player?

Last edited by BootsJD (2007-06-22 23:28:57)

kingofkolt
Member
+17|6488|Boston, MA, USA
I can't keep up with what kits are looked down upon as noobish/stat-padding-ish/etc. It seems everybody has a problem with one particular kit/weapon or another. I split my time about 50/50 between sniper and medic. I NEVER, under ANY circumstances, plant claymores, simply because I have suffered through far too many teamkills caused by some dumbass with a claymore. My mouse's battery cover has popped off on a number of occasions due to my throwing/slamming it after a claymore teamkill. I FUCKING HATE CLAYMORES! Okay, rant finished. Anyway, I definitely think sniping can be beneficial to a team. When I'm a sniper, I always spot people and vehicles as soon as I see them. I protect my flags whenever I have the angle. I attempt to defend (from afar) teammates taking opponents' flags. Snipers can definitely be team players.
aj0405
Member
+19|6425
climbing up onto a tall building and laying claymores around yourself doesn't make you a teamplayer.actually joining a squad and sticking with them while helping them cap flags along the way is being a team player.snipers are looked down upon because they are unable to do this unless they are using the semi-autos or are very skilled with a pistol.the majority of the BF2 community opts to use the bolt actions and stay hundreds of meters away from the battle,thus making them useless for their team other than being arty bait.
znozer
Viking fool - Crazy SWE
+162|6809|Sverige (SWE)

BootsJD wrote:

ROFL, Now that I got your attention :

I see alot of people on here bash Snipers in the Game. I play Snipe as one of my Favorite kits and feel I help my team a fair amount as a Sniper. There is 2 type of Snipers:

The Point Whore:

This is the guy who Lays claymores around the Base and runs and Hides and sits back trying to whore as many kills as he can Before anyone on his team gets a chance at a kill for Points. Asks for Ammo mainly to reload on Claymore and Repeat.


The Team Player:

This seems to be never mentioned on how a Sniper could actually help his team. When I play Sniper I use my Claymores the  The way they are supposed to me used and that is to protect myself. I spend 90 % of my time in Zoom mode, I lay my Claymores around me to avoid then ever so Infuriating Knife kills, I then make priority first to look around for my team. Spot Anything that I can see coming so my to take out any body coming close to the flag and on.

Does anyone here agree that a Sniper CAN be a team player or is 90% of the players here feel that a Sniper is in no way a Team player?
And this has anything to do whit " Why are my Stats not Updating !! " ????
Discuss the thing u spouse to or don't...........
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6704|Brisbane, Australia

znozer wrote:

BootsJD wrote:

ROFL, Now that I got your attention :
And this has anything to do whit " Why are my Stats not Updating !! " ????
Discuss the thing u spouse to or don't...........
did you miss that bit? Obviously he used stats updating to get people to read his topic.

Last edited by TimmmmaaaaH (2007-06-22 23:53:22)

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Tripp
I wanna be on you
+116|6792|So Cal
inb4close
znozer
Viking fool - Crazy SWE
+162|6809|Sverige (SWE)

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

znozer wrote:

BootsJD wrote:

ROFL, Now that I got your attention :
And this has anything to do whit " Why are my Stats not Updating !! " ????
Discuss the thing u spouse to or don't...........
did you miss that bit? Obviously he used stats updating to get people to read his topic.
NO !!! i did not ..........

this post should be closed !!!
Tripp
I wanna be on you
+116|6792|So Cal
inb4closev2.1
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6728|A W S M F O X

znozer wrote:

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

znozer wrote:


And this has anything to do whit " Why are my Stats not Updating !! " ????
Discuss the thing u spouse to or don't...........
did you miss that bit? Obviously he used stats updating to get people to read his topic.
NO !!! i did not ..........

this post should be closed !!!
No you should be castrated to remove yourself from the gene pool.
Rs_Dragongod
Member
+2|6532
Why would you spend that much time zoomed?  The only time I zoom is to shoot or search in likely locations for stationary enemy snipers. Your range of vision is far increased when not scoped.
aj0405
Member
+19|6425

Tripp wrote:

inb4closev2.1
-_-
cowami
OY, BITCHTITS!
+1,106|6554|Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk

aj0405 wrote:

climbing up onto a tall building and laying claymores around yourself doesn't make you a teamplayer.actually joining a squad and sticking with them while helping them cap flags along the way is being a team player.snipers are looked down upon because they are unable to do this unless they are using the semi-autos or are very skilled with a pistol.the majority of the BF2 community opts to use the bolt actions and stay hundreds of meters away from the battle,thus making them useless for their team other than being arty bait.
See, I try (and occasionally do well) serving as designated marksman for squads I'm in, when I'm not AT.

I prefer bolt-actions for that job, not semis.
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Andoura
Got loooollllll ?
+853|6904|Montreal, Qc, Canada

Tripp wrote:

inb4close
ummm dont be suprised if next time you log in in the forums you will be banned


Oh and btw....

Rule # 8 : Use descriptive and appropriate titles when creating a thread. Titles such as, “Help!” “OMG WHAT DO I DO!!?1?@” and “L4m3rS Ar3 5tup1D…” will not generate helpful responses, and ultimately cause more work for users trying to find threads on a given topic.

Last edited by Andoura (2007-06-23 11:28:45)

Grundge
Member
+0|6421
My favourite type of sniper is the type that lays prone, nice and still.  Then I drop supply crates on their ass.


That's what I had to do several times, when I was pinned down by a sniper.  (No arty)
Suicidal
Member
+20|6773
99% of snipers are lame.
Running into enemy spawn points with clay in hand and just dropping it and running back out = LAMER

In fact once you've selected claymore you shouldn't be able to even move! Totally routed to the spot until it's dropped. Then we'll see how many people still want to play sniper
What a great idea for the never coming 1.5 patch!

I only snipe if I have to pick off a few enemy snipers in order to make a crossing, and then I normally pick the kit up off the deck.

Last edited by Suicidal (2007-06-25 04:12:05)

Chaos_nation
Anarchy in the UK
+6|6448|Wolverhampton
Since the Claymore was designed as a passive weapon (I.E. lay it and wait for enemy to pass by) it can be a very effective weapon. It bugs the crap out of me that players think claymores are lame. A claymore placed in a strategic location is a great way to defend your flag. Lets face it you can only lay two which on most flags gives the attacking team plenty more ways to approach without blowing them selves up.

A sniper as a squad leader can be a great team player too. A forward sniper covering his squad as they attack a flag and acting as a forward spawn point is a great tactic.

Stop griping about snipers and claymores. Its your own fault if you die to one!

Last edited by Chaos_nation (2007-06-25 04:07:50)

-[Silver.Inc*
BF2s AU Server Admin
+315|6845|Melbourne, Australia.
theres 3 types imo:

Combat: Plays sniper as he does medic or any other class - close range and such - this is me

Camping: Sits on the highest possible hill every round and waits for a person to come by...

Claymore spamming: Does not use sniper rifle at all - as soon as he spawns he presses 5 and the claymores come out.
kajukenbo_kid
Member
+36|6680|...
play medic
Collateralis
Beep bep.
+85|6635|Stealth on Grand Bazaar

aj0405 wrote:

Actually joining a squad and sticking with them while helping them cap flags along the way is being a team player.
That is what I do all the time, thx for pointing that out. Snipers who lead squads are often the best SL as they hang back slightly, cover longer range shots + short range aid, move in on flags when a path is cleared and whilst capping plant clays to cover flanks. Simple and effective teamwork with a sniper kit. Personally I don't see the point of camping, the game is about capping flags to win, thats what I do. Sitting still isn't fun.
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6788|Little blue planet, milky way
It definately depends on the map and the playing style of the team. Snipers can as previously pointed out, be VERY good SLs because they naturally (longer viewing distance due to scope) stay a bit furhter away from the action than a nade can be spammed at them. Usually they can provide some cover for their advancing team while doing this. This will work fine on maps with limited cover and some distance between flags (Oman and Dalian comes to mind). IMO, it's less usefull on maps like Sharqi and Karkand, first because theres too much cover for the sniper to effectively provide supressive fire, and distances between flags are much shorter. which means that flags can easily be retaken if left without a couple of people to protect it, and the enemy can easily take other routes out of the snipers sights to advance towards the target.

For this reason when I play "team" sniper on a close combat map, I use my claymores to protect the flag we have just capped, I then follow my squad around taking shots at the stationary targets we may find along the way, and as the most expendable person in the squad that caps flags, I also trigger the enemy claymores we may find, so the assault/support can move ahead while the medic revives me (or I respawn on my SL).

However, not all squads are focused on capping flags. Equally important is defending flags, supressing the enemy (though this is often well left to the tanks, APCs and the smurfs), or taking out important enemy assets (not just the arty and UAV, but also helos, tanks etc.), or holding a choke point. For some of these tasks, the claymore is uniquely suited, as it is capable of not only letting me know if someone is approaching our squad from the flank, but also capable of taking out at least one of the offenders. This is somewhat important as an entire squad defending a point will easily become the target of arty, and so needs to keep on the move. Additionally, the scope will allow me to spot enemies reasonably clearly for the spec ops going to blow targets, or for the engy to lay mines, or even warn the assault/support/medics of incoming inf or the likes. The earlier the warning comes, the easier it will be for the squad to take decisive action against the threat. A very active combat sniper will also be able to use the advance position to his benefit by taking out a lot of targets instead of just hiding and taking out the occasional target passing by.

But I think the "only" type of sniper that people "bash", is the so called "gaywhore", who joins a karkand/sharqi/warlord map, and run to the enemy spawn, places his clays, then tries to run back to get resupplied to repeat the process. ONLY to get the explosive kills, in the faint hopes of getting the elusive expert explosives badge. I haven't heard of anyone getting it with sniper since the max number of clays was decreased from 5 pr kit to 2, but who knows... there may be one or two out there who can do it.
I doubt anyone objects to the sniper who sits alone of his mountain top and takes out passersby once in a while... Except when he's the last guy alive on your team and STILL sits there instead of trying to get a flag.
MeanMachine77
Member
+25|6544
Snipers can be team players as well.
If they play right, as a long range fire-support for the team and make use of their longer range.

Also claymores can be used tactically, over the sole intent to guard ones position.
If a sniper sees 6 people charging at him around a corner, what should he do with his bolt action?
Answer is to lay an ambush with a claymore and some nades and therefore delay the enemy squad in its approach. Its not always about points and kills. The points are just a bonus for you dedicating your role as a sniper to the teams work.

As an example:
I made 98 teampoints in this particular rounds and I only played sniper kit. SO you see, its possible.

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/243/520044526_5a5c98b5a8.jpg?v=0
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|7003|Great Wall

MeanMachine77 wrote:

As an example:
I made 98 teampoints in this particular rounds and I only played sniper kit. SO you see, its possible.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/243/5200 … a8.jpg?v=0
If I wanted to have many team points I would gather play as medic. Sniper's job is to kill a lot and not to die.. If you wan't to do medic's job play as medic for a god's sake

Last edited by Drunk_Musketeer (2007-06-25 06:50:06)

MeanMachine77
Member
+25|6544

Drunk_Musketeer wrote:

MeanMachine77 wrote:

As an example:
I made 98 teampoints in this particular rounds and I only played sniper kit. SO you see, its possible.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/243/5200 … a8.jpg?v=0
If I wanted to have many sniper points I would gather play as medic. Sniper's job is to kill a lot and not to die.. If you wan't to do medic's job play as medic for a god's sake
I wasnt up for medic points or something. I was up to fullfilling my squad leaders or commanders orders. If it involves being killed not lying still on a roof, its ok for me.
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|7003|Great Wall
Still.. you would do much better as medic
Ruckel
Ruckel for all!
+43|6440|sverige
IF i play sniper i am the close combat guy, taking flags and being in the frontline. It sucks to lay down and sit in zoom mode for the entire match and waiting for that 1hit wonder imo.
But play sniper in public, that is ok noone takes public serious anyway.

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