Braddock
Agitator
+916|6734|Éire
Another major milestone in the North’s return to normality was being reached today with the last soldiers leaving the former IRA stronghold of South Armagh.

What with all the negative news in Palestine, Darfur, Iraq and Afghanistan (to name but a few) I thought I'd share some good news. The once hopeless quagmire that is Northern Ireland now appears to be reaching a state of relative normality. Power sharing is in place and the last British troops are making there way back home.
Lost Hope
Lurker
+20|6771|Brussels, Belgium
Good but it will be even better on July 31.
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7206

They'll be back.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6734|Éire

usmarine2005 wrote:

They'll be back.
Only if they've forgotten one of their bags or something.
Lost Hope
Lurker
+20|6771|Brussels, Belgium

Braddock wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

They'll be back.
Only if they've forgotten one of their bags or something.
Or if they want to visit the country.
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JahManRed
wank
+646|7072|IRELAND

Sure wasn't I lording it up with our first minister Paisley at the weekend. We were at a wedding on Rathlin Island and he flew in had a wonder about. Half the wedding party were rabid republicans from Dublin and the other half from the unionist stronghold of Ballymena.


South Armagh, or Bandit Country as its known, should have been made part of the Republic in the 20s.  I'm reading this book:https://www.ulsternation.org.uk/images/bandit_country.jpg and anyone who thinks the IRA were a bunch of rag tag armatures should read it. The IRA in South Armagh killed 35 British solders before a volunteer lost his life. And he blew himself up.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7072|IRELAND

usmarine2005 wrote:

They'll be back.
Should that not read "I hope they will be back"?
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7184

JahManRed wrote:

Sure wasn't I lording it up with our first minister Paisley at the weekend. We were at a wedding on Rathlin Island and he flew in had a wonder about. Half the wedding party were rabid republicans from Dublin and the other half from the unionist stronghold of Ballymena.


South Armagh, or Bandit Country as its known, should have been made part of the Republic in the 20s.  I'm reading this book:http://www.ulsternation.org.uk/images/b … ountry.jpg and anyone who thinks the IRA were a bunch of rag tag armatures should read it. The IRA in South Armagh killed 35 British solders before a volunteer lost his life. And he blew himself up.
Nope I don't think the IRA were a bunch of rag tag armatures, I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, but then again I think that of all Terrorists.

But to the OP I am really glad that they may finally be peace coming to Ireland, lets hope that neither side fuck it up.
Penetrator
Certified Twat
+296|6952|Bournemouth, South England
I'm one of the few to remain in NI after the Army hand over to Police Services Northern Ireland (PSNI).  The HLS at Bessbrook fell into my area of work as far as Army aviation goes, and it does represent a significant milestone in the normalisation over here.

This doesn't mean we are pulling military aviation out of province.  We will become worldwide deployable instead of police assistance, mainly in the surveillance and forward support role.  The vast majority of Northern Ireland also becomes designated as a Low Fly Area (LFA), which the military and aviation sorts will understand.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7186|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

paranoid101 wrote:

I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians,.
oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

Lost Hope wrote:

Good but it will be even better on July 31.
How so?

<*reads link*>

Agreed.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-06-25 09:27:08)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6667|Escea

IG-Calibre wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians,.
oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
Wuh-oh here we go, unleash the quotation marks!
Its kinda of like the two corporals who were dragged from their car, beaten, stripped, driven away and then shot on waste ground, wasn't exactly a shining moment.

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-06-25 10:43:53)

IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7186|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

M.O.A.B wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians,.
oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
Wuh-oh here we go, unleash the quotation marks!
Its kinda of like the two corporals who were dragged from their car, beaten, stripped, driven away and then shot on waste ground, wasn't exactly a shining moment.
You're right it wasn't - Bit fucking stupid for 2 SAS operatives to drive at speed, head first,  at a funeral cortege and pull out a hand gun & fire a shot, considering there had all ready been an attack on a republican Funeral a few days before hand, but, that asides I fail to see the point you're making.

EDIT: Further more the perpetrators of those murders were sentenced and jailed, Justice was served.

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2007-06-25 11:30:35)

paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7184

IG-Calibre wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians,.
oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
I Still think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, wasn't taking about the British now was I, I was answering a that post, nothing else.

You need to stop with this romance you seem to have with the IRA that they were freedom fighters, they were just cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, like all other terrorists be it state sponsored or not.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7186|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

paranoid101 wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

I think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians,.
oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
I Still think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, wasn't taking about the British now was I, I was answering a that post, nothing else.

You need to stop with this romance you seem to have with the IRA that they were freedom fighters, they were just cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, like all other terrorists be it state sponsored or not.
Romantic view of the IRA? wind your neck in lad, I know exactly what the IRA were, I also know that the majoriety of "civilian's" that were murdered here was at the "hand" of the British state & Loyalist Terrorists not the IRA.  "terrorist Scum" is an apt title indeed..

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2007-06-25 13:35:15)

paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7184

IG-Calibre wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:


oh really?  like the British state and loyalist paramilitaries who murdered Catholic civilians? Do you feel the same distain for them? While the Brits may be finally retreating today, it's overshadowed by the disgraceful announcement that no "security" force member's will be charged with the murder of Pat Finucane, where it has been proved without doubt that the British State colluded with loyalist terrorists in his assassination. Pathetic, NO JUSTICE!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6237428.stm
I Still think they were a cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, wasn't taking about the British now was I, I was answering a that post, nothing else.

You need to stop with this romance you seem to have with the IRA that they were freedom fighters, they were just cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, like all other terrorists be it state sponsored or not.
Romantic view of the IRA? wind your neck in lad, I know exactly what the IRA were, I also know that the majoriety of "civilian's" that were murdered here was at the "hand" of the British state & Loyalist Terrorists not the IRA.  "terrorist Scum" is an apt title indeed..
You seem not to be reading what I have put, I have not once said the the British were whiter than white, I have not once defended there actions in Ireland, as I said before I was answering a post and I put "cowardly bunch of terrorist scum that targeted civilians, like all other terrorists be it STATE sponsored or not", you seem to think I am defending the British and Ulster lot and just attacking the IRA.

I hate all Terrorist full stop, your the one bringing up the actions of just one side, not me I said all them.

So you do seem to come across as defending one side while attacking the other.

But I will finish in saying that I really hope that they can be some peace in Ireland, without either side fucking it up, maybe its time to forget the past and look to the future for once, just bringing up the past atrocities from both side will just continue the cycle of hate.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7186|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
Fair play mate, I would be of the same persuasion as your self, I view all murder as wrong! Thing is though - here in the north of Ireland, we have pretty much sorted out  the present, &, the future also. The greatest difficulty is going to be sorting out the past.  Moving out of  conflict and reaching a resolution, will very much require a consensus on what exactly happened in the past.  This is going to have to involve the British state recognising the major part it played in conflict, which they will not  do. It seems they believe they are unaccountable for their actions. Why? is the question. The answer is because it will require Justice. Something that the Catholic community here feels they have been denied for over three Decades.  Peace and reconciliation requires Justice for it to be meaningful. Rulings like todays will do nothing to move us forward.

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2007-06-25 14:11:47)

paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7184

IG-Calibre wrote:

Fair play mate, I would be of the same persuasion as your self, I view all murder as wrong! Thing is though - here in the north of Ireland, we have pretty much sorted out  the present, &, the future also. The greatest difficulty is going to be sorting out the past.  Moving out of  conflict and reaching a resolution, will very much require a consensus on what exactly happened in the past.  This is going to have to involve the British state recognising the major part it played in conflict, which they will not  do. It seems they believe they are unaccountable for their actions. Why? is the question. The answer is because it will require Justice. Something that the Catholic community here feels they have been denied for over three Decades.  Peace and reconciliation requires Justice for it to be meaningful. Rulings like todays will do nothing to move us forward.
NP and I apologise for the romance part in my post, I also agree that my government should be accountable for some of the stuff that happened in the Troubles, but I am sad to say I don't think it will ever happens.

Still lets hope they can be a brighter future for Ireland.

Last edited by paranoid101 (2007-06-25 14:21:19)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6734|Éire

paranoid101 wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

Fair play mate, I would be of the same persuasion as your self, I view all murder as wrong! Thing is though - here in the north of Ireland, we have pretty much sorted out  the present, &, the future also. The greatest difficulty is going to be sorting out the past.  Moving out of  conflict and reaching a resolution, will very much require a consensus on what exactly happened in the past.  This is going to have to involve the British state recognising the major part it played in conflict, which they will not  do. It seems they believe they are unaccountable for their actions. Why? is the question. The answer is because it will require Justice. Something that the Catholic community here feels they have been denied for over three Decades.  Peace and reconciliation requires Justice for it to be meaningful. Rulings like todays will do nothing to move us forward.
NP and I apologise for the romance part in my post, I also agree that my government should be accountable for some of the stuff that happened in the Troubles, but I am sad to say I don't think it will ever happens.

Still lets hope they can be a brighter future for Ireland.
Both sides got their hands dirty in the North, both sides truly felt they were acting in the right. Thankfully we're at a stage now where it seems all sides acknowledge that violence has no place in where we go from here.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7186|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

Braddock wrote:

paranoid101 wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

Fair play mate, I would be of the same persuasion as your self, I view all murder as wrong! Thing is though - here in the north of Ireland, we have pretty much sorted out  the present, &, the future also. The greatest difficulty is going to be sorting out the past.  Moving out of  conflict and reaching a resolution, will very much require a consensus on what exactly happened in the past.  This is going to have to involve the British state recognising the major part it played in conflict, which they will not  do. It seems they believe they are unaccountable for their actions. Why? is the question. The answer is because it will require Justice. Something that the Catholic community here feels they have been denied for over three Decades.  Peace and reconciliation requires Justice for it to be meaningful. Rulings like todays will do nothing to move us forward.
NP and I apologise for the romance part in my post, I also agree that my government should be accountable for some of the stuff that happened in the Troubles, but I am sad to say I don't think it will ever happens.

Still lets hope they can be a brighter future for Ireland.
Both sides got their hands dirty in the North, both sides truly felt they were acting in the right. Thankfully we're at a stage now where it seems all sides acknowledge that violence has no place in where we go from here.
Both sides got their hands dirty? You would think! however the general consensus in the Loyalist community is that they are the victims and no one else.. it's gas, here's a discussion on the "healing through remembrance" initiative.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/re … hearts.ram

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