CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|7014|Portland, OR, USA
you're mind does some crazy things.

They've done experiments with water at a molecular level and the way you act towards it changes it.  It's hard to explain.. but it's really weird.  Quantum physics-ish... considering we're made up of mostly water, I wouldn't doubt that in some cases you can influence the outcome...
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

link52787 wrote:

cancer is not genetics.

Cancer is conditional.  People in your family could be prone to have a certain cancer but still is conditional.  Something has to trigger it.
I'm not sure of the details, but my understanding is that some cancers are purely genetic - if you've got the wrong genes you will develop cancer, and there's nothing you (or anybody (with our current level of medical tech)) can do about it.
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

CommieChipmunk wrote:

you're mind does some crazy things.

They've done experiments with water at a molecular level and the way you act towards it changes it.  It's hard to explain.. but it's really weird.  Quantum physics-ish... considering we're made up of mostly water, I wouldn't doubt that in some cases you can influence the outcome...
Sounds, erm... 'interesting'...

Linky?

(please)
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7137
If you think to yourself "Omg I have cancer and I'm not going to make it, this is the end. I'll never be the same again." Then chances are you will either be sick for a long time or you will die. My step sister had cancer recently and she was always in bad moods, depressed, and I guess angry. She had stage 4 cancer when they found it. She had a really hard time with it all. She is getting better now but she is still not in the clear. I feel if she had had a more positive attitude and didn't mope around depressed, she would have had a more speedy and less painful experience.
Bruce-SuperNub
SuperNoob
+26|6593|Scotland

Superior Mind wrote:

If you think to yourself "Omg I have cancer and I'm not going to make it, this is the end. I'll never be the same again." Then chances are you will either be sick for a long time or you will die. My step sister had cancer recently and she was always in bad moods, depressed, and I guess angry. She had stage 4 cancer when they found it. She had a really hard time with it all. She is getting better now but she is still not in the clear. I feel if she had had a more positive attitude and didn't mope around depressed, she would have had a more speedy and less painful experience.
Depending on her age you couldn't expect her to act any differently. If i got cancer, i would be depressed, angry etc. You don't hear alot of good comments with the word "cancer".

I don't think i'd be able to be positive when it comes to things like that.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7137

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

If you think to yourself "Omg I have cancer and I'm not going to make it, this is the end. I'll never be the same again." Then chances are you will either be sick for a long time or you will die. My step sister had cancer recently and she was always in bad moods, depressed, and I guess angry. She had stage 4 cancer when they found it. She had a really hard time with it all. She is getting better now but she is still not in the clear. I feel if she had had a more positive attitude and didn't mope around depressed, she would have had a more speedy and less painful experience.
Depending on her age you couldn't expect her to act any differently. If i got cancer, i would be depressed, angry etc. You don't hear alot of good comments with the word "cancer".

I don't think i'd be able to be positive when it comes to things like that.
She's 24.
Scorpion0x17
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Superior Mind wrote:

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

If you think to yourself "Omg I have cancer and I'm not going to make it, this is the end. I'll never be the same again." Then chances are you will either be sick for a long time or you will die. My step sister had cancer recently and she was always in bad moods, depressed, and I guess angry. She had stage 4 cancer when they found it. She had a really hard time with it all. She is getting better now but she is still not in the clear. I feel if she had had a more positive attitude and didn't mope around depressed, she would have had a more speedy and less painful experience.
Depending on her age you couldn't expect her to act any differently. If i got cancer, i would be depressed, angry etc. You don't hear alot of good comments with the word "cancer".

I don't think i'd be able to be positive when it comes to things like that.
She's 24.
D.A.B.D.A.

Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.

Some people will miss out some of the stages, but this is, in general, the stages we go through when we grieve (and was summed up very nicely in a scene in a Simpson episode).

Many people grieve for themselves when they learn that they have cancer. The families of cancer victims often have it the hardest - they end up grieving twice - once when they learn their loved one has cancer, and again when that loved one dies.
killaer
Member
+41|7162
Cancer is not a "mind disease" but stress for sure has a signifigant effect on our health. If every single day of your life you are over-worked and over-stressed, then yes, you will increase your chances to get stress linked diseases.
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6865|Melbourne, AUS

Superior Mind wrote:

If you think to yourself "Omg I have cancer and I'm not going to make it, this is the end. I'll never be the same again." Then chances are you will either be sick for a long time or you will die. My step sister had cancer recently and she was always in bad moods, depressed, and I guess angry. She had stage 4 cancer when they found it. She had a really hard time with it all. She is getting better now but she is still not in the clear. I feel if she had had a more positive attitude and didn't mope around depressed, she would have had a more speedy and less painful experience.
Are you sure it was Stage 4? Maybe it was just a tumour? If it was S4 even a better attitude would have done no good, as Stage 4 equates to inevitable death.
V1king
Member
+10|6599|Land of crocs and cane toads
It's been pointed out that cancer is not a "mind disease" and yeah, I could have worded that better and renamed it as a "mind over matter" scenario whether voluntary or otherwise..  Ooops....my bad.

Also mentioned was the the ability to will yourself out of ill health (in this case, cancer) which I'm sure their are some people who may but no evidence again to back this up.  This to me would be a voluntary action which I'm sure would be inconceivable in most cases but my point was more of an involuntary one.  It's not something you think about, but how you feel every day of your life that poses the threat of cancer along with many other illnesses in the future.  For example, if you feel ill, your immune system is working to fix it but you have no voluntary control over it.  If you bleed from a cut, your involuntary reflexes go to work and clot the blood and for every beat of your heart again is not something you consciously control but it still beats.  See my point? 

What I'm really trying to say, it is our our sub-conscious that controls how our fate will be determined by being consciously positive in our daily outlook.  Another theory that's been put out there by some scientist, is that you are born with some cancers as such but it's in a harmless state that can be triggered by many factors or not at all.  THis to me sounds more like a genetic cancer though.
HeavyMetalDave
Metal Godz
+107|7102|California
Cancer = Natures population control...

Bam...
Canadian_Sniper_X
Member
+45|6933|Kamloops, BC Canada
Stress destroys your body. So I believe that leading a stressful life can cause one to be susceptible to it. (That word took me a long time to get right)
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|7138|San Francisco

HeavyMetalDave wrote:

Cancer = Natures population control...

Bam...
Then I guess I punched Nature in the face, huh? 

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