BF2S Forums mankinds infamy or fame?

Both in some cases, But destructive most of the time because of our technological advances, We need to keep busy fighting for survival against nature and the elements or we will start killing the only other animal that poses a challenge. Ourselves!

Last edited by David.Podedworny (2007-06-29 20:25:02)

constructive in the sense that we have created more than any other species in history, but destructive in the sense that we are capable of exterminating almost any other species.

on that note, how come giant pandas are so easy to exterminate, but malaria is so had?

why can't the unwanted species be as easy to destroy as the "beloved" ones?

S.Lythberg wrote:

on that note, how come giant pandas are so easy to exterminate, but malaria is so had?

why can't the unwanted species be as easy to destroy as the "beloved" ones?

Because everything in the universe is bound by contradiction. No matter how small or how big we are all bound by contradiction one of the base laws of the universe.(But not me i will break away from this contradictory path that is set by god and create my own)

Last edited by David.Podedworny (2007-06-29 20:45:10)

While the human species has done many great things, and could continue to do such, we let greed, jealousy, religion and other things get in the way.  We are here for the short term if we don't get our shit together.

David.Podedworny wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

While the human species has done many great things, and could continue to do such, we let greed, jealousy, religion and other things get in the way.  We are here for the short term if we don't get our shit together.

Religion is not the problem, The ease of exploitation of religion is the problem.

That is a falousy of religion, and therefore, a problem with religion.  Don't just single out a small portion and not substantiate your claims.

Either way, religion is a product of the human species, and in one way or another has contributed to the downfall.

David.Podedworny wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

While the human species has done many great things, and could continue to do such, we let greed, jealousy, religion and other things get in the way.  We are here for the short term if we don't get our shit together.

Religion is not the problem, The ease of exploitation of religion is the problem.

I would actually say the motivation for religion is often the problem.

We have a natural tendency to make assumptions where there are no empirical answers for something at the time.  Long before we really had anything resembling science, we created religion to answer all those questions we had but had no logical answer for.

In combination with this tendency to make a lot of assumptions, we also tend to be creatures of habit.  So, when we put a tradition in place, it doesn't matter how stupid the practice proves to be later on, it takes a long time to end it.

So, when you combine what essentially are baseless assumptions (religion) with stubbornness (blind adherence to tradition) and then get very different cultures to interact with each other (each of which believes their religions and traditions are superior), you end up with war.

In the modern age, this takes on a more materialistic and political angle, so that we justify war for ourselves by pretending that so-and-so is a grave threat to us, when the people behind the war machine are just looking for power, resources, and wealth.   The motivations of the powers that be haven't changed much, but their methods of manipulating us have....

In summary, we are undoubtedly more destructive than constructive, but that's not to say we haven't accomplished anything....

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-06-29 21:13:23)

TeamZephyr wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Is mankind more destructive or constructive?

Personally, I believe we are amazingly destructive. Bombs, war, self enduced plauges, biological weapons, guns, knifes, killing. It will never end with us.

I'm probably going to have to go with you on that one. Mankind in comparison to other species has to be one of the worst at killing each other. Our so called "advances" have lead to us creating and discovering things like guns, gunpowder, atomic bombs, biological agents and so forth. In the past century alone we've gone through heaps of wars and genocide that we have inflicted on ourselves.

We just can't sort it out

Unfortunately, that is the paradox.  We have created some of the most beneficial advances in technology as a result of our R&D on war technology.  It's rather unfortunate.  :\

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

TeamZephyr wrote:

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Is mankind more destructive or constructive?

Personally, I believe we are amazingly destructive. Bombs, war, self enduced plauges, biological weapons, guns, knifes, killing. It will never end with us.

I'm probably going to have to go with you on that one. Mankind in comparison to other species has to be one of the worst at killing each other. Our so called "advances" have lead to us creating and discovering things like guns, gunpowder, atomic bombs, biological agents and so forth. In the past century alone we've gone through heaps of wars and genocide that we have inflicted on ourselves.

We just can't sort it out

Unfortunately, that is the paradox.  We have created some of the most beneficial advances in technology as a result of our R&D on war technology.  It's rather unfortunate.  :\

Yes but the reason for that R&D was war, which was started because some one group was more constructive than another.

SGT.Mays wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

TeamZephyr wrote:

I'm probably going to have to go with you on that one. Mankind in comparison to other species has to be one of the worst at killing each other. Our so called "advances" have lead to us creating and discovering things like guns, gunpowder, atomic bombs, biological agents and so forth. In the past century alone we've gone through heaps of wars and genocide that we have inflicted on ourselves.

We just can't sort it out

Unfortunately, that is the paradox.  We have created some of the most beneficial advances in technology as a result of our R&D on war technology.  It's rather unfortunate.  :\

Yes but the reason for that R&D was war, which was started because some one group was more constructive than another.

Oh reallyY!?!?!  They were more constructive?!?!?  Not hardly...the answer is that they had developed something more DESTRUCTIVE!!!! It is only after the fact that we realize that something created for war could actually benefit the species.

SGT.Mays wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

SGT.Mays wrote:

Yes but the reason for that R&D was war, which was started because some one group was more constructive than another.

Oh reallyY!?!?!  They were more constructive?!?!?  Not hardly...the answer is that they had developed something more DESTRUCTIVE!!!! It is only after the fact that we realize that something created for war could actually benefit the species.

So your saying, that wars where started just because we could kill them. Not becuase they had gold to take or had recently built a temple to some other god?

Im going with mays on this one. wars are fought over a few key things. One money. Two land. three technology or any other kewl stuff the enemy has. Four and this is a sometimes is pootytang.

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

SGT.Mays wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Oh reallyY!?!?!  They were more constructive?!?!?  Not hardly...the answer is that they had developed something more DESTRUCTIVE!!!! It is only after the fact that we realize that something created for war could actually benefit the species.

So your saying, that wars where started just because we could kill them. Not becuase they had gold to take or had recently built a temple to some other god?

Im going with mays on this one. wars are fought over a few key things. One money. Two land. three technology or any other kewl stuff the enemy has. Four and this is a sometimes is pootytang.

In past times, I'm sure much of it was fought for land, wealth, religon, or various other reasons.  Fast forward to the last 100 years.  Much of the technology that we rant and rave about, or has saved our lives, or become so common place we don't thing about it, is....due to R&D from warfare.

We are humans, we build, we destroy, we rebuild, we destroy again, and along the way, we learn things, and in general, even though people regurally make stupid mistakes, we make advancements, for what ever we destroy, we have to create first, and there is still things left. I guess as a summary you could say we do both, but in the end, we still build and fix more then we destroy.