BF2S Forums Terrorists, the punishment?

Parker wrote:

[bpuk]jack wrote:

Parker wrote:

and how many times did you shoot that?

where did you shoot it?
are you in the military?
what range were your targets?

military firing range named otmoor and at pembary sands (an artillery and bombing range)
no i just have a few high ranking officers as friends
1500m - 2500m

so, you would say that your experience with that rifle is limited?


would you also say that a .50 BMG round is *slightly* more powerful than your average rifle round?



if i read correctly, you suggested this as a punishment for terrorists.....or compared it to the saudis method of handling these things.
if that were to happen, it really wouldnt effect any terrorists.........there arent too many of them running around with .50s....and a 7.62 would be manageable.

never said it was for terrorists
said it was an example of eye for an  eye for snipers
read properly before trying to have a go

What the hell do half these posts have to do with the punishments for terrorism? Argue over PM's or Vent or something.

Anyway, if these terrorists want to die and get their "72 virgins", I'll happily save them some time and arrange the meeting a lot sooner.

Lock them up for life in a damp, small, rotten prison. with a basic mattress, Daily bread and water, and leave them there to rot in their own sewage.

That's what id do.

S.Lythberg wrote:

[bpuk]jack wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Most terrorists don't really mind death, and in the case of Islamic ones, they want to die as fast as possible, preferably at the hands of the infidel, to get into heaven (yeah right, how does blowing up a bus please god?) faster.

The only way to truly make then fear capture would be to torture them to death, and that is against everything the western world stands for.

Honestly, in the end it does not really matter what happens to the captured ones, its the ones we dont have that need to die.

mmm i get what you are saying
but people have t othink of the peace of mind of the public and the way the governments have to seem strong against a terrorist threat. so scapegating could be the answer.

there are two types of people that dont deserve to live - paedophiles (including general rapists) and murderers (including terrorists)

rape ruins someones life and those around them
murder ends someones life and ruins those around them

But again, death does not faze a martyr, and it won't really satisfy many people.
Yeah, we've all heard the "closure" arguement, but putting a terrorist in a cell with a few texans for a few years would be much more effective in my opinion.

As for pedophiles/rapists, the Saudis have a punishment involving a sword that I find quite effective...

I don't totally agree with your statement that every terrorists wants to die. I have seen plenty of videos of captured terrorists and/ or insurgents begging for their lives. Saw one video of a cameraman that was to video a ambush get ambushed himself. I didn't hear him cry "allah" and run towards the infidels...what he did was quickly run the other way, but he couldn't outrun the bullets and he caught his own death on tape. He wasn't happy to die. He died a coward running away.

Jibbles wrote:

What the hell do half these posts have to do with the punishments for terrorism? Argue over PM's or Vent or something.

It's more like a thread of fap material for wanna-be stone cold killahs to talk about how they'd deal with dem evil terrists, each trying to outdo each other on how brutal they can be and ironically displaying how little difference there is between themselves and the scumbags of Al Qaeda; mainly a willingness to pick up a gun and actually get their hands dirty.

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Oh, And you'd do what exactly? Allow them to continue walking the streets? let them serve a sentence then be released back into the world, to possibly blow up some more stuff?

I'd put them in prison. Supermax, life sentence, no parole. And none of this "Hurrr, let's cut their fingers off and force-feed them pork" Rambo wanna-be wankfest crap. That good enough for you, kid, or do I have to engage in the unrealistic Jack Bauer revenge fantasy bullshit to get your approval?

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Oh, And you'd do what exactly? Allow them to continue walking the streets? let them serve a sentence then be released back into the world, to possibly blow up some more stuff?

I'd put them in prison. Supermax, life sentence, no parole. And none of this "Hurrr, let's cut their fingers off and force-feed them pork" Rambo wanna-be wankfest crap. That good enough for you, kid, or do I have to engage in the unrealistic Jack Bauer revenge fantasy bullshit to get your approval?

There´s one problem in throwing them in jail for life it costs money allot of money and is there really more human to lock someone in jail for the rest of their life than execute them?

madmurre wrote:

There´s one problem in throwing them in jail for life it costs money allot of money and is there really more human to lock someone in jail for the rest of their life than execute them?

Humane's got nothing to do with it.

One, I'd rather give them life imprisonment as a punishment than a quick, clean death at the hands of the State. Two, if someone fucks up it's a lot easier to release someone from prison than it is to release them from the grave. Three, the State shouldn't be in the business of judicial execution since it can use that to remove or silence people that need to be heard. Those costs greatly outweigh whatever it would cost to incarcerate them for life. Besides, the prison industry overcharges us out the ass to warehouse criminals, that's the real cost problem.

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Oh, And you'd do what exactly? Allow them to continue walking the streets? let them serve a sentence then be released back into the world, to possibly blow up some more stuff?

I'd put them in prison. Supermax, life sentence, no parole. And none of this "Hurrr, let's cut their fingers off and force-feed them pork" Rambo wanna-be wankfest crap. That good enough for you, kid, or do I have to engage in the unrealistic Jack Bauer revenge fantasy bullshit to get your approval?

1. you just called me kid. So you'd never get it. I don't appreciate being called kid by someone who is most probably prepubescent.

2. But yeah your idea for them is better than most of the ones in here.

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

1. you just called me kid. So you'd never get it. I don't appreciate being called kid by someone who is most probably prepubescent.

I called you "kid" because you immediately assumed my solution was going to be to just treat these fuckers like they were fucking jaywalkers, which is usually the prepubescent response to anything I or any other lefty has to say on this issue. Yes, I have serious fucking problems with the government of this country and how it deals with other nations, their people and its own people, but I don't give a free pass to murderers. Just because I understand what creates them and what causes their mindset doesn't mean I excuse their actions.

And for the record I was born in 1971.

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

2. But yeah your idea for them is better than most of the ones in here.

Nobody seems to want good ideas these days. They want simple, easy ideas, which is what got us where we are now. But I thank you for the compliment anyway.

[bpuk]jack wrote:

from the IRA, to Al-Queda they have never been dealt with properly.   The IRA terrorist who bombed the entire british cabinet while Thatcher was in power in the Brighton Hotel is about to be released.  He killed and maimed half of the British 'Party in powers' ' cabinet.  This man should not be allowed to walk on gods' given earth, he damn well brought the government to take large scale reprisals in Irish cities as they were doing in England. (This is fact, a friend of mine was a Colonel in the Royal Artillery stationed in Northern Ireland, their guns artillery pieces) were trained on Dublin awaiting the Prime Ministers go ahead.

The IRA were at war with an occupying army. Their prisoners had political status and were regarded as prisoners of war. When wars finish the prisoners of war are released. This happened and by letting it happen the British government admitted it was a war. Under Thatcher they were terrorists under Blair they were political prisoners.
The IRA hated Thatcher mainly because she introduced hundreds of SAS into Northern Ireland with shoot to kill orders and denied them political prisoner status, this made her enemy number one and its why they went after her. She would have been killed only she was in the bathroom at the time.
If the British government had carried on the way thatcher done, we would still have carnage in Northern Ireland and we would still have bombings in England.

[bpuk]jack wrote:

from the IRA, to Al-Queda they have never been dealt with properly.   The IRA terrorist who bombed the entire british cabinet while Thatcher was in power in the Brighton Hotel is about to be released.  He killed and maimed half of the British 'Party in powers' ' cabinet.  This man should not be allowed to walk on gods' given earth, he damn well brought the government to take large scale reprisals in Irish cities as they were doing in England. (This is fact, a friend of mine was a Colonel in the Royal Artillery stationed in Northern Ireland, their guns artillery pieces) were trained on Dublin awaiting the Prime Ministers go ahead.

That's a fair enough point of view but in that case the paras who killed civilians on Bloody Sunday should all be deprived of the right to walk on God's given earth too, I can't stand double standards.

In terms of punishment for terrorists ...just punish them to the fullest capacity that your existing legal system allows, don't change your Government and constitution because of Terrorists, it's this very constitution and system of Government you're fighting to preserve in the face of this extremism.

If a British citizen (or ANY citizen of ANY country) performs a terrorist act (or aides a known terrorist or terrorist organisation),
isnt that called Treason?
For example - the weekend attempted terror bombings in Britain. Im not fully up with the facts (the news is pretty much lacking in
Aussie), but if the suspects are British Citizens, then the charges should be "Treason", for that is what they are - Traitors.

Punishment for Traitors=Death. (or a lengthy stay in the Tower of London.... not sure what the laws for Treason are in Britain.)