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2007-07-05 20:59:31
Harmor
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+605|6992|San Diego, CA, USA
The UK has socialized medicine.  Because they don't pay their doctors as much as doctors in the United States they import many more foreign doctors because people who would normally be a doctor are instead a scientist or other profession that pays more and is more respected.

In the United States doctors are idolized, but in the UK they are looked at more like public servants (someone from the UK please correct me if I'm wrong).

Apparently many of the Doctor Terrorist are from sponsoring/harboring countries (look at where the UK Doctor Terrorists came from).

Also in the United States doctors have Practices.  A practice, for those who do not know, is like a small business where doctors work together (its a legal type of small business agreement), in small groups (usually 3-5 doctors).

Because of the organization of doctors into Practices you don't have what you do in the UK where these foreign doctors have alot of extra time on their hand.  In a Practice its also less likely that one of them are going to go wacky.  So unless you're all Doctor Terrorists in a Practice...


Someone who is the health care field probably can explain it better.



The solution:

Do not allow immigration from countries that sponsor/harbor terrorists.
2007-07-05 21:15:40
elstonieo
Oil 4 Euros not $$$
+20|6782|EsSeX

Harmor wrote:

The UK has socialized medicine.  Because they don't pay their doctors as much as doctors in the United States they import many more foreign doctors because people who would normally be a doctor are instead a scientist or other profession that pays more and is more respected.

In the United States doctors are idolized, but in the UK they are looked at more like public servants (someone from the UK please correct me if I'm wrong).
who have you been talking to or did you just make this up on your own

You are wrong the best Doctor Ive ever had was a Pakistani Surgeon

Also in the United States doctors have Practices.  A practice, for those who do not know, is like a small business where doctors work together (its a legal type of small business agreement), in small groups (usually 3-5 doctors).
we have these as well

Last edited by elstonieo (2007-07-05 21:18:39)

2007-07-05 21:22:31
Harmor
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I know the Private Practices in the UK, but I'm talking about the Public Health care system.
2007-07-05 21:31:08
elstonieo
Oil 4 Euros not $$$
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Harmor wrote:

I know the Private Practices in the UK, but I'm talking about the Public Health care system.
yeah but the NHS has Doctors Surgeries that are the same as Private Practices with 1 to 5 doctors

In the UK if your ill and its not an Emergency we visit (in most cases) a local doctor surgery first
we only goto the big hospitals if its an Emergency or our Doctor refers us to a specialist
2007-07-05 21:50:51
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6723
I'd say "You've got to be fucking kidding me with this post", but unfortunately I know you're not.

Okay, this is what you need to do here. Find out how many doctors there are in the world that have come from these "sponsoring/harboring" countries, then figure out what percentage of that number these "doctor terrorists" are. Then please post that percentage here, so we can all get a solid view of what pantswetting paranoia really looks like.
2007-07-06 00:24:29
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7118|Canberra, AUS
Whaa?

This has to be one of the most farfetched, poorly-thought up hypotheses I've ever seen.

There is no evidence, no factual basis apart from a very, very vague link involving one country.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2007-07-06 00:36:53
PureFodder
Member
+225|6729
That's exactly right, here in the UK our doctors are exploding all around us. Going in for a check-up there's like a 50:50 chance that halfway through your doctor will scream something Arabic then blow up the entire hospital. Those crazy liberals are blaming a new highly contagious, explosive strain of the MRSA bug, but we know the truth. Damn these doctors and their self-combusting tendencies!

[/whatinthegoddamnedhellareyoutalkingabout]
2007-07-06 02:21:27
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6859|Vienna

PureFodder wrote:

That's exactly right, here in the UK our doctors are exploding all around us. Going in for a check-up there's like a 50:50 chance that halfway through your doctor will scream something Arabic then blow up the entire hospital. Those crazy liberals are blaming a new highly contagious, explosive strain of the MRSA bug, but we know the truth. Damn these doctors and their self-combusting tendencies!

[/whatinthegoddamnedhellareyoutalkingabout]
And they also like to put bombs inside infants that blow up at their Christening killing infidel priests !!!!!!!
2007-07-06 03:57:17
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7201|Argentina
Wtf?  This thread is full of prejudice, bigotry and it's clearly poorly thought.  Now, a doctor from Pakistan must be a terrorist coz he's from a country that harbors terrorists?  Oh, go Harbor, eh Harmor, Fox News is about to start don't miss it.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-07-06 03:58:00)

2007-07-06 04:00:16
CameronPoe
Member
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Harmor appears to be finally losing it. Your little story has so many gaping fact-holes it's not funny.

Apparently propensity to commit acts of terrorism is proportional to spare time now...

Doctors having spare time: lol.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-07-06 04:02:35)

2007-07-06 05:17:55
mcminty
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Spark wrote:

Whaa?

This has to be one of the most farfetched, poorly-thought up hypotheses I've ever seen.

There is no evidence, no factual basis apart from a very, very vague link involving one country.
QFE!
2007-07-06 05:23:05
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

Is this a joke?
2007-07-06 05:24:41
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7201|Argentina

Bertster7 wrote:

Is this a joke?
Sadly, I think it's not.  Freedom of speech ftw (with limitations, lol).
2007-07-06 05:42:47
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6963|Πάϊ

CameronPoe wrote:

Doctors having spare time: lol.
Don't you know it? Free time makes people go all crazy in the head! They get stupid ideas like holidays 'n shit! Extreme cases even develop - dare I say it? - "hobbies"!!!! Now imagine a doctor with a hobby of making bombs. That sure is scary shit...
ƒ³
2007-07-06 05:49:39
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6907|Tyne & Wear, England
"Doctor Terrorists".  Lol is about all I can say.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2007-07-06 06:01:54
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6907|Tyne & Wear, England
OK, let me suggest why your theory is completely flawed.  If someone is a doctor they will have a high quality of life, plenty of disposable income etc etc.  This high quality of life means that the likelihood of a doctor willing to kill himself in the name of Allah is so incredibly low that it is just not an issue.

I base this theory on the fact that most terrorists who end up turning into suicide bombers come from very poor and empoverished backgrounds and are exploited into killing themselves in the name of Allah, by their superiors who actually have a something to lose.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
2007-07-06 06:03:56
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6734|Éire
Seems like a desperate attempt to take a swipe at socialism to me.

Harold Shipman caused more loss of life than these muppet doctors and he wasn't from the Middle East ...although he did have way too much spare time on his hands!
2007-07-06 06:46:41
agent146
Member
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wtf so because their forgein they are a labelled "terrorist" in canada in the hospital my mothers works in. there are alot of doctors that are different countries learning and researching together. You make it sound every foreign doctor to be a disgruntled ex soviet union scientist that is willing to make a suit case nuke for a certain price.
EDIT: https://cagle.com/working/070705/lester.jpg for funs

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2007-07-06 07:43:17
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6992|San Diego, CA, USA

KILLSWITCH wrote:

OK, let me suggest why your theory is completely flawed.  If someone is a doctor they will have a high quality of life, plenty of disposable income etc etc.  This high quality of life means that the likelihood of a doctor willing to kill himself in the name of Allah is so incredibly low that it is just not an issue.

I base this theory on the fact that most terrorists who end up turning into suicide bombers come from very poor and impoverished backgrounds and are exploited into killing themselves in the name of Allah, by their superiors who actually have a something to lose.
7 of the 8 terrorists in the UK bombings were Doctors or in the medical profession earning quite well (they used Mercedes in the bombings for example).

Bin Ladin is a rich Saudi.

I too think that poor and impoverished Muslims are easier to recruit, but these Doctor Terrorists rebuff that trend.  Perhaps they are really impoverished with the wages that the UK pays their doctors, but I think not.
2007-07-06 07:45:30
Bertster7
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Harmor wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

OK, let me suggest why your theory is completely flawed.  If someone is a doctor they will have a high quality of life, plenty of disposable income etc etc.  This high quality of life means that the likelihood of a doctor willing to kill himself in the name of Allah is so incredibly low that it is just not an issue.

I base this theory on the fact that most terrorists who end up turning into suicide bombers come from very poor and impoverished backgrounds and are exploited into killing themselves in the name of Allah, by their superiors who actually have a something to lose.
7 of the 8 terrorists in the UK bombings were Doctors or in the medical profession earning quite well (they used Mercedes in the bombings for example).

Bin Ladin is a rich Saudi.

I too think that poor and impoverished Muslims are easier to recruit, but these Doctor Terrorists rebuff that trend.  Perhaps they are really impoverished with the wages that the UK pays their doctors, but I think not.
Have you totally neglected to consider the fact that doctors, in the UK and the US, have probably the highest suicide rate of any profession?

You don't think that might be far more relevant?

It's not necessarily how much money someone earns that makes them a potential target for terrorist recruiters, it's vulnerability and people who are suicidal can certainly be considered to be vulnerable.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-06 07:47:03)

2007-07-06 07:51:12
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6992|San Diego, CA, USA

sergeriver wrote:

Wtf?  This thread is full of prejudice, bigotry and it's clearly poorly thought.  Now, a doctor from Pakistan must be a terrorist coz he's from a country that harbors terrorists?  Oh, go Harbor, eh Harmor, Fox News is about to start don't miss it.
I'm not saying that ALL doctors from Pakistan are terrorists, but so far all terrorists have been extremist Muslims.  I mean that is where the Taliban has their bases now.  And if you recall about a month ago they had their 'graduation ceremony' of their most recent terrorists.

All of the UK doctors were foreigners.  The UK imports 50% of their doctors.  There is no leap in logic that if you import doctors from countries that harbor/support terrorists that some of those doctors, granted a very very small percentage of them, will be terrorists.



Now I hope this report from the UK that there are 45 foreign doctor terrorists in the United States bent on carrying out similar attacks this summer.

Even though doctors get paid alot more in the United States we still import foreign doctors.  And since we have a larger population, even though its a smaller percentage of foreign doctors the actual number is larger than the UK.

The terrorist know that we give lienency to doctors when allowing people into the United States, thus they are exploiting our bureaucracy.
2007-07-06 07:56:16
jonsimon
Member
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Harmor wrote:

I'm not saying that ALL doctors from Pakistan are terrorists, but so far all terrorists have been extremist Muslims.
There have been tons of white terrorists throughout history. You meant to say "but so far all islamic terrorists have been extreme muslims."
2007-07-06 07:58:37
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7201|Argentina

Harmor wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Wtf?  This thread is full of prejudice, bigotry and it's clearly poorly thought.  Now, a doctor from Pakistan must be a terrorist coz he's from a country that harbors terrorists?  Oh, go Harbor, eh Harmor, Fox News is about to start don't miss it.
I'm not saying that ALL doctors from Pakistan are terrorists, but so far all terrorists have been extremist Muslims.  I mean that is where the Taliban has their bases now.  And if you recall about a month ago they had their 'graduation ceremony' of their most recent terrorists.

All of the UK doctors were foreigners.  The UK imports 50% of their doctors.  There is no leap in logic that if you import doctors from countries that harbor/support terrorists that some of those doctors, granted a very very small percentage of them, will be terrorists.



Now I hope this report from the UK that there are 45 foreign doctor terrorists in the United States bent on carrying out similar attacks this summer.

Even though doctors get paid alot more in the United States we still import foreign doctors.  And since we have a larger population, even though its a smaller percentage of foreign doctors the actual number is larger than the UK.

The terrorist know that we give lienency to doctors when allowing people into the United States, thus they are exploiting our bureaucracy.
Dude, I don't want to be rude, but you need to stop living in paranoia.  There are terrorists around,  that's true.  But you can't live having suspicion on everyone coz of their origin.  I agree that those doctors should be punished, but you can't punish all the doctors from Pakistan or anywhere else where terrorists are sponsored.  You won't beat terrorism with prejudice and stereotyping, you can beat it using good information and attacking the well educated assholes who sponsor these terrorists.
2007-07-06 07:59:20
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7025|SE London

Harmor wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Wtf?  This thread is full of prejudice, bigotry and it's clearly poorly thought.  Now, a doctor from Pakistan must be a terrorist coz he's from a country that harbors terrorists?  Oh, go Harbor, eh Harmor, Fox News is about to start don't miss it.
I'm not saying that ALL doctors from Pakistan are terrorists, but so far all terrorists have been extremist Muslims.
That's not true either.

There have been two successful terror attacks in the UK this year, one of which was conducted by extremist Muslims. That's only half.

Stopped chatting biggotted rubbish about stuff you seem to know nothing about.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-07-06 08:02:21)

 

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