making new comp

2007-07-06 15:22:57

#1

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

I'm planning to slap together a new comp in about a month. My current PC is a:

3ghz P4 HT
1GB RAM
6800GT

Since I'm in Canada I'm planning to do all the buying at www.ncix.com
These are the parts I've picked out, and once again, this isn't final or anything, I'll probably be changing the
parts based on what has gone down in price and what rebates are going on in a month.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18495 x2
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21228
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21408
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=24886
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18885

I'm also thinking of throwing in a CPU and maybe a GPU heatsink. I'd be building this PC on my own which
is something I'm fine with. I'd salvage a pair of SATA harddrives from my old comp (120gb each) and also a
soundcard which I believe is a Creative Audigy Value. I also need to throw in a DVD drive.

I'd just like some advice on which particular brands/products to get, or thoughts on if this is a good plan.
Also, is that soundcard still ok? I don't really have any high end speakers or anything so I thought a new
soundcard would be unnecessary. From what I've heard the tech isn't going to change that much in a month.
Right now these parts are about 1500 all together and it would be nice if that could get a bit lower.

2007-07-06 15:25:11

#2

r'Eeee: That's how I roll, BITCH!; +311|6920

I would go with C2D rather than AMD CPU.

2007-07-06 15:26:29

#3

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

Well, I've read that AMD dual cores preform better. I don't really want to get into the whole OMG INTEL/AMD SUX thing, I think the differences are pretty minor. I guess I would go with what's cheaper.

2007-07-06 15:28:15

#4

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6914|Stealth City, UK

Mr_Fofo wrote:
Well, I've read that AMD dual cores preform better. I don't really want to get into the whole OMG INTEL/AMD SUX thing, I think the differences are pretty minor. I guess I would go with what's cheaper.

What have you been reading? Obviously thats not right, AMD aren't even close to Intel at the moment.

Going with what's cheaper is stupid when it comes to getting a rig that you are happy with, spend what you can and you'll be good.

So go for an Intel CPU and a Skt 775 board and you'll be laughing!

p.s. Don't think that case is anything special for the price, I'm sure they'll be a lot of suggestions for an Antec 900 instead.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-06 15:30:29)

2007-07-06 15:32:45

#5

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

I spent about 15 mins last night getting these components together, so stuff like case/mobo isn't well thought out. I grabbed that case because it was the only one with a built in psu that felt big enough, and because it was cheap. I guess I'll try looking at an alterate build with an Intel CPU/mobo then.

2007-07-06 15:35:28

#6

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6914|Stealth City, UK

Mr_Fofo wrote:
I spent about 15 mins last night getting these components together, so stuff like case/mobo isn't well thought out. I grabbed that case because it was the only one with a built in psu that felt big enough, and because it was cheap. I guess I'll try looking at an alterate build with an Intel CPU/mobo then.

I din't realise it had a PSU, definetly don't go for it. Pretty much all cases with PSU's installed are shite. Get a decent 600watt for your system. Have a look at Leetkyle's little guide on the different components. That will tell you all you need to know.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=77096

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-06 15:36:03)

2007-07-06 15:37:15

#7

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

Ok, thanks. 2 quick questions though: are the stock CPU/GPU fans fine? Is that sound card ok?

2007-07-06 15:40:00

#8

trex1210: I am Canadian; +72|6730|B.C. Canada

im thinking about building myself a rig aswell. I am from canada so is that site reliable? If so I might check it out. This is what I am looking at doing

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115003

EVGA 122-CK-NF63-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813188019

OCZ S.O.E 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820227120

BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOCE GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 OC HDCP Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814143080

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811133021

2007-07-06 15:44:12

#9

Jbrar: rawr; +86|7013|Winterpeg, Canada

That ram's not the best for oc'ing trex. Almost bought it myself before snaggina great deal on 2 gigs of OCZ platinum.

2007-07-06 15:47:56

#10

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6914|Stealth City, UK

Jbrar wrote:
That ram's not the best for oc'ing trex. Almost bought it myself before snaggina great deal on 2 gigs of OCZ platinum.

Yeah, timings don't seem too good for a 6400, try for CAS4.

If you're not looking at OC'ing then the stock cooler is fine.

On the sound front, if you're an audiophile and have a decent set of 5.1 speakers then you might consider a soundcard. Integrated audio has improved a lot over the years, and is pretty acceptable now.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-06 15:49:51)

2007-07-06 16:02:11

#11

trex1210: I am Canadian; +72|6730|B.C. Canada

ya i heard about the 6400. But besides that well my setup work. Oh and is the case any good. I havent actually looked into it. I heard that getting a new PSU would be good. but I dont know. What do you guys think. I was also thinking about getting a sound card but for now I just want to build a decent rig and worry about the sound later.

2007-07-06 16:05:32

#12

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6914|Stealth City, UK

trex1210 wrote:
ya i heard about the 6400. But besides that well my setup work. Oh and is the case any good. I havent actually looked into it. I heard that getting a new PSU would be good. but I dont know. What do you guys think. I was also thinking about getting a sound card but for now I just want to build a decent rig and worry about the sound later.

I can't reccommend what you've currently got, but it'll work.

Definetly get a case without a PSU and get a seperate one.

2007-07-06 16:10:47

#13

trex1210: I am Canadian; +72|6730|B.C. Canada

well I am a budget of about $1500. So this seems like a good rig to build for that price. But im not to sure. Could you maybe recommend a good case and PSU. Cause I have no idea of what to get.

2007-07-06 16:11:45

#14

buLLet_t00th: Mr. Boombastic; +178|6914|Stealth City, UK

I've got pretty confused here......I thought I was talking to the OP.

Your Rig is fine mate, looks good.

That case is pretty good aswell.

I'll have a look for a PSU now.

As it looks like you might want SLi in the future you could get a more powerful one, but this should be fine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817189011 (Its based around the Thermaltake Toughpower series, I think they stole the design!)

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-07-06 16:18:38)

2007-07-06 16:32:07

#15

Marinejuana: local; +415|7056|Seattle

ya i hear the c2d is what you want for gaming these days. and while ive heard that ncix is a good site, their prices have always been higher than newegg.com's when im shopping. just make sure youve compared. browse at www.anandtech.com and www.tomshardware.com to see different products compared.

2007-07-06 16:36:11

#16

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

Some new stuff.

Antec 900 Case

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21123

OCZ StealthxStream 600W PSU

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23934

C2D E6600

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19144

ASUS P5K Mobo

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=24495

8800GTX GPU

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21408

OCZ Gold DDR2 PC2-6400 2x1 GB

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18495

320GB SATA2 Harddrive

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? … re=Seagate

I still have no idea what optical drive I should get, it's pretty confusing to look at for some reason.

BTW, all that stuff added up to 1550$.

Last edited by Mr_Fofo (2007-07-06 16:38:19)

2007-07-06 17:31:05

#17

trex1210: I am Canadian; +72|6730|B.C. Canada

Sorry fofo I dont mean to take over your Topic but I just have one more question. Should I be getting a new hard drive and optical drive.

2007-07-06 19:28:13

#18

Mr_Fofo: Member; +1|6611|Canada

To Trex:

I've heard alot of good things about NCIX from other people I know, it sounds very reliable. You probably don't need a new optical drive, but for hard drive it depends if it is IDE or SATA.

2007-07-06 20:59:52

#19

lxcpikiman: imbad @ bf2; +70|7067|Toronto-Canada

i have those components in another website with $100 cdn less, before taxes
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowHome

2007-07-06 22:26:54

#20

_j5689_: Dreads & Bergers; +364|7188|Riva, MD

You should definitely get another gig of RAM, it really helps in speed.

Your 2nd priority should be getting a C2D processor after July 22 when the price drops instead of a shitty Pentium 4 like I still have.

2007-07-07 01:16:41

#21

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6707|United Kingdom

same

but if the mobo's current P4 is socket 775 can't i get a C2D?

2007-07-07 03:41:07

#22

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6965|N. Ireland

mitch212k_2 wrote:
same

but if the mobo's current P4 is socket 775 can't i get a C2D?

What motherboard is it? Some just require a BIOS flash to support Core 2 Duo.

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