No prob... good luck...
So, you're saying the Muslims essentially made the first move.Kmarion wrote:
By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.Turquoise wrote:
Well yeah, but again, the Crusades were a long time ago, so I don't see how that relates to modern Muslims.Kmarion wrote:
Crusades?
I agree... but still... Bin Laden seemed like a reasonable guy when he was fighting the Russians...Turquoise wrote:
True... I see similarities there, but I think it's better to be on the safe side and kill groups like Al Quida. At least Muqtada can be reasoned with.
Pay no attention, I just had to get it out of my system
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LOL... yeah... we fucked that up... We should have just left Afghanistan the hell alone back then.oug wrote:
I agree... but still... Bin Laden seemed like a reasonable guy when he was fighting the Russians...Turquoise wrote:
True... I see similarities there, but I think it's better to be on the safe side and kill groups like Al Quida. At least Muqtada can be reasoned with.
Pay no attention, I just had to get it out of my system
The Crusades began in 1095. 400 hundred years earlier Muslim armies had already attacked Constantinople, Spain, France, Rome, and Egypt. In 652 Muslims began waging war against Sicilians and occupied them for over 200 years (Castrogiovanni Massacre). Of course both sides justified killing in the name of religion. The Siege of Jerusalem was just sick.Turquoise wrote:
So, you're saying the Muslims essentially made the first move.Kmarion wrote:
By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.Turquoise wrote:
Well yeah, but again, the Crusades were a long time ago, so I don't see how that relates to modern Muslims.
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Of course you could take the conflict even further back, when there was no religion issue as such and things would be much less the same.
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Good points...Kmarion wrote:
The Crusades began in 1095. 400 hundred years earlier Muslim armies had already attacked Constantinople, Spain, France, Rome, and Egypt. In 652 Muslims began waging war against Sicilians and occupied them for over 200 years (Castrogiovanni Massacre). Of course both sides justified killing in the name of religion. The Siege of Jerusalem was just sick.Turquoise wrote:
So, you're saying the Muslims essentially made the first move.Kmarion wrote:
By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.
Didn't you guys lose the Kargil War, wasn't that the period in time where the world realised that Pakistan used militants/extremists to mess things up in Indian Kashmir.CDK3Y wrote:
Well Musharraf, he did some good for Pak, and he did some bad, mostly bad, he is a dictator, but because of him, our previous corrupt govt. has fallen. the govt. backed MQM had riots in Karachi and killed a whole bunch of ppl..since then I dislike him. I like him some way, because he led us in the Kargil war of 1999 and we achived some successTurquoise wrote:
*nods* Well, I hope you haven't taken anything I've said about Pakistan personally, but I really fear for what may happen if Musharraf falls.CDK3Y wrote:
well im not Saudi, im Paki...but yea...we'd propably be burning flags by now and chanting slogans...
What's your take on it?
Wasn't it (like all the other wars) started by Pakistan.
If anything, for you guys, it was a total disaster.