KEN-JENNINGS
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The United States ranked 96th on the Global Peace Index, ONE spot above Iran and 23 spots above Israel.

The GPI is measured with a weighted score of 60% on internal violence and 40% on external violence.  The indicators can be found here.  One indicator I found especially appalling is our prison population - currently housing 25% of the total prison population of the world.  Other factors such as ease of access to firearms lowered the US score dramatically.

Do you think this can be used as an accurate assessment?  Is there any validity?  Is this reason to observe both domestic and international policy objectives and possibly seek new policy initiatives?

On a somewhat related note, the FY 2008 State Foreign Operations Appropriations Bill was sent to Senate recently, and this bill looks somewhat promising...at least in comparison to the majority of the rubbish Congress enacts. 

  • +$6 billion earmarked for global health
  • a proviso severely limiting the sale and transfer of cluster bombs
  • +$5 billion for worldwide HIV/AIDS initiatives
  • almost $1 billion earmarked for Sudan, including $200 million for humanitarian/peacekeeping efforts
  • A huge step in sexual education policy beyond our borders through a change in policy allowing funding for the purchase of contraceptives by NGOs (non governmental organizations).
 

Furthermore, the bill actually decreases the amount of foreign military aid, which I support 100%.  Unfortunately, Congress still feels a need to provide +$500 million to burn arable land in Columbia.  Can't win them all.

Link to bill

Discuss.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-07-16 14:48:47)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6735|Éire

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

The United States ranked 96th on the Global Peace Index, ONE spot above Iran and 23 spots above Israel.

The GPI is measured with a weighted score of 60% on internal violence and 40% on external violence.  The indicators can be found here.  One indicator I found especially appalling is our prison population - currently housing 25% of the total prison population of the world.  Other factors such as ease of access to firearms lowered the US score dramatically.

Do you think this can be used as an accurate assessment?  Is there any validity?  Is this reason to observe both domestic and international policy objectives and possibly seek new policy initiatives?

On a somewhat related note, the FY 2008 State Foreign Operations Appropriations Bill was sent to Senate recently, and this bill looks somewhat promising...at least in comparison to the majority of the rubbish Congress enacts.  Provisions include - +$6 billion earmarked for global health; a proviso severely limiting the sale and transfer of cluster bombs; +$5 billion for worldwide HIV/AIDS initiatives; almost $1 billion earmarked for Sudan, including $200 million for humanitarian/peacekeeping efforts; A huge step in sexual education policy beyond our borders through a change in policy allowing the purchase of contraceptives by NGOs (non governmental organizations).  Furthermore, the bill actually decreases the amount of foreign military aid, which I support 100%.  Unfortunately, Congress still feels a need to provide +$500 million to burn arable land in Columbia.  Can't win them all.

Link to bill

Discuss.
Congratulations America on making it into the top 100, just about.
m3thod
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+2,197|7116|UK
Just goes to show the Scandinavian countries have got their shit together. GJ.

But i'll think i will emigrate to Oz.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-07-16 14:28:57)

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KEN-JENNINGS
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m3thod wrote:

Just goes to show the Scandinavian countries have got their shit together. GJ.
You didn't notice New Zealand at #2?  You Kiwis should feel proud.  I guess having a country full of sheep IS beneficial sometimes...

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-07-16 14:44:23)

Braddock
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Ireland in 4th ...slam dunk!
golgoj4
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The question (or one of many @ least) is how much of that bill will make it through congress untouched. Its a good start but theres a lot more to be done. As far as the prison population, I wonder what percentage are non-violent drug offenses?
m3thod
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+2,197|7116|UK

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Just goes to show the Scandinavian countries have got their shit together. GJ.
You didn't notice New Zealand at #2?  You Maoris should feel proud.  I guess having a country full of sheep IS beneficial sometimes...
Yeah, but i was looking at the top 20 tbh.

Oz is warmer than NZ!
edit

Correct slang term for NZ'ders is All Blacks or Kiwis.  Maori are the indigenous people.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-07-16 14:40:58)

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usmarine
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m3thod wrote:

Oz is warmer than NZ!
Eh?

Never knew that.
m3thod
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usmarine2005 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Oz is warmer than NZ!
Eh?

Never knew that.
Has a more milder climate prob due to all the mountains and ocean currents.

Auckland climate, historical averages.

Temperature, celsius     Jan     Feb     Mar     Apr     May     Jun     Jul     Aug     Sep     Oct     Nov     Dec
Previous Averages     19.4     19.7     18.7     16.2     13.3     11.2     10.4     11.3     12.6     14.2     15.9     17.8

Source: http://www.climate.co.nz/
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IG-Calibre
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Ireland  0 Number of paramilitary personnel per 100,000 people

AYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! most of Continuity IRA are in residence  around the border region, 0 paramilitary personnel in the republic? your oul fucking hole..
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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m3thod wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Just goes to show the Scandinavian countries have got their shit together. GJ.
You didn't notice New Zealand at #2?  You Maoris should feel proud.  I guess having a country full of sheep IS beneficial sometimes...
Yeah, but i was looking at the top 20 tbh.

Oz is warmer than NZ!
edit

Correct slang term for NZ'ders is All Blacks or Kiwis.  Maori are the indigenous people.
Yeah, I knew that, brain lapse.  I'll upload some video of me performing a Haka in Western Samoa one of these days...
CloakedStarship
Member
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Other factors such as ease of access to firearms lowered the US score dramatically.
Funny thing, thats part of our constitutional rights.  Access to firearms shouldn't be that hard to get in a country where its your right to own one
Spark
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usmarine2005 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Oz is warmer than NZ!
Eh?

Never knew that.
"I love a sunburnt country"...

It gets fucking hot in summer. Bushfires equal or worse than those in California year-in-year-out.

And damned cold in winter (if you're in Canberra. Nice and warm today, 10 degrees.)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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LT.Victim
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Canada's sitting @ number 8, not bad..
Magius5.0
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LT.Victim wrote:

Canada's sitting @ number 8, not bad..
Dude, no one cares about Canada, you know why?  Because they aren't a threat to anyone, and furthermore, they're very enjoyable to get along with.  Although my buddy Jay is quite nutty, and he's from Canada (originally)...huh, must be an isolated case (snickers).
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Magius5.0 wrote:

LT.Victim wrote:

Canada's sitting @ number 8, not bad..
Dude, no one cares about Canada, you know why?  Because they aren't a threat to anyone, and furthermore, they're very enjoyable to get along with.  Although my buddy Jay is quite nutty, and he's from Canada (originally)...huh, must be an isolated case (snickers).
Canada gave us Hockey, Lumberjacks and FPS_Doug. The world is indebted to them.
G3|Genius
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Other factors such as ease of access to firearms lowered the US score dramatically.
why does firearms automatically convert to violence?  My family owns lots of firearms because we hunt.  I assure you i have never shot anyone.  I've never shot an animal either.  The squirrels around my house are all lucky bastards.  So was that pheasant.

regardless, NO.  This is not an accurate assessment.  It's faulty logic.  The attitude that the ease to obtain firearms means less peace is the same attitude that caused the robots to revolt in I, Robot.

Until they take into account the freedoms of the peoples within the country, it will not be an accurate depiction.  Without that, you could have an Orwellian society, and still score well on the peace charts.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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G3|Genius wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Other factors such as ease of access to firearms lowered the US score dramatically.
why does firearms automatically convert to violence?  My family owns lots of firearms because we hunt.  I assure you i have never shot anyone.  I've never shot an animal either.  The squirrels around my house are all lucky bastards.  So was that pheasant.

regardless, NO.  This is not an accurate assessment.  It's faulty logic.  The attitude that the ease to obtain firearms means less peace is the same attitude that caused the robots to revolt in I, Robot.

Until they take into account the freedoms of the peoples within the country, it will not be an accurate depiction.  Without that, you could have an Orwellian society, and still score well on the peace charts.
http://www.visionofhumanity.com/indicat … uction.php

A qualitative assessment of the accessibility of small arms and light weapons (SALW), ranked 1-5 (very low–very high) by EIU analysts. Very limited access is scored if the country has developed policy instruments and best practices, such as firearm licences, strengthening of export controls, codes of conduct, firearms or ammunition marking. Very easy access, on the contrary, is characterized by the lack of regulation of civilian possession, ownership, storage, carriage and use of firearms.
The US ranked a '3' according to the Economist Intelligence Unit

The US probably gets negative points for a lack of real working gun laws.  I agree with that.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-07-17 11:41:59)

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