What about Protego Horribilis or Protego Totalum...Kommander_Kale wrote:
Protego (said in head to reduce time) /fail
No, they take too long to think/say. Not only are they longer incantations, they are more difficult and therefore require more mind power.mcminty wrote:
What about Protego Horribilis or Protego Totalum...Kommander_Kale wrote:
Protego (said in head to reduce time) /fail
I agree entierly with morbidMorbiD.ShoT wrote:
I thought that the novel was very well written for a "Children's Book". I definitely thought that it was the best of the series, for it pinned the world against Harry, Hermione and Ron; except for the small resistance they had at their disposal. The beginning was very good, contained lots of action and expanded the plot greatly.
The middle was THE SINGLE MOST BORING PART OF ANY OF THE SERIES! Immediately after Ron left Hermione and Harry by themselves to camp around in the woods was incredibly dull, slow and unimportant. The most exciting thing that happened was when Griphook and the others came close to Harry and Hermione's tent and Harry used extendable ears to listen to them. This uneventful part of the story lasted almost 150 pages and GOD was it boring.
The ending was amazing. The battle/plot twists that Rowling laid really kept me wanting to keep reading until I finished it. I loved the end.
Epilogue - Excited me only because they all banged the shit out of each other and had lots of kids, other than that it seemed arbitrary and unimportant.
It was a lot like the others:
intro - buildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildup - HOMAGAWDHUGEFIGHt - EndEndEndEndEnd
I thought the last chapter was pretty bad, way over the top with "Albus Severus Potter" or something.
The plot twist was brilliant though, and if it hadn't felt that tiny bit rushed, it would have been perfect
-konfusion
intro - buildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildupbuildup - HOMAGAWDHUGEFIGHt - EndEndEndEndEnd
I thought the last chapter was pretty bad, way over the top with "Albus Severus Potter" or something.
The plot twist was brilliant though, and if it hadn't felt that tiny bit rushed, it would have been perfect
-konfusion
Never read one, but I had to drop my girlfriend off the other day at the Best Buy parking lot at midnight (long story) and the whole fucking mini-mall parking lot was full of people. I mean chock ass full. Old Navy, Office Depot, Best Buy, Michael's and Books a Million all loaded with cars. Turns out there were something like a few thousand people waiting for this fucking book at midnight. I wouldn't have waited in a line like that to see Elvis back from the dead.
So anyway, what happened? I saw one of the movies on HBO. Did the chick ever get tits?
So anyway, what happened? I saw one of the movies on HBO. Did the chick ever get tits?
I thought it was an amazing book, a bit predictable though, the R.A.B thing i had already figured out...
I have always thought that they could just set up a couple of snipers to take 'em down though...
You wouldn't see them and have no time to react...
I have always thought that they could just set up a couple of snipers to take 'em down though...
You wouldn't see them and have no time to react...
Was Harry the master of death though?Winston_Churchill wrote:
Voldemort used Harry's blood to make his body in GoF which made a bond between them (A gleam of triumph was seen in Dumbledore's eye when he heard Harry's blood was used to revive Voldemort). This bond made it so that Voldemort could not kill Harry. Also, Harry was the true owner of the Elder wand since Draco defeated Dumbledore and Harry defeated Draco, and therefore the wand would not work against its true owner (this is why the Cruciatus curse didn't hurt Harry). When Avada Kedarva was used on Harry by Voldemort it killed the Horcrux inside Harry that was placed there when Voldemort tried to kill Harry. Harry, being the master of Death by having the three Deathly Hallows had the choice to return to life or "go on" and die. He chose to return and ended up using the Elder Wand to reflect Voldemort's spell against him, killing him.d4rkst4r wrote:
someone explain what happened to harry after he died, i was confused at to where they were and such.
Edit: And btw, I thought it was an awesome book. The beginning and end were fantastic and the middle was necessary to close all the loose ends of the series.
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
Harry was related to the guy who forged the elder wand , thats how he got possession of the invisibilty cloakBertster7 wrote:
Was Harry the master of death though?Winston_Churchill wrote:
Voldemort used Harry's blood to make his body in GoF which made a bond between them (A gleam of triumph was seen in Dumbledore's eye when he heard Harry's blood was used to revive Voldemort). This bond made it so that Voldemort could not kill Harry. Also, Harry was the true owner of the Elder wand since Draco defeated Dumbledore and Harry defeated Draco, and therefore the wand would not work against its true owner (this is why the Cruciatus curse didn't hurt Harry). When Avada Kedarva was used on Harry by Voldemort it killed the Horcrux inside Harry that was placed there when Voldemort tried to kill Harry. Harry, being the master of Death by having the three Deathly Hallows had the choice to return to life or "go on" and die. He chose to return and ended up using the Elder Wand to reflect Voldemort's spell against him, killing him.d4rkst4r wrote:
someone explain what happened to harry after he died, i was confused at to where they were and such.
Edit: And btw, I thought it was an awesome book. The beginning and end were fantastic and the middle was necessary to close all the loose ends of the series.
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
i thought it was ok, i could of predicted what happened before hand it was all abit obvious. I think she was doing abit of an Alex rider esc thing with him coming back to life, it was all abit to convenient lol
No one forged the Elder wand (as far as we know).Kurazoo wrote:
Harry was related to the guy who forged the elder wand , thats how he got possession of the invisibilty cloakBertster7 wrote:
Was Harry the master of death though?Winston_Churchill wrote:
Voldemort used Harry's blood to make his body in GoF which made a bond between them (A gleam of triumph was seen in Dumbledore's eye when he heard Harry's blood was used to revive Voldemort). This bond made it so that Voldemort could not kill Harry. Also, Harry was the true owner of the Elder wand since Draco defeated Dumbledore and Harry defeated Draco, and therefore the wand would not work against its true owner (this is why the Cruciatus curse didn't hurt Harry). When Avada Kedarva was used on Harry by Voldemort it killed the Horcrux inside Harry that was placed there when Voldemort tried to kill Harry. Harry, being the master of Death by having the three Deathly Hallows had the choice to return to life or "go on" and die. He chose to return and ended up using the Elder Wand to reflect Voldemort's spell against him, killing him.
Edit: And btw, I thought it was an awesome book. The beginning and end were fantastic and the middle was necessary to close all the loose ends of the series.
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
Harry was related to the 3rd brother who died in Godric's Hollow, he inherited the invisibility cloak from him.
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No i don't believe he was. Voldy had the elder wand. Dumbledore in his head was talking about how he had the choice to go on living because he went willing and embraced death that he wasn't destroyed when Voldy knocked them both out. Voldy killed the part of his own soul instead of harry. As far-fetched as the seance in his head bit was (even by harry potter standards) i don't think we're supposed to believe that death actually made the three items. They were just three powerful magical artefacts, the tale of the deathly hallows was just that, a tale.Bertster7 wrote:
Was Harry the master of death though?Winston_Churchill wrote:
blahd4rkst4r wrote:
someone explain what happened to harry after he died, i was confused at to where they were and such.
Edit: And btw, I thought it was an awesome book. The beginning and end were fantastic and the middle was necessary to close all the loose ends of the series.
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
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Exactly what I had thought.Kommander_Kale wrote:
No i don't believe he was. Voldy had the elder wand. Dumbledore in his head was talking about how he had the choice to go on living because he went willing and embraced death that he wasn't destroyed when Voldy knocked them both out. Voldy killed the part of his own soul instead of harry. As far-fetched as the in his head bit was (even by harry potter standards) i don't think we're supposed to believe that death actually made the three items. They were just three powerful magical artefacts, the tale of the deathly hallows was just that, a tale.Bertster7 wrote:
Was Harry the master of death though?Winston_Churchill wrote:
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Edit: And btw, I thought it was an awesome book. The beginning and end were fantastic and the middle was necessary to close all the loose ends of the series.
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
I disliked the version of snape she churned out though. You could soooooooooo tell he was going to be good. The only way you could twist is to say that snape was neither good nor evil in either of the ways presented to us by the end of book 6. I would have liked to see a selfish snape revealed that in the end went to the highest bidder. He sensed the downfall of voldy the first time round and switched, and thought voldy was going to win the second time round. Just too predictable the whole 'i'd always loved harry' scene.
I agree.Kommander_Kale wrote:
I disliked the version of snape she churned out though. You could soooooooooo tell he was going to be good. The only way you could twist is to say that snape was neither good nor evil in either of the ways presented to us by the end of book 6. I would have liked to see a selfish snape revealed that in the end went to the highest bidder. He sensed the downfall of voldy the first time round and switched, and thought voldy was going to win the second time round. Just too predictable the whole 'i'd always loved harry' scene.
I was shocked when Snape killed Dumbledore - but soon guessed there was probably some reason for it. It just didn't feel like he was going to be a bad guy.
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You mean Voldemort killed Snape...Bertster7 wrote:
I agree.Kommander_Kale wrote:
I disliked the version of snape she churned out though. You could soooooooooo tell he was going to be good. The only way you could twist is to say that snape was neither good nor evil in either of the ways presented to us by the end of book 6. I would have liked to see a selfish snape revealed that in the end went to the highest bidder. He sensed the downfall of voldy the first time round and switched, and thought voldy was going to win the second time round. Just too predictable the whole 'i'd always loved harry' scene.
I was shocked when Snape killed Voldemort - but soon guessed there was probably some reason for it. It just didn't feel like he was going to be a bad guy.
And Harry had the Resurrection Stone with him, he had the cloak with him and he was "killed" by the Elder Wand, making all three Deathly Hallows present for his "death".Bertster7 wrote:
Exactly what I had thought.Kommander_Kale wrote:
No i don't believe he was. Voldy had the elder wand. Dumbledore in his head was talking about how he had the choice to go on living because he went willing and embraced death that he wasn't destroyed when Voldy knocked them both out. Voldy killed the part of his own soul instead of harry. As far-fetched as the in his head bit was (even by harry potter standards) i don't think we're supposed to believe that death actually made the three items. They were just three powerful magical artefacts, the tale of the deathly hallows was just that, a tale.Bertster7 wrote:
Was Harry the master of death though?
I had assumed he wasn't and simply returned to life because Voldemort could not hurt him with the Elder wand and only killed a part of himself. Harry was only in posession of one of the Hallows when he was 'killed' and had already done something similar without any of them.
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D'oh!Winston_Churchill wrote:
You mean Voldemort killed Snape...Bertster7 wrote:
I agree.Kommander_Kale wrote:
I disliked the version of snape she churned out though. You could soooooooooo tell he was going to be good. The only way you could twist is to say that snape was neither good nor evil in either of the ways presented to us by the end of book 6. I would have liked to see a selfish snape revealed that in the end went to the highest bidder. He sensed the downfall of voldy the first time round and switched, and thought voldy was going to win the second time round. Just too predictable the whole 'i'd always loved harry' scene.
I was shocked when Snape killed Voldemort - but soon guessed there was probably some reason for it. It just didn't feel like he was going to be a bad guy.
And Harry had the Resurrection Stone with him, he had the cloak with him and he was "killed" by the Elder Wand, making all three Deathly Hallows present for his "death".
No, I meant when Snape kills Dumbledore, actually.
He'd dropped the stone on the floor. He had the cloak though and whilst I don't think your point about the wand is valid, I do think him being the rightful owner could be relevant.
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Started strong, ended weak.krazed wrote:
it felt rushed
There he says that Harry is the Master of DeathDumbledore Said to Harry wrote:
You are the true master of death, because the true master does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die, and understands that there are far, far worse things in the living world than dying.
I think those of whom are disappointed with the epilogue need to realize that was written wayyyy before the 7th book. She wanted it to end that way from the start.
Although now I am reading the 1st one again and it's like a whole new book.
Although now I am reading the 1st one again and it's like a whole new book.
He also tells him he isn't dead.Winston_Churchill wrote:
There he says that Harry is the Master of DeathDumbledore Said to Harry wrote:
You are the true master of death, because the true master does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die, and understands that there are far, far worse things in the living world than dying.
So he doesn't need to come back to life, because he hasn't been killed.
Actually she changed it a couple of months ago. She said there were two characters that were originally supposed to be killed off and she ended up keeping them alive (likely at least one of Ron, Harry, Hermione). She also said that some characters that originally were supposed to live were killed off at the end (probably Fred, Lupin, Tonks).topthrill05 wrote:
I think those of whom are disappointed with the epilogue need to realize that was written wayyyy before the 7th book. She wanted it to end that way from the start.
Although now I am reading the 1st one again and it's like a whole new book.
Did anyone else think the big death was going to be Hermione when she was being tortured by Bellatrix. I thought she was going to die and be the big shocker for the novel...
Of course - he is the Master of Death so he cannot die, he has control over his death.Bertster7 wrote:
He also tells him he isn't dead.Winston_Churchill wrote:
There he says that Harry is the Master of DeathDumbledore Said to Harry wrote:
You are the true master of death, because the true master does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die, and understands that there are far, far worse things in the living world than dying.
So he doesn't need to come back to life, because he hasn't been killed.
abit rushed but other wise a good book, darker than the others but i liked that about it, doesn't quite measure up to the awesomeness of some other authors but thats partly because this is primarily a childrens book (so the "effing" "arse" "bitch" and "bastard" was a bit surprising for a book in the same series as the philosophers stone, but i suppose the audience is now more universal.
think that someone should of just brought in an apache though as i doubt even voldermort could stop a round from the guns of that nor could he stop a hellfire missile me thinks.
think that someone should of just brought in an apache though as i doubt even voldermort could stop a round from the guns of that nor could he stop a hellfire missile me thinks.
No the epilogue was not changed from my knowledge, just the final chapters. Indeed she did change the ending but none of that had an effect on the epilogue. In reality I don't think she ever intended on killing off the Trio just many around it.
Yepp.... to short 4 being the last bookGooners wrote:
You know what... I thought that too. She (JK Rowling) could have made the book longer, but never the less it was all in all an intriguing novelkrazed wrote:
it felt rushed