They made a mistake. A very bad mistake. This is a slip of responsibility, and I don't think it deserves capital punishment. I even think 12 years is a bit harsh, as it wasn't intended.
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NO you are not answering my question, tell me how in the hell what these kids went through is NOT torture, you NEGLECT feeding the damn dog, You NEGLECT paying the mortgage, You NEGLECT cutting the damn grass. What these two did to these kids is not NEGLECT. That is too benign a word to use what these to did to their kids.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Get your quotes right. I didn't mention torture at all. Im asking the question.lowing wrote:
In that context, first answer my question, why can you not replace child abuse with child torture? Tell me the difference. YOU guys are the ones that loathe torture yet imply that child abuse is different and locking these people away for life is too harsh.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
In that context, hypthetically, let's say evidence proved Bush was guilty of war crimes. Hypothetically now. He should then be executed for the loss of lives in Iraq?
I have no problem torturing terrorists for info, never have, so to me they are different topics. YOU guys think torture is torture and it is wrong and should be punished harshly, that is, apparently except torturing a child. In that case 12 years max is almost too harsh. Now, I am asking why?
12 years in this situation suits the crime I believe. There was no loss of life and the children will be fine, so a life sentence would be too harsh. <---that is just my opinion. Its your opinion that it was torture. By law, it was neglect.
In your opinion what should Scooter Libby's punishment be for perjury?
Bu
Stop trying to derail this topic by comparing apples and oranges. These people are not rich, famous, politicians, public figures who have connections and can buy their justice. If you want to start a thread addressing such issues be my guest and I will post there. and in the negative.
I mentioned torture of terrorists for the very reason I said, you guys are disgusted by it and want heads to roll for it, well why do you not want heads to roll for the torture of these kids? Or at least tell me the damn difference, because I think child torture is worse..
No death penalty needed for playing D&D, it already comes with a chastity penalty.DesertFox- wrote:
They played D&D, that's earns a death penalty right there.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Your saying these two people should get life in prison?lowing wrote:
IMO, child abuse is attempted murder and should carry life. In general, start actually punishing criminals for their actions.
I'M comparing apples and oranges? Good luck with your debate.lowing wrote:
NO you are not answering my question, tell me how in the hell what these kids went through is NOT torture, you NEGLECT feeding the damn dog, You NEGLECT paying the mortgage, You NEGLECT cutting the damn grass. What these two did to these kids is not NEGLECT. That is too benign a word to use what these to did to their kids.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Get your quotes right. I didn't mention torture at all. Im asking the question.lowing wrote:
In that context, first answer my question, why can you not replace child abuse with child torture? Tell me the difference. YOU guys are the ones that loathe torture yet imply that child abuse is different and locking these people away for life is too harsh.
I have no problem torturing terrorists for info, never have, so to me they are different topics. YOU guys think torture is torture and it is wrong and should be punished harshly, that is, apparently except torturing a child. In that case 12 years max is almost too harsh. Now, I am asking why?
12 years in this situation suits the crime I believe. There was no loss of life and the children will be fine, so a life sentence would be too harsh. <---that is just my opinion. Its your opinion that it was torture. By law, it was neglect.
In your opinion what should Scooter Libby's punishment be for perjury?
Bu
Stop trying to derail this topic by comparing apples and oranges. These people are not rich, famous, politicians, public figures who have connections and can buy their justice. If you want to start a thread addressing such issues be my guest and I will post there. and in the negative.
I mentioned torture of terrorists for the very reason I said, you guys are disgusted by it and want heads to roll for it, well why do you not want heads to roll for the torture of these kids? Or at least tell me the damn difference, because I think child torture is worse..
Mistake?....A SLIP??.......UNINTENDED???.........They tortured little babies konfusion and on purpose, not once, but as part of their daily activites. It warrants a little more than being labled as a "mistake"konfusion wrote:
They made a mistake. A very bad mistake. This is a slip of responsibility, and I don't think it deserves capital punishment. I even think 12 years is a bit harsh, as it wasn't intended.
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What better way to avoid a question you can not answer than by running from the thread.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I'M comparing apples and oranges? Good luck with your debate.lowing wrote:
NO you are not answering my question, tell me how in the hell what these kids went through is NOT torture, you NEGLECT feeding the damn dog, You NEGLECT paying the mortgage, You NEGLECT cutting the damn grass. What these two did to these kids is not NEGLECT. That is too benign a word to use what these to did to their kids.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
Get your quotes right. I didn't mention torture at all. Im asking the question.
12 years in this situation suits the crime I believe. There was no loss of life and the children will be fine, so a life sentence would be too harsh. <---that is just my opinion. Its your opinion that it was torture. By law, it was neglect.
In your opinion what should Scooter Libby's punishment be for perjury?
Bu
Stop trying to derail this topic by comparing apples and oranges. These people are not rich, famous, politicians, public figures who have connections and can buy their justice. If you want to start a thread addressing such issues be my guest and I will post there. and in the negative.
I mentioned torture of terrorists for the very reason I said, you guys are disgusted by it and want heads to roll for it, well why do you not want heads to roll for the torture of these kids? Or at least tell me the damn difference, because I think child torture is worse..
See ya.
I am not talking about rehab here jonsimon, these people need to be punished. I find your excuse that, well, "no one died" so it ain't that bad, as repugnant as anything I have ever read from you. They did not "neglect an obligation that COULD cause phsical harm to others". They tortured their kids and DID cause physical harm to them.jonsimon wrote:
Lowing, NO ONE DIED. You are complaining that two people are not able to have more than 12 years of their life taken from them simply because they NEGLECTED AN OBLIGATION THAT COULD CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS. Lowing, you honestly underestimate the psychological damage a single year in prison could do to a person like that. You should really stop talking until you have experienced it.lowing wrote:
Typical, feel sorry for the criminal who spends 5 years in prison, while his victim spends eternity in the ground. Don't look now, jonsimon but that is exactly why it is called JAIL/PRISON and not a day at the beach. It is supposed to be hard.jonsimon wrote:
Lowing, you have no sense of how long jailtime is. Perhaps you should surrendur a year of your life to a pleasureless life of physical labor and poor accomodations. Come back and complain about sentences then.
It is so very apparent that you are not a father. Please make sure you stay that way.
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