Poll

What would happen in a war against Iran's standing military.

US Military would defeat them in a matter of weeks.40%40% - 47
US Military would defeat them in a matter of months.18%18% - 21
It will take a very long time.12%12% - 14
Iran will inflict major casualties, but US win.20%20% - 24
Iran defeats the military.4%4% - 5
Iran-loss however insurgents move to Iraq and do damage3%3% - 4
Total: 115
specops10-4
Member
+108|7185|In the hills
I have been watching videos from LiveLeak that display the power of the Iranian military, inspiring me to create this thread.  I do not want to put any of my own opinions up here to skew the poll.
topal63
. . .
+533|7160
US Military would defeat them in a matter of weeks.

But, if we decide to occupy - it would be another expensive long lasting mess.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6732|Éire
It depends, if you just wanted to bash them into next week the US would be very quick and successful with its superior air forces and battleships ...but if you tried to install your own puppet regime and sent ground troops in etc. it would be an unholy bloodbath of ridiculous proportions. The response from troops and civilians would be much fiercer than that of Iraq as most Iranians do not feel oppressed by their Government in the same way many Iraqis may have.
Magpie
international welder....Douchebag Dude, <3 ur mom
+257|6968|Milkystania, yurop
Lets just hope that it never happens....
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7086
please. conventional warfare? cmon now son....
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6961|Πάϊ
It would be a pyrrhic victory for the US. So much so in fact, that nobody in the right mind would dare call it that. But either ways this would never happen so...
ƒ³
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7162|California

Well, after Iran proves to itself that it doesn't have any nukes, they are done for.

The first thing to go is the Republican Guard Navy, seeing as US warships almost rub up against them on a daily basis.


Followed by a torrent of critical target eliminations from the air.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7086

oug wrote:

It would be a pyrrhic victory for the US. So much so in fact, that nobody in the right mind would dare call it that. But either ways this would never happen so...
keep in mind, actual war with Iran will not be followed by an occupation. Itll be  Armies vs Armies.  Human Wave vs Precision, technology and training.  They might put up a bigger fight than the Iraqi army did, but insurgency will not be a problem to deal with.
howler_27
Member
+90|7129
Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6786|New York

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Especially if Isreal joins the conflict.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7086

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
other arabs, really?

Ill bet you a shiny nickel that the majority of Arab states would rather see the Unites States and Iran kill each other

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-07-26 12:06:23)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7072|Washington, DC

War with Iran? This is madness!

Madness? THIS, IS, THE WAR ON TERRORISM!!!!!!
specops10-4
Member
+108|7185|In the hills

oug wrote:

It would be a pyrrhic victory for the US. So much so in fact, that nobody in the right mind would dare call it that. But either ways this would never happen so...
If we were not to occupy, I believe we defeat the Iranian army in a matter of weeks.  Our air superiority would decimate any of their defences and be completely unprotected. 

They would really have no chance, unless we moved in with ground forces.  The Iranian government has much more support than the Iraqi government had before we attacked.  They would begin to use guerrilla warfare, very similar to that used by the insurgency in Iraq, and it would be 10x stronger.

I really would hate a war with Iran because too many lives would needlessly be lost, and it would not accomplish anything for the greater good.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6992|CH/BR - in UK

Thinking along the lines of Iraq, Iran will inflict major casualties, but US win.

-konfusion
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6905|meh-land
we go into iran
we win
we leave/stay whatever

nothing changes, except possibly a less volatile government/situation

gg iran
Magpie
international welder....Douchebag Dude, <3 ur mom
+257|6968|Milkystania, yurop

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Since when did Iran become arabic? call an iranian a arab and see what happens
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6572|North Tonawanda, NY

Magpie wrote:

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Since when did Iran become arabic? call an iranian a arab and see what happens
You are right. They are "persians".
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7194|good old CA

Villain{NY} wrote:

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Especially if Isreal joins the conflict.
why in the world would israel not isreal, join iran? 
Isnt Israel and us a big ally and nato ally.  And arent they jewish?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6572|North Tonawanda, NY

Maj.Do wrote:

Villain{NY} wrote:

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Especially if Isreal joins the conflict.
why in the world would israel not isreal, join iran? 
Isnt Israel and us a big ally and nato ally.  And arent they jewish?
I think he meant that it would be closer to a world war if Israel joined in.
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7194|good old CA
As in Israel with US attacking iran?  yea thats true
specops10-4
Member
+108|7185|In the hills

Maj.Do wrote:

Villain{NY} wrote:

howler_27 wrote:

Also keep in mind that more than likely, other Arab states will see this as the final chance to join with a large player in the region to finally eliminate the US presence.  It could very well be the start of a full world conflict.  US troops streched thin, and a bunch of eager enemies waiting for the right time to strike.
Especially if Isreal joins the conflict.
why in the world would israel not isreal, join iran? 
Isnt Israel and us a big ally and nato ally.  And arent they jewish?
I don't think you really understood what he meant.  He meant that if Israel joined the conflict, Arab nations would help Iran defeat the US.

Lebanon and Syria would attack Israel directly, rather then help Iran.  I think that the help of Israel would be more of a benefit than a detriment.  They are a powerful nation, and would provide an extra bit of air superiority.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7063|London, England
This is just an ego boost topic. I'll comply. The US will win in weeks, it's obvious.

Though it shouldn't go in that country. Leave Iraq, let Iran take over (who the fuck cares). Go back to A-stan, bomb shit. Go to P-stan, bomb shit. Finish the fucking Taliban in that area, don't let them hide in Pakistan by running off to fight another war.

Even if Iran takes over Iraq, they're not exactly be best friends with AQ in Iraq. So who cares? Iraq won't be an AQ safehaven if there is an Iranian presence. Sure, it will be practically owned by Iran. But who the fuck cares? They're not gonna use nukes, because Tehran will be a smoking crater 1 minute later. Who will use nukes without fear, is AQ. We need to finish that group, and the Taliban, once and for all. Enough of this Middle East shit. The real problem is in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-07-26 14:12:04)

Maj.Do
Member
+85|7194|good old CA

specops10-4 wrote:

Maj.Do wrote:

Villain{NY} wrote:


Especially if Isreal joins the conflict.
why in the world would israel not isreal, join iran? 
Isnt Israel and us a big ally and nato ally.  And arent they jewish?
I don't think you really understood what he meant.  He meant that if Israel joined the conflict, Arab nations would help Iran defeat the US.

Lebanon and Syria would attack Israel directly, rather then help Iran.  I think that the help of Israel would be more of a benefit than a detriment.  They are a powerful nation, and would provide an extra bit of air superiority.
yea i jsut realized that, thanks though for explaining +1
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7132|Tampa Bay Florida
Didn't it take us 3 weeks to defeat Iraq?  Wouldn't it be months for Iran then?  Or did it take 3 weeks because we were deploying?

Either way, I think the Iranians would make the Iraq insurgency look like a stray kitten.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-07-26 19:32:33)

Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6770

Mekstizzle wrote:

This is just an ego boost topic. I'll comply. The US will win in weeks, it's obvious.

Though it shouldn't go in that country. Leave Iraq, let Iran take over (who the fuck cares). Go back to A-stan, bomb shit. Go to P-stan, bomb shit. Finish the fucking Taliban in that area, don't let them hide in Pakistan by running off to fight another war.

Even if Iran takes over Iraq, they're not exactly be best friends with AQ in Iraq. So who cares? Iraq won't be an AQ safehaven if there is an Iranian presence. Sure, it will be practically owned by Iran. But who the fuck cares? They're not gonna use nukes, because Tehran will be a smoking crater 1 minute later. Who will use nukes without fear, is AQ. We need to finish that group, and the Taliban, once and for all. Enough of this Middle East shit. The real problem is in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I just about agree with everything this man says.
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