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2007-07-26 15:02:56

prototype: Member; +52|6784

I have narrowed it down to three choices all of which are about the same price.

Please tell me which you would choose.
Keep in mind my main focus is gaming, BF2 and BF2142 in particular.
I want to run the game fluidly on the highest settings with no bottle necking.

Thank you for any replies.

SYSTEM ONE:

Power Supply ( 850 Watt -- NZXT PRC-850 Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )
Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600
(4x 2.4GHz/8MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent &
Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( Asus P5N-E SLI nForce® 650i SLI Chipset w/6-channel CODEC, Gb LAN,
S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 1024MB [512MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Mushkin Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

SYSTEM 1 = $1,037.80

SYSTEM 2:

Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Power Supply SLI Ready )
Processor ( AMD Athlon™64 X2 3800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent &
Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570-SLI MCP Chipset w/7.1 Sound,
Dual Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Mushkin Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8600GTS 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

SYSTEM 2 = $1,036.45

SYSTEM 3:

Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Power Supply SLI Ready )
Processor ( AMD Athlon™64 X2 3800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit
Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( MSI K9A Platinum AMD-Crossfire-580X Chipset w/7.1 Audio , Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid,
USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Mushkin Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

SYSTEM 3 = $1,050.70

Thank you again for any replies that may help my decision

Last edited by prototype (2007-07-26 15:11:48)

2007-07-26 15:21:45

Smithereener: Member; +138|6789|California

First one has the nicest processor, last one has the nicest video card. I'm pretty sure most people will tell you that the lower end 8series are shite. Soooo... Probably the last one. Plus, the first one only comes with 1G of RAM(although you can upgrade quite easily).

Anyway, if you can, get the first one and upgrade to a 8800(8500 is baaaaad.*sheep*) + 2G RAM(2G is pretty much the standard today). Then you're set.

Not saying the AMD CPU is bad, but in comparison to the Intel CPUs today...

Last edited by Smithereener (2007-07-26 15:29:43)

2007-07-26 15:26:48

r'Eeee: That's how I roll, BITCH!; +311|6921

Combine the CPU of the first one with the GPU of the third. And add 2GB of RAM. You are then sorted.

I wouldn't get anything lower than 8800GTS 320mb and I wouldn't get an AMD CPU!

I would go with 3 though!

Last edited by r'Eeee (2007-07-26 15:28:20)

2007-07-26 15:53:09

theknuck: It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!; +45|7085|balls

if your comfortable with a great cpu now and low end graphics get the first. if you want a descent cpu and great graphics now get the last. but either way, that card is overkill for any game right now. find a $200 gpu now and put the extra $100 towards an intel C2D processor and mobo. you buy that cpu and mobo then your gonna have to upgrade soon. and if you go the amd route, get an opteron like a 170. then oc the piss out of it.

that psu on the first build is waaaaaay overkill aswell. i use on board audio so i wouldn't buy a sound card. there is some more savings there. you could also save $100 and buy a 6600 intel dual core instead of the quad. with saving right there you could almost buy an 8800gts.

Last edited by theknuck (2007-07-26 16:07:33)

2007-07-26 17:25:54

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|7022|UK

if its for gaming you are really after an 8800, 86s just dont really suffice But, I wouldnt go for choice three because, well, its a bit of a low end CPU, paired to such a high end GPU

Can't you find one with a E6600 and an 8800GTS in that price range? I'm sure you will be able to

Martyn

2007-07-26 17:43:59

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|7010|Long Island, New York

The CPU's on the second two blow. The first one's vid card should be updated, especially if it's for gaming.

2007-07-26 17:45:39

prototype: Member; +52|6784

When I go the intel route with the 8800gts 640, I end up with a $1200 price tag.

Should I get system 2 instead, since it has a better mobo and then just buy a better GPU later?

If I choose system 3, what wont I be able to do? a dual amd 3800 should keep me well off for a while coupled with the 8800gts 640 and the 2 gigs of ram or no?

thank again for all your replies.

2007-07-26 17:47:10

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|7010|Long Island, New York

prototype wrote:
When I go the intel route with the 8800gts 640, I end up with a $1200 price tag.

Should I get system 2 instead, since it has a better mobo and then just buy a better GPU later?

If I choose system 3, what wont I be able to do? a dual amd 3800 should keep me well off for a while coupled with the 8800gts 640 and the 2 gigs of ram or no?

thank again for all your replies.

The CPU will bring your system down severely. 3800+'s are...very outdated. Get the first system, and update the video card and RAM.

2007-07-26 17:53:21

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|7022|UK

prototype wrote:
When I go the intel route with the 8800gts 640, I end up with a $1200 price tag.

Should I get system 2 instead, since it has a better mobo and then just buy a better GPU later?

If I choose system 3, what wont I be able to do? a dual amd 3800 should keep me well off for a while coupled with the 8800gts 640 and the 2 gigs of ram or no?

thank again for all your replies.

How about the 320mb 8800GTS? isnt there somewhere else you can buy? I wouldnt go near the 3800 now, too old, like has been said, it will bring the performance down. Where are you looking anyway, let us go have a look maybe

Martyn

2007-07-26 17:59:59

prototype: Member; +52|6784

I only have about 1100 to spend at most and would like to keep it near a grand.

I plan on buying from this place

www.ibuypower.com

Last edited by prototype (2007-07-26 18:20:46)

2007-07-26 18:18:21

prototype: Member; +52|6784

I built these, sacraficing my power supplies and ram which I figure I can upgrade later with little trouble

SYSTEM 4 :

Power Supply ( 600 Watt -- Power Supply SLI Ready )
Processor ( Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6750 (2x 2.66GHz/4MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( Asus P5N-E SLI nForce® 650i SLI Chipset w/6-channel CODEC, Gb LAN,
S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 512 MB [512MB X1] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

$1054.00

SYSTEM 5:

Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 (4x 2.4GHz/8MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( Asus P5N-E SLI nForce® 650i SLI Chipset w/6-channel CODEC,
Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 1024MB [512MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Mushkin Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 320MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

$1092.00

2007-07-26 18:22:37

theknuck: It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!; +45|7085|balls

prototype wrote:
www.ibuypower.com is where i plan on buying my system from

I only have about 1100 to spend at most and would like to keep it near a grand

Dude get the "Gamer EX" model. its your price range. then look at the specs and see if you can save or upgrade here and there. granted it has a 8600gts, but hey, that is plenty of card for any game right now. save later and then buy an 8800 series. like i said before, screw the sound card. i'd upgrade your hdd to the 320gb one too.

so if your going to stick with ibuypower.com and aren't willing to build your own (its easy and fun) then this looks like your best option.

and you definately need AT LEAST 1gb of ram. it is cheap and won't take you long to buy another gb off newegg or the likes. Personally i've been running 2gb for over a year. no way in hell i'd run less than that now! you will need the ram when the big games come out.

Last edited by theknuck (2007-07-26 18:24:56)

2007-07-26 18:51:32

prototype: Member; +52|6784

I have thought about building it myself but I dont know how to configure the bios.

What kind of system could I build with a grand if I bought all my gear from newegg?

2007-07-26 19:02:32

prototype: Member; +52|6784

I think I am gonna go with this one and just buy more memory with my next paycheck.

What do you guys think?

Case ( [$15 OFF Mail-In Rebate] Nzxt Apollo Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Blue )
Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 (4x 2.4GHz/8MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Thermaltake MaxOrb CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance )
Motherboard ( Asus P5N-E SLI nForce® 650i SLI Chipset w/6-channel CODEC, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 1024MB [512MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Mushkin Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 320MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === eVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 320 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Operation System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )

Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$1085.30

2007-07-26 19:06:49

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|7043|Portland, OR, USA

420W powersupply? erm no. go for a decent power supply. 512 x 2 ? no http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820220144 go for that. And wait for your next paycheck... you'll save money

K don't nevermind, I just read the rest of that post, don't buy that system. You can buy a better system of newegg for a grand.. and you don't have to configure the bios?

Last edited by CommieChipmunk (2007-07-26 19:07:04)

2007-07-26 19:13:43

Havok: Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist; +302|7148|Florida, United States

Proto, I suggest you wait another month or so until you have about $1500 to spend. You can get an mid-high range computer now, but you're just going to have to upgrade it in the future. Save yourself some/money and wait until you can get it all at once.

2007-07-26 20:00:33

prototype: Member; +52|6784

what changes should I make on that last system spec I posted?

2007-07-26 20:16:33

MajorHoulahan_MASH: Member; +31|7195

theknuck wrote:
and you definately need AT LEAST 1gb of ram. it is cheap and won't take you long to buy another gb off newegg or the likes. Personally i've been running 2gb for over a year. no way in hell i'd run less than that now! you will need the ram when the big games come out.

if you are into gaming like with BF2, 1 gb of RAM memory is a minimum, but 2 gb RAM is indeed recommended.

2007-07-26 21:35:04

Smithereener: Member; +138|6789|California

prototype wrote:
what changes should I make on that last system spec I posted?

RAM and PSU. I wouldn't trust the PSU that comes with a case, and you'll want at least 2G of RAM.

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