blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
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By now, everyone has heard how Microsoft plans to release the next Windows client OS, Windows 7, in 2010. But what the company is not making clear is what new features the OS will have, a topic that has become fodder for educated Windows 7 speculation.

Analysts said Microsoft probably is keeping tight-lipped about what Windows 7 will look like because at this point, company engineers and executives don't even know.

"They don't want to commit because they don't have a good idea what's in it," said Michael Silver, an analyst with Gartner. "We're three years out, so you can't really expect that much detail."

Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft, said that with so many people still in the midst of upgrading to the latest client OS, Windows Vista, he's hesitant to speculate on what might be in the next OS. "We barely know the features of the one we just got," he said with a laugh.

That said, Cherry is expecting less "earth-shattering" new features than improvements on some of the new ones found in Windows Vista, such as the Bitlocker encryption feature, which is currently hard for the average PC user to navigate.

"You have to partition your hard drive and do a bunch of things, and you can only really today protect one drive, whereas many machines have more than one," he said.

Cherry also pointed to a common hardware performance problem many users face because of Vista's "very large footprint." "It's one of the things they might want to address -- hardware utilization and performance," he said. "It's hard to put a big wrapper around that; it just needs to be better."

One Microsoft executive gave a slight hint about what might turn up in Windows 7 earlier this year at the RSA Conference in San Francisco. Ben Fathi, corporate vice president of development with Microsoft's Windows Core Operating System Division, said in an interview that a "fundamental piece of enabling technology," such as a hypervisor or a drastic change in the user interface, would likely turn up in Windows 7.

Fathi also said at RSA in February that Microsoft was in the middle of the planning process for Windows 7's features and would know more over the next few months, which suggests the company now has a good idea what the OS will look like but is declining to disclose that information.

While both a hypervisor and a new user interface are possibilities for Windows 7, the former is almost a given, Gartner's Silver said. "It almost has to go" in the OS, he said, describing the technology as "a really thin OS" that manages virtual machines running on the system.

It would behoove Microsoft to put a hypervisor in Windows 7 because it would give them more control over the hardware the OS runs on, something the company would prefer to have, Silver said.

"The hypervisor really owns the hardware, and Microsoft likes owning the hardware, and they want to be one of the people to standardize [hypervisor technology]," he said.

Vista includes such new features as desktop search and a new user interface, which also are two areas that leave room for expansion in Windows 7, analysts said.

Microsoft has shown the direction it's going with the latter with its Surface computer, introduced in late May. That form factor looks like a coffee table with a touchscreen interface that lets users move photos around by hand and synchronize devices by placing them on the table.

With products like the Apple iPhone making the touchscreen popular with consumers, a touchscreen UI in Windows 7 is a possibility, Silver said. "They don't want to look bad next to Apple," he said.

Desktop search, a new feature built into Vista, also has room for improvement. Microsoft has said it will link desktop search to Windows Server 2008 so desktop users can search not only for local files but also for files on the server. This is a feature that potentially could be built into the desktop OS.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/07/ … ike_1.html
psH
Banned
+217|6857|Sydney
I didn't even know this is happening! Well i think we can all hope that its going to be gamer friendly...id love to see what the whole interface looks like. Good find btw, +1.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7118

Ashlite wrote:

I didn't even know this is happening! Well i think we can all hope that its going to be gamer friendly...id love to see what the whole interface looks like. Good find btw, +1.
thx
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7093|Mhz

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6854|the land of bourbon
M$ security fails...  my prediction is 2010 will will be the same shit u heard about vista (but the worst part????   clippy will return.)
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SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7041|Mountains of NC

mind control or minority report computers

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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6912|King Of The Islands

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
Windows has a 3 year life cycle.

See Windows 95 -> 98 -> ME (2001)
See Windows NT3 (94?) NT4 (96?) -> Windows 2000 (99) -> XP (2002)


The problem of course, is that Windows XP was made good. This is the first time Windows users have asked "Why?" to upgrading, since XP is 'good enough'. Therefore Windows 7 will have to be fantastic.


Longhorn Concept:

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
XBurnerX
Member
+5|7078|MS - US
Great, another half-assed OS that i'll have to learn how to "fix"
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7093|Mhz

Cheez wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
Windows has a 3 year life cycle.

See Windows 95 -> 98 -> ME (2001)
See Windows NT3 (94?) NT4 (96?) -> Windows 2000 (99) -> XP (2002)


The problem of course, is that Windows XP was made good. This is the first time Windows users have asked "Why?" to upgrading, since XP is 'good enough'. Therefore Windows 7 will have to be fantastic.


Longhorn Concept:

True i suppose, I guess I sort of expected Vista to at least try to come slightly close to the success of XP, seems MS don't have the same faith.
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6913|Brisbane, Australia

Cheez wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
Windows has a 3 year life cycle.

See Windows 95 -> 98 -> ME (2001)
See Windows NT3 (94?) NT4 (96?) -> Windows 2000 (99) -> XP (2002)


The problem of course, is that Windows XP was made good. This is the first time Windows users have asked "Why?" to upgrading, since XP is 'good enough'. Therefore Windows 7 will have to be fantastic.


Longhorn Concept:

wow they were expecting a bit much?
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Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7193|Scotland
XP > all
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7118

Airwolf wrote:

XP > all
good point there
Graphic-J
The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J
+196|6599|So Cal
Windows 7...Vista? Nah....I'd still be using me good ol Windows 95,  just upgraded from the Commodore 64! Yey!
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TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
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TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
And Apple replaces theirs about every year or so - but I don't hear any whining from anyone then. Strange, that - don't you think?
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7118

TheDarkRaven wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
And Apple replaces theirs about every year or so - but I don't hear any whining from anyone then. Strange, that - don't you think?
yes very strange it must be because a lot of people rely on Windows so much
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7093|Mhz

TheDarkRaven wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

2010? I guess Microsoft don't expect Vista to do all that well if it's only getting 3 years before it's replaced.
And Apple replaces theirs about every year or so - but I don't hear any whining from anyone then. Strange, that - don't you think?
People who use Apples generally don't know what to complain about, what with not being able to turn their old PC on and all. (that ad quote still makes me laugh).
Shadow893
lel
+75|7166|England

blademaster wrote:

But what the company is not making clear is what new features the OS will have, a topic that has become fodder for educated Windows 7 speculation.
Errr. Vista has basically JUST come out. Of course they won't have any ideas what features it will have at the moment.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6966|N. Ireland
I don't want this thread to turn into a mac vs windows thread, I couldn't bare it! Anyway, I expect it will be totally different. No start bar, very simple usage etc.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7189

leetkyle wrote:

I don't want this thread to turn into a mac vs windows thread, I couldn't bare it! Anyway, I expect it will be totally different. No start bar, very simple usage etc.
No. When we have it too simple, even idiots like Afrika_18 can use the internet.
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